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blackwisdom
10-05-2005, 08:34 PM
EXPLOSIVE RESIDUE FOUND ON FAILED LEVEE DEBRIS!
Ruptured New Orleans Levee had help failing
By: Hal Turner September 9, 2005 3:36 PM EDT

NOTE: This story has been UPDATED as of Saturday, September 10, 2005 @ 11:40 PM EDT The updated info is incorporated into the story and appears in bold type

SECOND UPDATE: Monday Sept. 12, 2005 @ 8:23 AM ABC News Video with Ear Witness to Explosions and states emphatically "They blew this levee" Click the link below the story

New Orleans, LA -- Divers inspecting the ruptured levee walls surrounding New Orleans found something that piqued their interest: Burn marks on underwater debris chunks from the broken levee wall!

One diver, a member of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, saw the burn marks and knew immediately what caused them. When he surfaced and showed the evidence to his superior, the on-site Coordinator for FEMA stepped-in and said "You are not here to conduct an investigation as to why this rupture occurred, but only to determine how best to close it." The FEMA coordinator then threw the evidence back into the water and said "You will tell no one about this."

At that point, the diver went back down to do more inspection of the levee. On the second dive, he secreted a small chunk of the debris inside his wet suit and later arranged for it to be sent to trusted military friends at a The U.S. Army Forensic Laboratory at Fort Gillem, Georgia for testing.

According to well placed sources, a military forensic specialist determined the burn marks on the cement chunks did, in fact, come from high explosives. The source, speaking on condition of anonymity said "We found traces of boron-enhanced fluoronitramino explosives as well as PBXN-111 embedded in the debris. This would indicate at least two separate types of explosive devices."

The levee ruptures in New Orleans did not take place during Hurricane Katrina, but rather a day after the hurricane struck. Several residents of New Orleans and many Emergency Workers reported hearing what sounded like large, muffled explosions from the area of the levee, but those were initially discounted as gas explosions from homes with leaking gas lines.

If these allegations prove true, the ruptured levee which flooded New Orleans was a deliberate act of mass destruction perpetrated by someone with access to military-grade UNDERWATER high explosives.

More details as they become available . . . . .

Click Here to Watch the ABC NEWS Video (http://www.halturnershow.com/EarWitnessVideo.html)

SPECIAL UPDATE FOR "COUNTER-PUNCH" READERS (September 14, 2005)
Counterpunch writer Manuel Garcia, Jr opines (http://www.counterpunch.org/garcia09142005.html) on this story about how a storm surge could be solely responsible for this levee failure, but is factually incorrect in his analysis.

Yes, a storm surge occurs as a hurricane approaches land, bringing water in from the sea. The water builds up on itself and floods land as the hurricane comes ashore. But only as it comes ashore. Once the rear part of the eye wall comes ashore, the winds blow in the OPPOSITE direction, thus sending water away from the land.

Hurricanes swirl counter-clockwise. The top right side of the hurricane is throwing water inward toward land, the left side of the eye is going in the OPPOSITE direction. So for Mr. Garcia to argue that the storm surge was "delayed" (for the 24 hour difference between landfall and levee failure) is simply impossible.

Mr. Garcia then goes on to state "This pressure would work to both strain the levees -- like a membrane being stretched -- and to infuse water through pores and cracks in the solid (earthen) material.

The portion of the levee that failed was not earthen. It was 40' long steel I-beams, pounded deep into the earth by a pile driver and surrounded at the top by steel reinforced concrete! The portion of levee that failed was steel and concrete, not earth!

I don't know about any of you, but I've never seen steel and concrete stretch "like a membrane." In fact, the ABC New video which is part of this story, shows the steel and concrete. Concrete is twisted, ripped and shattered. Hardly the effect of water.

Had Mr. Garcia talked to me before posting his story on counter-punch, I could have pointed these things out. Now, you'll all just have to watch the video and see it for yourselves. -- Hal Turner 9-14-05 5:40 PM

TeknicelStylez
10-05-2005, 10:47 PM
I give them about a week, before they pin this on some A-Rab and we're caught up hunting Osama Bin Ladens son, than we decide to invade Iran.

living_undead
10-05-2005, 10:51 PM
I give them about a week, before they pin this on some A-Rab and we're caught up hunting Osama Bin Ladens son, than we decide to invade Iran.or Venezuela...

TeknicelStylez
10-05-2005, 11:02 PM
Shhh the CIA is watchin KTL

Os3y3ris
10-05-2005, 11:33 PM
EAR WITNESS??? Right...

Kephrem
10-05-2005, 11:39 PM
It's not far fetched seeing how they reported that NO avoided a direct hit, and it wasn't until a short time later that the levees by chance gave way.

Wooly Noggins
10-06-2005, 02:52 AM
yup

the Minister was saying that there was a 25 foot crater under where the leevee was

Kephrem
10-06-2005, 03:19 AM
When did Farrakhan say that??

Wooly Noggins
10-06-2005, 03:36 AM
When did Farrakhan say that??
check this thread Black put up

http://wutangcorp.com/showthread.php?t=9744


here is the direct link to him speaking

http://www.millionsmoremovement.com...mmm-message.htm (http://www.millionsmoremovement.com/news/mmm-message.htm)

Ghost In The 'Lac
10-06-2005, 04:20 AM
hold on ive got some other news story link about weather manipulation.....

Ghost In The 'Lac
10-06-2005, 04:23 AM
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/4502.asp

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/4278.asp

Born Ruler I
10-06-2005, 08:47 AM
HAARP, plus a barge in the 9th ward, plus witnesses hearing explosions, plus the delay between the rain and the breaking of the levee, plus the history-1927 deliberate flooding of Black areas along the Mississippi which instigated the Great Migration, plus gentrification....

a whole lot....

One

TeknicelStylez
10-06-2005, 08:59 AM
Take your fuckin head out your ass, this shit has nothing to do about race. Sure it helps that the majority of that area was black, but it's about refineries and the property value of the land. They could give 10 fucks who it was living there.

Born Ruler I
10-06-2005, 10:11 AM
Umm, what happened in 1927 was based on race you dumb fuck.

Nowhere in my statement did I mention race being tied to Katrina.

Ignorant mutherfucker.

One

blackwisdom
10-06-2005, 10:22 AM
GhostLaced, are there any books or references that I can lay my hands on. I want to really study this.

Take it easy
Peace

soul controller
10-06-2005, 12:16 PM
check mah thrread on katrina..
i was saying this time ago!

main stream media has only just caught on, as too many peoples was aware of this
and they choppin the story to pieces, thye gone put a twist on it.

enjoy :)

Born Ruler I
10-06-2005, 12:18 PM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/090905levees.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/090905levees.htm)

Dynamite? History repeating itself?

Many locals have come forward to suggest that the levees were breached on purpose by the authorities. Resident Andrea Garland, now re-located to Texas, wrote in her blog:

"Also heard that part of the reason our house flooded is they dynamited part of the levee after the first section broke - they did this to prevent Uptown (the rich part of town) from being flooded.

Apparently they used too much dynamite, thus flooding part of the Bywater. So now I know who is responsible for flooding my house - not Katrina, but our government."

This scenario is not so crazy as it sounds, in fact this exact thing has happened before in the same city. In 1927, the Mississippi River broke its banks in 145 places, depositing water at depths of up to 30ft over 27,000 square miles of land.

The disaster changed American society, shifting hundreds of thousands of delta-dwelling blacks into northern cities and cementing the divisions and suspicions that benign neglect has ensured remain today.

New Orleans’ (mainly white) business class pressurized the state to dynamite a levee upstream, releasing water into (mainly black) areas of the delta. Black workers were forced to work on flood relief at gunpoint, like slaves.

This information is covered in depth in a book by John M. Barry entitled Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and how it Changed America, 1997 which has incidentally become heavily in demand after Katrina.

Furthermore, levees were also intentionally broke after Hurricane Betsy struck New Orleans in 1965, admittedly with less of an impact. The tactic of breaking the dikes is not uncommon, as this CNN report on China's flood plains highlights.

Engineers have now punched holes in several levees in parts of New Orleans where flood levels were higher than the water in drainage canals leading to Pontchartrain, in order to let water flow out.

Explosions?

There were reports of many explosions heard in New Orleans, officials say they were transformers blowing up. Total Information Analysis has reported a claim by intelligence expert Tom Heneghen that 25 earwitnesses cited explosions immediately before the levee breach.

Similar reports are now appearing in many web blogs:

"He also mentioned that right before the mass flood there was a loud sound like an explosion." - News from St. Bernard

"I'll tell you the worst thing I've heard and I heard it from my mother. She said she heard several blasts - big booms - right before the levees broke. Several blasts and then all the water came pouring in." - aangirfan

Although these are obviously not authoritative sources of information, it is interesting to note how many local people are reporting this. So interesting in fact that the mainstream has picked up on it in places.

The Washington Post reported on the comments of a retired school teacher:

"Mullen has a schoolteacher's kindly demeanor, so it was jarring to hear him say he suspected that the levee breaks had somehow been engineered to keep the wealthy French Quarter and Garden District dry at the expense of poor black neighborhoods like the Lower Ninth Ward -- a suspicion I heard from many other black survivors."

The Globe and Mail is also carrying a similar story.

ABC World News Tonight carried a report which contained an interview with a local, who described how a floating barge had rammed the levee. The man seemed convinced that the levee was purposefully broken. A transcript of which has appeared on the net:

David Muir: “Was it solely the water that broke the levee? Or was it the force of this barge that now sits where homes once did? Joe Edwards says neither. People are so bitter, so disenfranchised in this neighborhood, they actually think the city did it, blowing up the levee to save richer neighborhoods, like the French Quarter.”

Muir to Edwards as they stand on a bridge: “So you're convinced-”

Edwards: “I knows it happened.”

Muir: “-that they broke the levee on purpose?”

Edwards: “They blew it.”


The mysterious barge story has also been reported by many other local residents. "The evacuees who witnessed the barge striking the levee also want to know why the major media is not covering this story."

The London Observer carried an intriguing story of a man named Correll Williams, a 19-year-old meat cutter. The article states that:

"Williams only left his apartment after the authorities took the decision to flood his district in an apparent attempt to sluice out some of the water that had submerged a neighbouring district.

Like hundreds of others he had heard the news of the decision to flood his district on the radio. The authorities had given people in the district until 5pm on Tuesday to get out - after that they would open the floodgates."

Some final intriguing footage reveals a journalist questioning former President Bill Clinton as to why many locals feel that the levees were purposefully broken.

This was during the press conference with Clinton and George Bush Snr announcing their combined "relief effort" for New Orleans. Ignore the first 15 minutes of sickening joking and backslapping between the two and skip to the last minute of footage.

Upon hearing the question Clinton appears to be surprised and then simply walks off.

Click here to view the footage:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm)

Click here to listen to an MP3 of the last 30 seconds:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905governmentsabotage.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905governmentsabotage.htm)

TeknicelStylez
10-07-2005, 08:09 PM
Umm, what happened in 1927 was based on race you dumb fuck.

Nowhere in my statement did I mention race being tied to Katrina.

Ignorant mutherfucker.

OneOh so I'm supposed to believe that you stating what happened in 1927's motives isn't in direct relation to Katrina.

Because thats what I got from your statement.

Piss ant

blackwisdom
10-08-2005, 10:04 AM
http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/090905levees.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/090905levees.htm)

Dynamite? History repeating itself?

Many locals have come forward to suggest that the levees were breached on purpose by the authorities. Resident Andrea Garland, now re-located to Texas, wrote in her blog:

"Also heard that part of the reason our house flooded is they dynamited part of the levee after the first section broke - they did this to prevent Uptown (the rich part of town) from being flooded.

Apparently they used too much dynamite, thus flooding part of the Bywater. So now I know who is responsible for flooding my house - not Katrina, but our government."

This scenario is not so crazy as it sounds, in fact this exact thing has happened before in the same city. In 1927, the Mississippi River broke its banks in 145 places, depositing water at depths of up to 30ft over 27,000 square miles of land.

The disaster changed American society, shifting hundreds of thousands of delta-dwelling blacks into northern cities and cementing the divisions and suspicions that benign neglect has ensured remain today.

New Orleans’ (mainly white) business class pressurized the state to dynamite a levee upstream, releasing water into (mainly black) areas of the delta. Black workers were forced to work on flood relief at gunpoint, like slaves.

This information is covered in depth in a book by John M. Barry entitled Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and how it Changed America, 1997 which has incidentally become heavily in demand after Katrina.

Furthermore, levees were also intentionally broke after Hurricane Betsy struck New Orleans in 1965, admittedly with less of an impact. The tactic of breaking the dikes is not uncommon, as this CNN report on China's flood plains highlights.

Engineers have now punched holes in several levees in parts of New Orleans where flood levels were higher than the water in drainage canals leading to Pontchartrain, in order to let water flow out.

Explosions?

There were reports of many explosions heard in New Orleans, officials say they were transformers blowing up. Total Information Analysis has reported a claim by intelligence expert Tom Heneghen that 25 earwitnesses cited explosions immediately before the levee breach.

Similar reports are now appearing in many web blogs:

"He also mentioned that right before the mass flood there was a loud sound like an explosion." - News from St. Bernard

"I'll tell you the worst thing I've heard and I heard it from my mother. She said she heard several blasts - big booms - right before the levees broke. Several blasts and then all the water came pouring in." - aangirfan

Although these are obviously not authoritative sources of information, it is interesting to note how many local people are reporting this. So interesting in fact that the mainstream has picked up on it in places.

The Washington Post reported on the comments of a retired school teacher:

"Mullen has a schoolteacher's kindly demeanor, so it was jarring to hear him say he suspected that the levee breaks had somehow been engineered to keep the wealthy French Quarter and Garden District dry at the expense of poor black neighborhoods like the Lower Ninth Ward -- a suspicion I heard from many other black survivors."

The Globe and Mail is also carrying a similar story.

ABC World News Tonight carried a report which contained an interview with a local, who described how a floating barge had rammed the levee. The man seemed convinced that the levee was purposefully broken. A transcript of which has appeared on the net:

David Muir: “Was it solely the water that broke the levee? Or was it the force of this barge that now sits where homes once did? Joe Edwards says neither. People are so bitter, so disenfranchised in this neighborhood, they actually think the city did it, blowing up the levee to save richer neighborhoods, like the French Quarter.”

Muir to Edwards as they stand on a bridge: “So you're convinced-”

Edwards: “I knows it happened.”

Muir: “-that they broke the levee on purpose?”

Edwards: “They blew it.”


The mysterious barge story has also been reported by many other local residents. "The evacuees who witnessed the barge striking the levee also want to know why the major media is not covering this story."

The London Observer carried an intriguing story of a man named Correll Williams, a 19-year-old meat cutter. The article states that:

"Williams only left his apartment after the authorities took the decision to flood his district in an apparent attempt to sluice out some of the water that had submerged a neighbouring district.

Like hundreds of others he had heard the news of the decision to flood his district on the radio. The authorities had given people in the district until 5pm on Tuesday to get out - after that they would open the floodgates."

Some final intriguing footage reveals a journalist questioning former President Bill Clinton as to why many locals feel that the levees were purposefully broken.

This was during the press conference with Clinton and George Bush Snr announcing their combined "relief effort" for New Orleans. Ignore the first 15 minutes of sickening joking and backslapping between the two and skip to the last minute of footage.

Upon hearing the question Clinton appears to be surprised and then simply walks off.

Click here to view the footage:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905femasabotaging.htm)

Click here to listen to an MP3 of the last 30 seconds:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905governmentsabotage.htm

Very (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/060905governmentsabotage.htm) interesting, thank you. I would elaborate, but I gotta feed my lil man.

Take it easy
Peace

TeknicelStylez
10-08-2005, 11:16 AM
Ok now I want you to research how many, white and hispanic or any other nationalities died in that flood.

Kephrem
10-08-2005, 06:17 PM
The powers that be don't care about black, hispanic, or poor white.

7EL7
10-08-2005, 06:43 PM
The Tsunami was caused by explosives too proberly

Born Ruler I
10-10-2005, 09:40 AM
Ok now I want you to research how many, white and hispanic or any other nationalities died in that flood.

In 1927? You must be joking....

Hispanics? Whites? Do you not know the history of LA and its demographics?

One

Born Ruler I
10-12-2005, 08:43 AM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20051012/sbo051012.gif

One