New York And New Jersey Will Always Have The Best Rappers

[CharlesJones]

There was a article in this month's XXL magazine talking about why did New York rappers fall off? Basically the article is saying New York rappers haven't been doing good music in a long time. I haven't read the article but if i did, i would probably disagree with most of the comments. New York rappers have gone back to doing street mixtapes and that's good because the mixtapes are better than the albums anyway LOL. A lot of New York rappers are doing the independent thing now and that's a good thing. They aren't fucking with the major labels like they used to. Just because New York rappers aren't selling a lot of records doesn't mean their skills have gotten bad. If there was a mc battle between New York and New Jersey rappers against the west or against the south, i would put my money on New York and Jersey rappers. The thing i love about New York and Jersey rappers is that they're mc's and they like being lyrical. Rappers from the west and the south don't understand that and they never will. Some rappers from the west like New York rappers like The Alkaholics, Ras Kass, Xzibit, Ice T, Ice Cube, MC Eiht, Spice 1, Too Short, Kurupt, Snoop Dogg.



So the westcoast does show some love to New York rappers but i don't think New York rappers are respected in the south and i know New York rappers could care less cause i know they don't like a lot of southern rappers. And they probably blame the south rappers for fucking up rap music LOL. Geto Boys, 8Ball and MJG, Goodie Mob are probably the only south rappers that New York rappers show respect to.

[11th Chamber]

. Geto Boys, 8Ball and MJG, Goodie Mob are probably the only south rappers that New York rappers show respect to.

What is this 1996?

[Hollow Dartz]

New York>Philly>Jersey as of right now I think they are the top 3 east coast states

[snapple]

i think you hit the nail on the head. the tri-state has it's own culture. we do our own thing. a lot of stuff thats big over here people down south and out west probably never even heard.

I love the west and south. every region brings something different to the table. but as far as rapping in itself goes, id have to agree, nobody is fucking with us.

i feel like chicago is slept on though. Chicago gets it.

right now the south is whats "big" and thats cool. but things move in cycles. who knows whats next.

[GhettoGnom]

New York rappers have gone back to doing street mixtapes and that's good because the mixtapes are better than the albums anyway LOL.
LOL.

I feel sorry for you, you must have real shitty taste in music, you poor little thing :(


What is this 1996?
Hahah..
like The Alkaholics, Ras Kass, Xzibit, Ice T, Ice Cube, MC Eiht, Spice 1, Too Short, Kurupt, Snoop Dogg.
obviously :lmao:

[prof zooruka]

Yeah n.y is where its @....


I think thats because n.y is a major international city and therefore the youth are more cultured, So intern are exposed to a wide variety of potential subject matter for rap songs, also the kids in n.y seem to grow up faster mentally.


Nas is the perfect example of the points I just made.



peace be with you !

[Aldo the Apache]

New York is hip hop

[Edgar Erebus]

Rotten apple is rotten.
(c) J. Noir

[KLAP]

I agree but you can't forget about PHILLY! Black Thought,Cassidy, Beanie Sigel, Bahamadia, Reef the lost cauze, Vinnie Paz, Young Chirs, Peedi Crakk, Cool C, SchoollyD, Malik B., Last Emp, etc

[ALCATRAZ]

when include jersey in this thread? cali has way better rappers than fuckin jersey lol

[prof zooruka]

when include jersey in this thread? cali has way better rappers than fuckin jersey lol


^^^

Isn`t canibus from Jersey ?????


peace be with you !

[ALCATRAZ]

even if he is, who else is there.... i know there are emcees in jersey but i feel as though the threadstarter included jersey just because its close to new york...imo texas has better emcees than jersey

[BIG D O]

lol, it really is sad to see how badly NY's sound fell off....very few of the new artists out that way uphold that true boom bap sound....they chase the southern "bounce" sound or try to do poppy sounding dance music...SMH....

Meanwhile the underground L.A. and Detroit scenes have taken what NY started back in the 90's and built upon it and at the same time reeled in all of NY's old fans....

sigh....we'll always have "Enta Da Stage", "Return Of The Boom Bap", "36 Chambers", "3 Feet High And Rising", "Ready To Die", "Word...Life", "Livin' Proof", "The Awakening", "Daily Operation", "Legal Drug Money", "4,5,6", "Station Identification" and so many other classics...

[Frank Sobotka]

cool story bro

[CharlesJones]

LOL@Alcatraz saying Cali and Texas have better rappers than New Jersey hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Keep dreaming. New Jersey has a lot of tight rappers such as Queen Latifah, The Outsidaz, Redman, Lords Of The Underground, Channel Live, Das EFX, Naughty By Nature, Artifacts. Isn't Rah Digga from Jersey? Yeah Canibus is from Jersey and he'll slaughter every rapper in Cali and Texas by himself hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[CharlesJones]

Heather B and Lady Luck are also from Jersey. It's too bad Lady Luck could never get a album out because she got skills.

[ALCATRAZ]

CharlesJones do you really want me to go down the list of Cali rappers that shit on Jersey's entire existence? Cuz u know I will LOLOLOLOLOL

[CharlesJones]

Please name them so i can laugh at you LOL. Canibus will shit on every rapper in Cali in a mc battle except Ras Kass.

[Dominus Santorini]

Zoorucka hit the nail on the head

[iammzac]

detroit bitch

[CharlesJones]

Detroit and Philadelphia rappers aren't fucking with New York and New Jersey rappers either.

[Mic Tyson]

LOL@Alcatraz saying Cali and Texas have better rappers than New Jersey hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Keep dreaming. New Jersey has a lot of tight rappers such as Queen Latifah, The Outsidaz, Redman, Lords Of The Underground, Channel Live, Das EFX, Naughty By Nature, Artifacts. Isn't Rah Digga from Jersey? Yeah Canibus is from Jersey and he'll slaughter every rapper in Cali and Texas by himself hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Queen Latifah? Lady Luck? Rah Digga? Fuck them dyke bitches west coast would destroy Jersey rappers.

Pac
Ras Kass
Ice Cube
MC Eiht/CMW
Kurupt
Snoop
Holocaust when he wasn't on drugs

LOL hardly any of them niggas u said even rap anymore hahahahahahah

you are stuck in the 90's nigga

And i don't even think Canibus is from Jersey

[GhettoGnom]

LOL@Alcatraz saying Cali and Texas have better rappers than New Jersey hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Keep dreaming. New Jersey has a lot of tight rappers such as Queen Latifah, The Outsidaz, Redman, Lords Of The Underground, Channel Live, Das EFX, Naughty By Nature, Artifacts. Isn't Rah Digga from Jersey? Yeah Canibus is from Jersey and he'll slaughter every rapper in Cali and Texas by himself hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Redman is the only one of those still slightly relevant. 11th really hit the nail on the head with the '96 comment.

[CharlesJones]

I can't help it i'm stuck in the 90's. It's not my fault that rap hasn't been good since the 90's LOL. I'm not gonna argue with y'all about this. You got your opinion and i got mine but those westcoast rappers you named aren't fucking with New York and Jersey rappers. Don't sleep on the female rappers i named from Jersey and don't think just because Latifah went hollywood that she can't rap anymore. She's better than some male rappers LOL. So what if the rappers i named aren't rapping anymore. It would look stupid to still be rapping in your 40's anyway LOL. Y'all fucking clowns talking about rap music shouldn't have a age limit when they're supposed to stop rapping. Just because rock singers, r&b singers, country singers can still sing when they're in their 40's, 50's, 60's doesn't mean it's ok for rappers to rap when they're that age because it's not cool to be that old and still rapping.

[Hollow Dartz]

Philadelphia rappers aren't fucking with New York and New Jersey rappers either.
False.

[LORD NOSE]

There was a article in this month's XXL magazine talking about why did New York rappers fall off? Basically the article is saying New York rappers haven't been doing good music in a long time. I haven't read the article but if i did, i would probably disagree with most of the comments. New York rappers have gone back to doing street mixtapes and that's good because the mixtapes are better than the albums anyway LOL. A lot of New York rappers are doing the independent thing now and that's a good thing. They aren't fucking with the major labels like they used to. Just because New York rappers aren't selling a lot of records doesn't mean their skills have gotten bad. If there was a mc battle between New York and New Jersey rappers against the west or against the south, i would put my money on New York and Jersey rappers. The thing i love about New York and Jersey rappers is that they're mc's and they like being lyrical. Rappers from the west and the south don't understand that and they never will. Some rappers from the west like New York rappers like The Alkaholics, Ras Kass, Xzibit, Ice T, Ice Cube, MC Eiht, Spice 1, Too Short, Kurupt, Snoop Dogg.



So the westcoast does show some love to New York rappers but i don't think New York rappers are respected in the south and i know New York rappers could care less cause i know they don't like a lot of southern rappers. And they probably blame the south rappers for fucking up rap music LOL. Geto Boys, 8Ball and MJG, Goodie Mob are probably the only south rappers that New York rappers show respect to.


this thing called Hip Hop is too large to break it up like this


you can find an MC down south that'll roast a NY rapper alive

you can go to germany and find MCs who are more skilled than a NJ rapper

i personally know BX MCs who conformed to what the industry wants and they are now wack - there are allot of BX NY MCs that i know who are mad wack - i know a couple of MCs out here in LA that's Mad nice, and i've heard a myriad of nice MCs out here

[BLACK BART SIMPSON]

There was a article in this month's XXL magazine talking about why did New York rappers fall off? Basically the article is saying New York rappers haven't been doing good music in a long time. I haven't read the article but if i did, i would probably disagree with most of the comments. New York rappers have gone back to doing street mixtapes and that's good because the mixtapes are better than the albums anyway LOL. A lot of New York rappers are doing the independent thing now and that's a good thing. They aren't fucking with the major labels like they used to. Just because New York rappers aren't selling a lot of records doesn't mean their skills have gotten bad. If there was a mc battle between New York and New Jersey rappers against the west or against the south, i would put my money on New York and Jersey rappers. The thing i love about New York and Jersey rappers is that they're mc's and they like being lyrical. Rappers from the west and the south don't understand that and they never will. Some rappers from the west like New York rappers like The Alkaholics, Ras Kass, Xzibit, Ice T, Ice Cube, MC Eiht, Spice 1, Too Short, Kurupt, Snoop Dogg.



So the westcoast does show some love to New York rappers but i don't think New York rappers are respected in the south and i know New York rappers could care less cause i know they don't like a lot of southern rappers. And they probably blame the south rappers for fucking up rap music LOL. Geto Boys, 8Ball and MJG, Goodie Mob are probably the only south rappers that New York rappers show respect to.

yea i peepd the article too...it was abt there relevancy(prob not a word) NOT their skill level...i think its the beef problem.. but then XXL kind of brought something up tht makes complete sense too how the big name rappers in NY dont put on new tristate niggas..og's in the south r always putting on new talent AND puttin them in the lime light...if/when ny og's put on new ny cats they dont market them right...

BUT the next NY rapper that is definetly goin to b in the lime light is french montana...he's got nice smooth bars nd still makes some shit u cud heaaar in the club nd sum great shit too blaze too if ur in the tri-state uve DEFINETLY heard of him..or else ur prob a fag...he also was in tht XXL issue he said some shit tht was featured in the article
i.e.
Club banga
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RIdin music -which also has sum new jersey niggas on it (skyy high)
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shit too smoke too
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wait what???
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and he got songs wit sum legends (also made the auto tune sound good)
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[KBOS]

SMH, some of you faggots live in a small ass world. You niggaz are missing out on some key shit here. The whole music industry is different now, if you havent noticed, almost no good music is selling big these days. Its bigger then hip-hop, its a national phenomenon. Good rap music has come out of every corner of this country its some ignorant shit to point fingers. Do you niggaz think its a coincidence that as more and more free music was downloaded more and more shit mainstream music became? Now to sell in the mainstream you have to be a very specific niche - it doesnt matter if a nigga came out like redman in 010, the nigga wouldn't sell. The culture and times have changed and this current shit isnt cultivating many next gen greats.

[BLACK BART SIMPSON]

SMH, some of you faggots live in a small ass world. You niggaz are missing out on some key shit here. The whole music industry is different now, if you havent noticed, almost no good music is selling big these days. Its bigger then hip-hop, its a national phenomenon. Good rap music has come out of every corner of this country its some ignorant shit to point fingers. Do you niggaz think its a coincidence that as more and more free music was downloaded more and more shit mainstream music became? Now to sell in the mainstream you have to be a very specific niche - it doesnt matter if a nigga came out like redman in 010, the nigga wouldn't sell. The culture and times have changed and this current shit isnt cultivating many next gen greats.

shows are the only way a rapper can actually get money now a days...

[KLAP]

False.

I gotta second that.... So false... Philly has some of the sickest mc's.... and is a talentpool 4real!

Black Thought, Cassidy, Beanie Sigel, Reefthelostcauze, Bahamadia, Peedi Crakk, Journalist, Malik B, EVE, Ms Jade, Young Chirs, Reign Man, E-ness, EST, Cool C, Schooly D, Freshgro and Miz, Tuff Crew, Vinnie Paz, Planetary, Joey Jihad, Reed Dollaz, Meek Mill, Oschino, etc...

[P-Noid Brown]

^^^ klap u aint never lied..

Honestly though if you look in the history books.

New jersey always had potent hip-hop. We have had many dominant figures in the hip-hop game. Jersey doesn't get the recognition we deserve today as we did back in the day. Jersey always had the most dangerous emcees, with the pen and in person. Often imitated and always duplicated.

But defintiely do the HISTORY.... Jersey = the MOST DANGEROUS emcees.

[cap]

^^^ klap u aint never lied..

Honestly though if you look in the history books.

New jersey always had potent hip-hop. We have had many dominant figures in the hip-hop game. Jersey doesn't get the recognition we deserve today as we did back in the day. Jersey always had the most dangerous emcees, with the pen and in person. Often imitated and always duplicated.

But defintiely do the HISTORY.... Jersey = the MOST DANGEROUS emcees.

school me on jersey.

who they got besides:

joe budden
redman
naughty by nature
ransom
...

[fatboybrandon]

cap, check out Chino XL, The Artifacts, Akai Pros, Jamal & Malik of Illegal (were better as teens in 92 than many current MCs) and Lords of The Underground if you haven't already. I think Apache might be from Jersey too, he had plenty skills.

[cap]

^^ ok i will.

[iLLscan]

All this Jersey talk & not one mention of Poor Righteous Teachers? On the production side you can throw Just Blaze & The 45 King in the conversation.

[BLACK BART SIMPSON]

I gotta second that.... So false... Philly has some of the sickest mc's.... and is a talentpool 4real!

Black Thought, Cassidy, Beanie Sigel, Reefthelostcauze, Bahamadia, Peedi Crakk, Journalist, Malik B, EVE, Ms Jade, Young Chirs, Reign Man, E-ness, EST, Cool C, Schooly D, Freshgro and Miz, Tuff Crew, Vinnie Paz, Planetary, Joey Jihad, Reed Dollaz, Meek Mill, Oschino, etc...

half them niggas u named are battle rappers on smack...niggas is nice but most of em aint makin a hit (cass is my nigga tho)

[BLACK BART SIMPSON]

school me on jersey.

who they got besides:

joe budden
redman
naughty by nature
ransom
...

skyy high signed to french montana's label
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Arsonal and L.O.D
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[CharlesJones]

Fatboybrandon, Illegal aren't from Jersey. Malik is from Atlanta or Cali i think and Jamal is from Philadelphia.

[CHRONZ]

the south got some dope ass rappers/mc's. dont even front.
NY & NJ got "some" of the best, but not all.

[11th Chamber]

What people gotta realize, a large factor of New York being percieved as having the best MC's is that like in the early 90's unless u were from New York, no one was gonna hear your shit.

Im sure there was a sick producer in Chicago or some shit that was just as dope as Premo, but being that he didnt get the exposure he could have if he was in New York, no one would have never known.


For every one dope act that got exposure in Texas or Detroit, 30 got exposure in New York. So of course New York is gonna get the label of having the best MC's

[SID]

The east coast will always have the best rappers.

NY has a special vibe that you cannot recreate, anywhere else in the world.

[BLACK BART SIMPSON]

including england

[Hollow Dartz]

half them niggas u named are battle rappers on smack...niggas is nice but most of em aint makin a hit (cass is my nigga tho)
Nigga it's only 5 outta the 25 rappers he named were battle rappers on dvd's...

[BLACK BART SIMPSON]

eve, cassidy , beanie nd black thought only 1's ive rly listend to besides the battle rappers

[Dirty Knowledge]

BUT the next NY rapper that is definetly goin to b in the lime light is french montana...

Welcome 2 tha frenchie show...

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def. think French can run with it if he stays on this level of vibe and if he does that real life shit.

i agree with CJ that NY has the best rappers, but you can't sleep on your Cali, memphis, texas, atlanta rappers that have put work in, if we're talkin historically.

[SID]

including england

London has it's own vibe also, dubstep, grime, jungle, garage etc etc

[CharlesJones]

To the person who said Chicago has some good rappers, i disagree. Common and Da Brat are the only rappers from Chicago i like. I used to like Common before his bitch ass became soft after Resurrection album hahahahahahahahaha.

[snapple]

Jersey right now has so many good up and coming spitters....they probably will have no mainstream sucess but who gives a shit...

[ricky]

how can anyone here forget lauryn hill?

[Longbongcilvaringz]

I bet Charles thinks Outkast are bad.

[CharlesJones]

Outkast does suck. I only like their first album.