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DrBold241
01-13-2010, 08:24 PM
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this is why i cant stand fundamentally religious people.

Ghost In The 'Lac
01-13-2010, 08:27 PM
tbh with you, i find it hard to relate intellectually with and form of religious people.

DrBold241
01-13-2010, 08:29 PM
i agree. i'm just waiting for prof zooruka to voice his opinion on this.

SKAMPOE
01-14-2010, 03:05 AM
that dude is a fuckin moron. haiti is kept in a third world state by the elite illuminists the powers that be the same mu fuckaz who caused the quake.

diggy
01-14-2010, 03:42 AM
Interesting.

Skamp, check this:

The Haitian Revolution (17911804) is the period of violent conflict in the French colony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonial_empire) of Saint-Domingue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Domingue), leading to the elimination of slavery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery) and the establishment of Haiti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti) as the first republic ruled by blacks. Although hundreds of rebellions occurred during the slave era, only the revolt on Saint-Domingue, beginning in 1791, was successful in permanently abolishing slavery. The Haitian Revolution is the only successful slave revolt in human history, [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Revolution#cite_note-0) and, as such, is regarded as a defining moment in the history of Africans in the new world.



If there is any reason to keep Haiti in "the poorest country in the western hemisphere" status forever, it could be in the quote above. Keeping them in this state is a reminder and warning against all who would like to fight against the oppressor!!!

SKAMPOE
01-14-2010, 03:50 AM
Interesting.

Skamp, check this:





If there is any reason to keep Haiti in "the poorest country in the western hemisphere" status forever, it could be in the quote above. Keeping them in this state is a reminder and warning against all who would like to fight against the oppressor!!!
damn man u see, shit justs keeps gettin deeper, makes me fiend for that other pill cuz i rly dont wanna know how far the rabbit hole goes!

BTTR KNG KOOL
01-14-2010, 07:49 AM
that dude is a fuckin moron. haiti is kept in a third world state by the elite illuminists the powers that be the same mu fuckaz who caused the quake.

What about all the other disasters that have hit Haiti in the past?

food for thought
01-14-2010, 08:05 AM
this dosent surpirse me.

when katrina happened, that cock sucker said New Orleans deserved it because of the sin.

I think he said the same thing about 9/11 which is hilarious because dumb ass people still listen t owhat he has to say


jesus loves him though, bro.

Compulsion
01-14-2010, 09:06 AM
Robertson is a moron. The real sad part is his reasoning has just as much logic as half of the ideas that are thrown around to explain this tragic event. People will do whatever they can to find links to their conspiracy theories and throw innocent people under the bus to justify their thoughts. Takes the focus off of those who suffer, but you are out to help them, right?

Slide
01-14-2010, 09:08 AM
Do you like weed? :)

THE MASON
01-14-2010, 12:31 PM
ignorance at its finest

no one deserves to be hit by natural disasters. now i dont think and dont create or perpetuate conspiracies, so i cant agree with that theory.

shit is just bad luck in the end. and only proves you cant fuck with mother nature, she has the power to build and destroy as she pleases. all we can do is learn from her.

12weLvE
01-14-2010, 12:46 PM
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This Robertson dude is bugged out...

Mr. Muhammad
01-14-2010, 12:55 PM
Salaam!

Although I agree that what Mr. Robertson said (on the face of it) was idiotic, oversimplified, and corrupted with false information...His statement, at the root of it, brings a significant point forward:

Those who subscribe to the notion of an Intelligent, Ultimately Responsible Supreme Being are left to wrestle with certain unavoidable questions:

"If [The Supreme Being] CAUSED this terrible tragedy, WHY?"

"If [The Supreme Being] DID NOT Cause this tragedy, then WHY didn't He PREVENT it?"

RM

Art Vandelay
01-14-2010, 01:22 PM


i'll take this one... it's because there is no supreme being.

by the way, pat robertson saying that haiti made a pact with the devil is a myth. there is a story that says that haiti has a statue of an iron pig representing their pact with the devil. if you do a little research on this, you will find there is no such thing.

so 3 myths pat robertson speaks about...

• the fact that there is a devil
• the face that a pact was made with this so-called devil
• the fact that there is a god

Mr. Muhammad
01-14-2010, 01:35 PM


i'll take this one... it's because there is no supreme being.

by the way, pat robertson saying that haiti made a pact with the devil is a myth. there is a story that says that haiti has a statue of an iron pig representing their pact with the devil. if you do a little research on this, you will find there is no such thing.

so 3 myths pat robertson speaks about...

the fact that there is a devil
the face that a pact was made with this so-called devil
the fact that there is a god

Well, Art...It's clear that you overlooked this part of my post...

Those who subscribe to the notion of an Intelligent, Ultimately Responsible Supreme Being are left to wrestle with certain unavoidable questions...

If you don't subscribe to such a notion, then, those questions were not intended for you...obviously.

RM

Art Vandelay
01-14-2010, 02:05 PM
i just can't believe in 2010 people still believe in a god. seriously, 500 years after proving the world wasn't flat, you would think people would come to the notion that there isn't an invisible man in the sky.

Ghost In The 'Lac
01-14-2010, 02:19 PM
yeah the modern personal god is dumb. its like i cant beleive when i see athletes pray to god to help them win sport event, like how dumb is that? and why would god prevent another person from winning something so that you can?

is that really how you think god would work? little personal favours because he happens to like you more than the next guy? please.

LORD NOSE
01-14-2010, 02:36 PM
yeah the modern personal god is dumb. its like i cant beleive when i see athletes pray to god to help them win sport event, like how dumb is that? and why would god prevent another person from winning something so that you can?

is that really how you think god would work? little personal favours because he happens to like you more than the next guy? please.


never thought about it like this


i guess we are waking up

Art Vandelay
01-14-2010, 02:39 PM
yeah, when kurt warner won the super bowl with the rams, he said it was because he prayed to god and was a good christian. does that mean he hasn't been a good christian the past 10 years? did goc like ben roethlisberger more than kurt warner last year? and what has ben roethlisberger done to fall out of favor with god this year? he didn't even make the playoffs.

instead of having the best athletes on your team, they should just draft the best christians. i bet mother teresa would have made a great left tackle if she were still alive.

Ghost In The 'Lac
01-14-2010, 03:26 PM
instead of having the best athletes on your team, they should just draft the best christians. i bet mother teresa would have made a great left tackle if she were still alive.

lol

but asking god to take something away from someone else, who wants it just as much as you do, is just as good a person as you are, and may even be just as 'good' of a christian aswell, you expect god to make this happen.

what sort of god is that?

and why does god give a shit about you winning some sport event when theres over a billion people without good water to drink living in extreme poverty, why isnt god answering all their prayers? poor people are usually the most religious.

Olive Oil Goombah
01-14-2010, 03:41 PM
Diggy...

The Mamluk empire of egypt was basically an empire run by former slaves.


So your 'wikipedia' information was a bit scewed when it said, the 'only successful slave revolt in human history'......actually VERY skewed.

Art Vandelay
01-14-2010, 04:28 PM
by the way, i had kurt warner on my fantasy football team this year and didn't even make the playoffs. although, maybe that has something to do with my team being named the Christ Punchers

ALCATRAZ
01-14-2010, 04:43 PM
i'm not too worried ... he's really old which means he'll probably be dead soon ... not that i'm wishing death on any man, but i can see that the deaths of those type of people can only mean good things for the younger generation

diggy
01-14-2010, 11:16 PM
Diggy...

The Mamluk empire of egypt was basically an empire run by former slaves.


So your 'wikipedia' information was a bit scewed when it said, the 'only successful slave revolt in human history'......actually VERY skewed.

Your Mamluk empire statement does not support your point.

Try again please.

SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS
01-15-2010, 12:14 AM
pat robertson just showed the world he's another michael savage that he's a stupid motherfucker

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LORD NOSE
01-15-2010, 12:33 AM
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I like this ^

zooruka
01-15-2010, 01:55 AM
I don`t agree with pat robinson`s comments....I don`t like it when people use God and punishment as a reason for a tragic event...however saying that God does punish people and nations for there disobediance... but Im not sure he does that anymore now that Jesus has come....having said that God loves people and doesn`t take pleasure in hurting people ... I believe most of if not 99% of all natural disasters and problems that occure to humanity are caused by the devil.



peace be with you !

ALCATRAZ
01-15-2010, 03:19 AM
peace be with haiti

Jammaj
01-15-2010, 08:56 AM
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Krusha
01-15-2010, 09:14 AM
what a fuckin idiot!

-IrOnBuLL-
01-15-2010, 09:16 AM
i wonder wat would some FOX NEWZ niggaz hav to say bout this lol

wait a minute, im more anticipated on what CNN hav to say
(thei'll grill both pat n rush)

Uncle Steezo
01-15-2010, 12:25 PM
God answers ALL prayers.
its just that we don't know how to take NO for an answer.

People pray expecting an answer in the form of a voice from heaven.
The Universe(God) communicates through events.


my new mantra:
"I am a perfect being in a perfect universe. Everything that happens to me is for my benefit. The universe benefits me because i am am part of it."



basically, "events" are just that, EVENTS. GOOD or BAD is just the perspective i view them from.

we can choose to be happy or upset about anything. its our choice.

LORD NOSE
01-15-2010, 12:40 PM
like when precious was being raped by her father - she envisioned herself in a better place - it's not reality, nor will it stop her from being raped - but the visions she had, helped her to cope with being raped - nothing good came out of the rape either - she ended up pregnant and with aids -

but i guess that can be looked at as a good situation - depends on who is looking and how sick minded they are

Art Vandelay
01-15-2010, 01:01 PM
I don`t agree with pat robinson`s comments....I don`t like it when people use God and punishment as a reason for a tragic event...however saying that God does punish people and nations for there disobediance... but Im not sure he does that anymore now that Jesus has come....having said that God loves people and doesn`t take pleasure in hurting people ... I believe most of if not 99% of all natural disasters and problems that occure to humanity are caused by the devil.



peace be with you !


you are no different than pat robertson. you are telling us why god does things.

Uncle Steezo
01-15-2010, 01:20 PM
like when precious was being raped by her father - she envisioned herself in a better place - it's not reality, nor will it stop her from being raped - but the visions she had, helped her to cope with being raped - nothing good came out of the rape either - she ended up pregnant and with aids -

but i guess that can be looked at as a good situation - depends on who is looking and how sick minded they are

its not a real story but we can pretend.

so for one, though its a work of fiction, her story probably helped a gang of women who were victims of abuse, self loathing and poverty.

in the story she has two kids who were not infected. maybe they are destined for something, who knows.

without that trauma, can we be sure that precious would be as dedicated to bettering herself?

universal communication(events) aim to teach you something or connect you to someone. but they are all for your benefit. because you are part of it. the universe is consciousness and the universe is perfect.

the universe does not wish to destroy itself.

LORD NOSE
01-15-2010, 08:28 PM
understood


so wickedness is here for our good

TheBoarzHeadBoy
01-16-2010, 02:41 PM
Victory would not taste as sweet if not for the bitterness of failure.

We define by comparison. The feeling of Happiness is hollow if there is no depression to differentiate them.

We must have bad to have good. A perfect world can not exist for everyone.

I also disagree with the concept of God punishing people. God is described as a universal omnipotent omnipresent, omniscient force. God does not punish people. The universe is a series of events, who benefits and who suffers is irrelevant to our universal God. We are just one person of countless civilizations in human history, one of countless inhabited planets in the galaxy one of countless galaxies within the expanding universe, one of countless universes in reality.

God is a callous entity whose cruelty and kindness are immeasurable. He care less about us then we care about the individual cells in our bodies. We have trillions of identical cells, we don't even notice their tiny lives and deaths. God is scattered much more thinly across an infinite number of things. God cares as much about the grains of sand you stand on as he does you.

And that's presuming there is a God.

SKAMPOE
01-17-2010, 01:33 AM
http://www.wehaitians.com/explosion_haiti.jpg
http://im.rediff.com/money/2009/oct/01money5.jpg

LORD NOSE
01-17-2010, 02:46 AM
God answers ALL prayers.
its just that we don't know how to take NO for an answer.

People pray expecting an answer in the form of a voice from heaven.
The Universe(God) communicates through events.


my new mantra:
"I am a perfect being in a perfect universe. Everything that happens to me is for my benefit. The universe benefits me because i am am part of it."



basically, "events" are just that, EVENTS. GOOD or BAD is just the perspective i view them from.

we can choose to be happy or upset about anything. its our choice.

greatness ^


how easy is it for you to maintain the power to dictate the outcome of your walk =

being balanced and not fighting the current will make your walk light and powerful

what can get in the way to stop that harmony ?

nothing - if you ride the current and dictate the outcome of those events

and we can also always submit in peace to the effects of an event too powerful for us to dictate

ZigZag
01-17-2010, 08:20 AM
I think dude was on to something but worded it wrong. I dont think haiti was deserving of what happened to them...cuz america would be more deserving and we probably long over due. BUT I will say they caused this to happen. You get out this universe what u put in....u put all that negative energy in, (voodoo curses, praying to d evils, robbing killing missionaries, selling kids as slaves and/or using them for child sacrafices) and this is the results u get.

Anybody noticed that two of the worst natural disaters happened in two of the worlds most known places for "the craft" New Orleans and Port du Prince?

DrBold241
01-17-2010, 05:20 PM
I think dude was on to something but worded it wrong. I dont think haiti was deserving of what happened to them...cuz america would be more deserving and we probably long over due. BUT I will say they caused this to happen. You get out this universe what u put in....u put all that negative energy in, (voodoo curses, praying to d evils, robbing killing missionaries, selling kids as slaves and/or using them for child sacrafices) and this is the results u get.



so basically you're reasoning is negativity ONLY comes from negativity?
so if a little girl is raped by her father it's HER fault?
you are on the side of mr.robinson? do you believe in god?
if you do, to what extent? do you consider yourself a moderate or a fundamentalist?

and are you seriously justifying a NATURAL disaster to be caused by man?
that sounds like some evil genius shit...... thus is fundamentalism.

karma is just as full of shit as monotheism.
be good, just for the sake of better yourself. not so you'll get shit in return.
mankind has nearly unlimited potential if you choose to pursue it.

Come Honor Face
01-17-2010, 05:26 PM
Would someone kindly shoot this old fuck? "The Devil said ok it's a deal" LMAO!!

DrBold241
01-17-2010, 05:43 PM
i can see that the deaths of those type of people can only mean good things for the younger generation

unfortunately a lot of these older religious (generally conservative) folks are pretty set in their ways and aren't open to tolerance and modernism. so yes, does seem like we'll have to wait for the older generation to die off and for the younger generation to get involved.
doing my part pursuing a political science major.