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Drunken Monk
05-26-2010, 07:11 PM
HEIL ALLAH!!!


LOL

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spiggity_ace
05-26-2010, 07:21 PM
Lol!

diggy
05-26-2010, 10:05 PM
Funny how 'the mufti' does not have a name; he is just 'the mufti'.

Funny how 'the mufti' appears brighter in the light than hitler does at 25 secs.

Funny how if this really happened, which I doubt, It was never mentioned until now when there is a growing hatred for Arabs and Muslims.

Funny.

TheBoarzHeadBoy
05-26-2010, 10:22 PM
This is common knowledge. The SS was chock full of foreigners sworn to Hitler. The Arab Muslims were preferred in the camps because they hated Jews and their religion made the whole genocide thing okay. Just like in Armenia when they starved the Christians to death...

diggy
05-26-2010, 11:05 PM
Uhh...no it is not common knowledge. Whenever the holocaust was mentioned previous to 9-11, Arabs were NEVER brought up in the discussion.

Maybe you don't know something about germany at that time - it is said that the country needed to be wiped clean of any people who were not pure...a certain type of white man was prefered - a blonde haired fair skin german. Any who did not fit the discription of an Aryan was eliminated including jews, retards, cripples, and any who were not full blooded Aryan.

Now you wanna say Arabs were invited and allied with Hitler?

It does not fit.

I've been here for more than 30 yrs and your version of history was never taught in any of my classes nor on any tv channel.

This Arab/hitler ally thing is pure post 9-11 anti arab/muslim propaganda.

Hellspawn
05-27-2010, 04:40 AM
hahahahahaha one of the best propaganda video I've ever seen. Beware of the Mufti !

I've looked for "Mufti" on wikipedia and no results, bizarre !!!

diggy
05-28-2010, 11:01 PM
ya, pure propaganda.

Drunken Monk
05-29-2010, 06:05 AM
lol

netscape check two
05-29-2010, 10:44 PM
It's funny when some people believe just about any type of conspiracy theory out there, but when it's something to do with their own religion, they think that there is no way it could be real. lol

diggy
05-29-2010, 10:47 PM
Exactly who are you talking about and why don't you show and prove it with some quotes?

Olive Oil Goombah
05-29-2010, 11:51 PM
HE'S talking about you you fucking sociopath.


This make perfect sense, and if it is being used as propoganda because of recent Arab hatred, it still does not mean that it did not happen. Which it obviously did.

TheBoarzHeadBoy
05-29-2010, 11:56 PM
Is it really that hard to believe that Chechnyan and Balkan Muslims didn't serve with the SS against the Russians?

From Wiki (not the best source, but I don't feel like searching around)

The Chechens again rose up against Soviet rule during the 1940s, resulting in the deportation of the entire ethnic Chechen and Ingush populations to the Kazakh SSR (later Kazakhstan) and Siberia[citation needed] in 1944 near the end of World War II.[13][14] Stalin and others argued this was punishment to the Chechens for providing assistance to the German forces. Although the German front never made it to the border of Chechnya, an active guerrilla movement threatened to undermine the Soviet defenses of the Caucasus (noted writer Valentin Pikul claims that while the city of Grozny was preparing for a siege in 1942, all of the air bombers stationed on the Caucasian front had to be re-directed towards quelling the Chechen insurrection instead of fighting Germans at the siege of Stalingrad). Chechen-Ingushetia was abolished and the Chechens were allowed to return to their "own ethnic land" after 1956 during de-Stalinization under Nikita Khrushchev.

This never came up because it wasn't a major factor. People were more concerned with what happened then the ethnicity of the people who did it. I don't think it says anything about Islam unless you deny that there were a group of Muslims serving in the SS (which was largely made up of non Germans FYI.) You can either say it happened and denounce it or say it didn't happen or say it happened and you support it, but you have to choose.

Haj Amin el-Husseini, The Grand Mufti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

diggy
05-30-2010, 01:01 AM
Is it really that hard to believe that Chechnyan and Balkan Muslims didn't serve with the SS against the Russians?

From Wiki (not the best source, but I don't feel like searching around)

The Chechens again rose up against Soviet rule during the 1940s, resulting in the deportation of the entire ethnic Chechen and Ingush populations to the Kazakh SSR (later Kazakhstan) and Siberia[citation needed] in 1944 near the end of World War II.[13][14] Stalin and others argued this was punishment to the Chechens for providing assistance to the German forces. Although the German front never made it to the border of Chechnya, an active guerrilla movement threatened to undermine the Soviet defenses of the Caucasus (noted writer Valentin Pikul claims that while the city of Grozny was preparing for a siege in 1942, all of the air bombers stationed on the Caucasian front had to be re-directed towards quelling the Chechen insurrection instead of fighting Germans at the siege of Stalingrad). Chechen-Ingushetia was abolished and the Chechens were allowed to return to their "own ethnic land" after 1956 during de-Stalinization under Nikita Khrushchev.

This never came up because it wasn't a major factor. People were more concerned with what happened then the ethnicity of the people who did it. I don't think it says anything about Islam unless you deny that there were a group of Muslims serving in the SS (which was largely made up of non Germans FYI.) You can either say it happened and denounce it or say it didn't happen or say it happened and you support it, but you have to choose.

Haj Amin el-Husseini, The Grand Mufti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni

You say they were serving (as if they were trained soldiers) in the SS when the quote says they were only providing assistance. Assistance and serving is not the same thing. This assistance could be anything from info to clothes or whatever.


You also said they were sworn to Hitler (re-read your initial posts). I don't see how providing assistance to soldiers equals being sworn to their leader and his racist ideas. You don't even know, if this is true, why they did what they did!!! Maybe thay had to chose a side out of fear of being persecuted, killed, or their property taken. Again, you don't know the reason.

And that man 'the mufti' if he existed was never brought up in history class probably cuz he played no real lasting role in whatever hitler was doing. Also, how does the mufti meeting hitler equal the 'SS being chock full of foreigners'? THis was never brought up in history class either, probably cuz it's not true.

The thing about Arab Muslims being prefered in the camps has no historical basis unless ya wanna grab some history books and show me quotes (IF YOU CAN)!!!!!!!!!!!

BLACK BART SIMPSON
05-30-2010, 01:12 AM
or it waas never brought up cuz illuminaaati dnt wnt u 2 know

Dr. Simon Hurt
05-31-2010, 01:26 PM
interesting.

but i think the fact that so little has been made of it until recently, when ww2 is probably the most extensively documented war ever, especially in mainstream media, is revealing.

there are also documented instances of zionist collaboration with the nazi's as well, so I'm not sure what people are trying to prove here other than that corrupt leadership will put self-preservation ahead of the long term safety of their people.

but i forgot, muslims are inherently savage and evil people, right?


During the Second World War, the main non-Zionist organization in Europe was the Socialist Bund. Although equipped with few resources, it did the most to publicize the Holocaust and seek support for Jewish resistance in Europe. On the other hand, the World Zionist Organization (WZO) was an international organization with a large intelligence network. Specifically, it was the only Jewish international organization which had liaison offices inside Nazi Europe. It had direct organizational links with Zionist groups throughout Europe and direct access to and political influence with the Allied powers. It was also involved in arms smuggling and financial operations, but this vast apparatus, which then had illegal armed forces in Palestine, was not used to publicize the Holocaust or support beleaguered ghetto fighters or aiding rescue activities. It was accused of covering up the crimes of the Nazi regime until the Allied powers decided to publicize it, not assisting Jewish resistance groups, and not making attempt to rescue the bulk of European Jewry.
The Zionists did not lead the resistance in the ghetto, these activities were generally led by Bundists and Communists. Jews organized resistance movements and took part in partisan warfare throughout occupied Europe - usually under Communist leadership, often under direct command of the Soviet Red Army. These groups made a substantial contribution to the Allied war effort. It should be said as well, that many Zionists had no choice but to fight back against the Nazis, and some fought bravely in ghetto rebellions and partisan warfare. But in the Warsaw ghetto, where their contribution was greatest, the majority of fighters were either Communist, Bundist or unaffiliated. Furthermore, although many left-wing Zionists and Revisionists made a substantial contribution to the Warsaw ghetto rebellion in 1943, the first target of the resistance fighters was often other Zionists, who were leaders of the Nazi sponsored Judenrat, the hated ghetto police and the Jewish Gestapo. This included Dr. Alfred Nossig, who was shot by the Warsaw ghetto fighters as a Gestapo agent.
Generally, it has been argued that whatever the role some Zionists played in the resistance activities, the plain fact is that they got little or no support from the WZO, whose leadership was too busy demanding unrestricted immigration to Palestine and the establishment of a Jewish Army in the country. Furthermore, the Zionists were engaged in an armed struggle against the British mandate in Palestine, where they maintained a very efficient clandestine armed force throughout the war. They carried out the assassination of the British Minister Lord Moyne in Cairo in November 1944. They had extensive arms smuggling operations which substantially depleted British armories and forced the diversion of British troops away from the battlefront to guard duty in Palestine. The arms stolen by the Zionists were not for use against the Nazis, but were to be used against the British army and the Arab population.
One advocate of not helping the Jews of Europe was the Zionist leader Yitzhak Greenbaum, whose son was described in Nazi-Zionist Collaboration once as a "exceptionally notorious" Kapo (Jewish policeman) at Auschwitz. Greenbaum was Rudolf Kasztner's (http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/kasztner.htm) immediate superior in the Jewish Agency, as head of the Rescue Committee for European Jewry, and later became a cabinet minister in Israel's first Government in 1948. In a speech given in Palestine in 1943, he indicated that buying land from the Arab population of Palestine was more important than rescuing Jews in Europe, and, as he admitted after the war, he had even called for less to be said about the extermination of the Jews, so as not to distract attention from buying land in Palestine. It is a shocking indictment of Zionism and its wartime leaders.

Olive Oil Goombah
05-31-2010, 07:35 PM
Oh ok...someone says something you don't like, so you scapegoat the Jews....

how liberal of you...

Dr. Simon Hurt
05-31-2010, 09:43 PM
Oh ok...someone says something you don't like, so you scapegoat the Jews....

how liberal of you...
lmfao...typical tooch.

how am i scapegoating the jews? if i'm 'scapegoating the jews', wouldn't that make this whole topic 'scapegoating muslims'?

did you bother to read my post or just see 'zionist' and hastily write a response?

can you actually engage in an intelligent discussion without falling back on lame retorts and insults?

feel free to answer any or all of those questions, or dust off another thoughtless response that contributes nothing to the discussion. it's up to you.

Dr. Simon Hurt
05-31-2010, 09:49 PM
i also guess pointing out that american businesses collaborated with the nazis means i'm scapegoating americans, and not just pointing out that a variety of nations and organizations also worked with 'der furher' out of a perverse and short-sighted sense of self interest.

i've grown to pity you, tooch.

TheBoarzHeadBoy
05-31-2010, 11:21 PM
Exactly. I'll admit that the Americans were very shady in terms of dealing with both sides until pearl harbor because that's true, just like Muslims aided the Nazis. It's a war. There are no clear heroes and villains. There were good Germans (who resisted the holocaust) and Bad Americans (who looked the other way with Japanese, Italian, and German Americans), Good Muslims(who aided the British) and Bad Jews (who profited from the conflict). Hell, somehow Stalin ended up on our side for God's sake. It's person to person, but this is an interesting part of the story. A Palestinian leader who aided Hitler by working with an all Muslim military/paramilitary force against the allies.

diggy
05-31-2010, 11:50 PM
A Palestinian leader who aided Hitler by working with an all Muslim military/paramilitary force against the allies.

Sources please...

* I doubt you even have any considering the fact you made statements before this without them*

TheBoarzHeadBoy
06-01-2010, 10:32 PM
I saw this on TV a while back. I'm not going to say that means it's true, but it's reasonably reliable. It was on the history channel, and they worship Hitler on there, so I'm sure it's not false statements.

Jamal Arief
09-23-2010, 10:22 AM
Uhh...no it is not common knowledge. Whenever the holocaust was mentioned previous to 9-11, Arabs were NEVER brought up in the discussion.

Maybe you don't know something about germany at that time - it is said that the country needed to be wiped clean of any people who were not pure...a certain type of white man was prefered - a blonde haired fair skin german. Any who did not fit the discription of an Aryan was eliminated including jews, retards, cripples, and any who were not full blooded Aryan.

Now you wanna say Arabs were invited and allied with Hitler?

It does not fit.

I've been here for more than 30 yrs and your version of history was never taught in any of my classes nor on any tv channel.

This Arab/hitler ally thing is pure post 9-11 anti arab/muslim propaganda.

if you check the history of aryans (as far as it is "known"), you will realize that a couple of thousand years ago they separated and migrated to europe, india and iran (in fact the name iran comes from aryan).
and iran is largely inhabited by muslims.
the blond hair, blue eyes phenotype as a symbol for pureness was strongly propagated in germany, but hitler's screwed up ideology was by no means that simple and also changed over time.

i'm not saying that whatever in the video is said (i didn't watch it) is correct. but your view is certainly simplistic!
a lot of things happened during those years, and certainly there are many issues that are not documented well, or even not at all. and even the many things that are documented are not always widely known or appreciated. after all, the level of detail in a normal school curriculum as well as on TV is generally low.

Peace.

Edgar Erebus
09-23-2010, 11:27 AM
Uhh...no it is not common knowledge. Whenever the holocaust was mentioned previous to 9-11, Arabs were NEVER brought up in the discussion.

Maybe you don't know something about germany at that time - it is said that the country needed to be wiped clean of any people who were not pure...a certain type of white man was prefered - a blonde haired fair skin german. Any who did not fit the discription of an Aryan was eliminated including jews, retards, cripples, and any who were not full blooded Aryan.

Now you wanna say Arabs were invited and allied with Hitler?

It does not fit.

I've been here for more than 30 yrs and your version of history was never taught in any of my classes nor on any tv channel.

This Arab/hitler ally thing is pure post 9-11 anti arab/muslim propaganda.

http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=5803
http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=5804

mikhail213
10-17-2010, 07:12 PM
http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=5803 DOP APORT

SL33
10-18-2010, 04:46 PM
this is common knowledge. there were muslim SS troops all over the place, especially in the balkans and russian front.

Shogah
10-19-2010, 04:48 PM
During WW2 in Bosnia was formed one of the first non-german SS division, which was consisted of Muslims.