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tostones
10-02-2005, 11:49 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/logo1.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/logo2.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/logo3.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/logo4.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/logo5.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/logo6.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/logo7.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/logo8.jpg

tostones
10-02-2005, 11:49 PM
pretty easy right?

how many do you logos do you know?

tostones
10-02-2005, 11:52 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/tree1.jpg


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/plant2.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/plant3.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/plant4.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/plant5.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/plant6.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/plant7.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b330/tostones/plant8.jpg

and now?

7EL7
10-03-2005, 12:30 AM
What is this about

Bloo
10-03-2005, 12:36 AM
I can see where he's going with this.

Man-made vs. God-made

Which are we more familiar with as human beings.

You recognize all those logos for what they are exactily. But you only see tree, or flowers. Can call them out by name like you can the logos.

Os3y3ris
10-03-2005, 01:46 AM
Its an interesting exercise, but a misleading one. I'm more familiar with those corporate logos than with those plants, yet I can identify, root and grow things which I find interesting. The one's listed are simply irrelevant to me.

SubtleEnergies
10-03-2005, 08:27 AM
That's scary I only didn't know one logo. I dont get the tree connection but it shows how heavily bombarded we are with advertising.

Prince Rai
10-03-2005, 11:08 AM
when you live in the city .. its hard to see trees and notice them with full effect.. when im hungry where do i go..? when i need to call some1 who do i call and with what??
and when i need somethjing where do i buy it??


when i need a break.. i can consider tress and plants.. but who will grant me a break??


ask somebody who lives in the woods, he will be mo known to nature than the logos we see..


its about our adaptation..

i would fear myself if i didnt had the opportunity to enquire about nature..

i have books definitely somewhere..

Born Ruler I
10-03-2005, 12:55 PM
The marketing of preprocessed and synthetic goods displaces that which naturally surrounds us.

Just one example of the matrix.

One

Golden_Armz
10-03-2005, 01:26 PM
Thats interesting, i was eating a Crab the other day (well i was tastin it i wasnt really feeling smashing a crab up and eating it) anyways i was amazed at how detailed the Crabs body and inside is, and its mechanism for legs and how everything fits in perfectly, i thought All Praises Due to God, cos there is no explanation for perfect nature, but a Master Creator.....it was a reminder for me....look at natures design, and look at ours - it will make you laugh. Peace & Reflect!

tostones
10-04-2005, 12:25 AM
Its an interesting exercise, but a misleading one. I'm more familiar with those corporate logos than with those plants, yet I can identify, root and grow things which I find interesting. The one's listed are simply irrelevant to me.
Peace O,

Can you answer the question though.. How many corporate logos do you think you could readily identify? Compare that with how many plants you could readily identify.

Most people today recognize fewer than 10-20 plants but over 1000 corporate logos.

Many cannot tell you the name of the trees on their own city block.

Trust me, the ones listed are not irrevelant to you. I would bet you eat several regularly.

How is it misleading?

peace

tostones
10-04-2005, 12:35 AM
Peace Subtle Energies,

That's scary I only didn't know one logo. I dont get the tree connection but it shows how heavily bombarded we are with advertising.
Bombarded to the point of shell shock. The "tree connection" or plants was just one of many possible examples. Served to reinforce how previously public resources, developed through the sweat and hard work of countless generations throug time, have been manipulated to be forgotten in favor of "brand name" or logo-based consumption.


Peace Born Ruler I,

The marketing of preprocessed and synthetic goods displaces that which naturally surrounds us. Just one example of the matrix.
One
True indeed. The modern marketing propoganda is just a facet of the monster's face, built on the branded religious environment tools of the past, and grown ever present.

peace

Visionz
10-04-2005, 12:44 AM
not to mention fed to humans at a younger and younger age. I've seen little blow--up McDonald play-pens for two year olds, plastic burger and everything. the level advertising will stoop to is disgusting.

Born Ruler I
10-04-2005, 08:58 AM
What does logos mean?

Look it up.

One

Kephrem
10-05-2005, 02:44 AM
It means word, speech, or discourse. This is why we "log on" to the internet; to read, get information, etc.

SlightlySlightedFan
10-05-2005, 03:54 AM
There is explanation to the order of biological product. Or as we'd better refer to it as life. It's called evolution. A series of random occurances, mixed with a large series of mutations. The mutations are result of a biological need to adapt to our surroundings. I'm not an expert on Evolution. I just refuse to be branded a creation of someone else's. I think it's the kid and the ant farm example that I take issue with. Regardless of what you believe, you should realize that millions of people have worked hard, over thousands of years at convincing you that a christian god exists. Sometimes working in ways that seemed mysterious to those being worked over at the time, IE Crusades, Spanish Inquisution. To convince you that without this wonderfully simple product you will burn forever in hell. Seems like the case of The Other Guy. You know the guy that doesn't use whatever product would make his life simpler and more manageable.
Do you wanna live forever in heaven? Sure we all do.
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Visionz
10-05-2005, 06:41 AM
^might as well keep packing those chinese kids into the sweat shops.....i'm going to need all this modern convienence I can get ^O^

Born Ruler I
10-05-2005, 09:03 AM
Logos

A principle originating in classical Greek thought which refers to a universal divine reason, immanent (http://www.wutangcorp.com/theogloss/imman-body.html) in nature, yet transcending all oppositions and imperfections in the cosmos (http://www.wutangcorp.com/physgloss/cosmos-body.html) and humanity. An eternal and unchanging truth present from the time of creation, available to every individual who seeks it. A unifying and liberating revelatory force which reconciles the human with the divine; manifested in the world as an act of God's love in the form of the Christ.

Logos - Longer definition: The Greek word logos (traditionally meaning word, thought, principle, or speech) has been used among both philosophers and theologians. In most of its usages, logos is marked by two main distinctions - the first dealing with human reason (the rationality in the human mind which seeks to attain universal understanding and harmony), the second with universal intelligence (the universal ruling force governing and revealing through the cosmos to humankind, i.e., the Divine).

The Greek philosopher Heraclitus appears to be the first to have used the word logos to refer to a rational divine intelligence, which today is sometimes referred to in scientific discourse as the "mind of God." The early Greek philosophical tradition known as Stoicism (http://www.wutangcorp.com/gengloss/stoic-body.html), which held that every human participates in a universal and divinely ordained community, then used the Logos doctrine as a principle for human law and morality. The Stoics believed that to achieve freedom, happiness, and meaning one should attune one's life to the wisdom of God's will, manifest in the second distinction (above) of Logos. The Christian church then extended the Stoic idea of the universal community by claiming the universal nature of salvation and the potential for all humans to participate in it.

In the New Testament, the phrase "Word (Logos) of God," found in John 1:1 and elsewhere, shows God's desire and ability to "speak" to the human. The Christian expression of this communication is evidenced in the Christ, who is the "Word become flesh." In these three biblical words, Christianity points to the possibility of union between the human and the divine, or the personal and the absolute. God's logos, which the Christ represents, acts as a bridge between the human's inner spiritual needs and the answer proclaimed by the Christian message.

So logos are created to be worshipped...

One

num2son
10-05-2005, 09:10 AM
That's scary I only didn't know one logo. I dont get the tree connection but it shows how heavily bombarded we are with advertising.
Yeah.

num2son
10-05-2005, 09:12 AM
Man do I miss getting in touch with my nature side.

tostones
10-06-2005, 12:27 AM
Peace Born Ruler I,

Very interesting read.

I was reading not too long ago an article in which the author compared modern day corporate logos with the demonic seals of medieval grimoires. Corporate "entities" as incorporeal beings, like a god which dedicated followers serve for life. Logos functioning as sigils.

And, of course, the sigil holds power. Back when Philip Morris purchased Kraft they paid many times over what the corporation was worth on paper, demonstrating the power of the trademarked logo.

It does get deep the deeper you look. One could argue one of the first organizations to use branding was the christian church, complete with cross logo in the town square. Corporate branding counselors admit the connection.

So swamped in it, people hardly notice a vast majority of it. Like you wrote, just another of the matrix.

Peace

Born Ruler I
10-06-2005, 08:44 AM
And the Bible was the first mass produced book, so it, too became part of the 'branding' along with the cross 'logo.'

True indeed, Tostones.

One

KBA7
10-20-2005, 04:03 PM
Damn this world is crazy. Has any1 ever felt a weird uneasy feeling when passing thru a street riddled w/ logos.

tostones
10-24-2005, 03:38 PM
Damn this world is crazy. Has any1 ever felt a weird uneasy feeling when passing thru a street riddled w/ logos.
Peace KBA7

They are effective in their designs. At times, I have also become aware of a similar feeling.

Peace

Ghost In The 'Lac
10-24-2005, 03:45 PM
Peace Born Ruler I,

Very interesting read.

I was reading not too long ago an article in which the author compared modern day corporate logos with the demonic seals of medieval grimoires. Corporate "entities" as incorporeal beings, like a god which dedicated followers serve for life. Logos functioning as sigils.

And, of course, the sigil holds power. Back when Philip Morris purchased Kraft they paid many times over what the corporation was worth on paper, demonstrating the power of the trademarked logo.

It does get deep the deeper you look. One could argue one of the first organizations to use branding was the christian church, complete with cross logo in the town square. Corporate branding counselors admit the connection.

So swamped in it, people hardly notice a vast majority of it. Like you wrote, just another of the matrix.

Peace
You have a logo in your own user pic. The W.

tostones
10-24-2005, 03:49 PM
true.

It would appear that Wu-tang has understood the use of logos since the beginning.

peace

blazindaherbz
11-11-2005, 12:25 AM
that shits crazy i guess thats why i post up propaganda

tostones
11-12-2005, 04:44 PM
peace

thank you for bringing this thread back up, as I never did post the plant answers for those that may be interested. they were as follows:

1. Elm tree
2. Foxglove
3. Oak tree
4. Potato plant
5. Rice field
6. Birch tree
7. Sugar
8. Mint

I take it that the corporate logos answers are totally unecessary.

peace