Eminem - "Recovery"

[DJ Deoseyus]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/48/RecoveryCoverOfficial.jpg
1. Cold Wind Blows
2. Talkin' 2 Myself (feat. Kobe)
3. On Fire
4. Won't Back Down (feat. Pink)
5. W.T.P.
6. Going Through Changes
7. Not Afraid
8. Seduction
9. No Love (feat. Lil Wayne)
10. Space Bound
11. Cinderella Man
12. 25 to Life
13. So Bad
14. Almost Famous
15. Love the Way You Lie (feat. Rihanna)
16. You're Never Over
17. Untitled
iTunes Bonus Tracks:
18. Ridaz
19. Session One (feat. Slaughterhouse)

This leaked last night, so don't say I'm posting it too early.

[DJ Deoseyus]

I haven't finished listening to the album yet, but so far it is banging with the mediocre beats. My only dissatisfaction is that he didn't work with his usual posse of D12, Shady artists, or Dr. Dre.

[AliJack]

Ight... i'm typin this as i'm listening...im not trynna talk about the theme of each song.. just the general vibe i get, and also im
just giving my first impression...(i'm more biased toward gritty raps so if my opinion switches up dependin on each track thats why...)
i'll come towards this shit as unbiased as possible. I'll put up the sum of the rating of each track then a separate rating
for the entire album, my opinion on it, etc.


Cold Wind Blows:
singin starts off the track in the most homosexual way possible... worst way to start an eminem album... what the fucks this?!?!?!?!?!
ight all of a sudden shit switched up.. beat improved...sounds dope as fuck...and im feelin the opposite as what i just did....
singin in the back is slightly annoying... rapping starts and yes niiggas... eminem is back. I'm feelin this shit..
the vibe im gettin from the beat is some nice slightly dark vibe, nice shit on here.. Hook is slightly corny but
it gives a nice vibe so i'm feeling it..second verse and one of the first things you notice is eminem is on his punchgame
..son sounds like he got a new pair of boxing gloves..gotta say i'm feelin this track, if the entire album is like this
i'm feelin it!!!! good start to the album

4/5

Talkin' 2 Myself:
Starts off strong, Kobe got a real nice voice i gotta say... feelin the kobe hook..FUCK EMINEM...came in with the singing.. fuck that..
nice beginnin to the rapping..good flow structure...almost dissed lil wayne? shit made me laugh actually, collabs with him nowadays..
im feelin this track also, its not a classic at all, but im feelin it... hook is really strong i have to say, second time around and it still feels fresh..
and the Em section of it... another second verse of self exposure... i like it, the facts exposed here that couldn't be found
by any of these stans years of searchin etc.., by the time the 3rd verse kicks in im automatically sense its the strongest one..
Keep ya heads up haha, nice, nice, i can dig this shit.

4/5


On Fire:
songs starts nice... some comments aimed at critics..alright some scathingness in here... im really likin this off the bat
viciousness, slightly weaker than usual, but he replaces that for lyricism, nuthin wrong with that.. The "on fire" sounds weak as fuck volume wise,
and callin it a weakass hook is no excuse but i understand where he comin from... this is a track i'll have in circulation, good shit.
again this track has a couple punches that would entice a cassidy fan into coppin' this shit...

4/5

Won't Back Down:
Get the fuck outta here...20 seconds in and im hating this... PINK got an ight voice... nowhere near as bad as i expected.. but i aint feelin this track as much as most...
beat aint shit..but the lyrics are alright. more punch rhymes..
digged the Donkey with parkinsons line so thats a bonus .5 i gotta say!!!!!!!!

3.5/5

W.T.P.:
Beat starts off with some nice kicks and drums... feelin the beat... slightly annoyin hook...puts a soft touch on his voice but im feelin these lyrics/beat...
hook comes in and i aint feelin it again!!!! eminem, stop motherfucken singin!!!!!!!! second verse starts off on an encore/re-up era tone
to me... then he picks up again later on... once again Fuck the hook!!!!!.. this track feels too Encore/Re-Up era to me, so can't say im feelin it!!!
that junk in the trunk line was corny as fuck, and the track just puts the image of rednecks dancin around in a barn to me... no thanks!!!!

2.75/5

Going Through Changes:
Beat starts off on a really soulful sample, im feelin emotion in the lyrics, the flow got a slight choppy effect, good description for it
the hook is strange, in the background type shit...ight, i get it, songs about changes?.. cool, cool.. I'm feelin this track
sad effect to it, im feelin it...eminem had to fuckin sing again didnt he, well, its just another new em fad
...this is a personal track, good shit...strange revalation on the Kim shit i gotta say.. not somethin i'll be bumpin too often but its
a nice track either way, just not my thing i guess

3.75/5

Not Afraid:
First single, not big enough to me, feels too generic, wack boi 1da beat, southern beats suck ass... i miss the G-Funk south..
flow is almost generic, but his lyrics are nice... more punches again, i like them, but they ARE getting old, not as much energy in them.
as his SSLP days. hook is bullshit, bridge is fuckin sickening... second verse is better than the first...its an alright track for a club one

3.75/5

Seduction:
Beat starts on some trance/T-Pain type love track to me, not somethin id expect from Em.. lets see whats up..
Alright, I can't decide if I like this verse or not, but i got nothin against bitch tracks, and im not despisin this
hook so i aint hatin on em for this one... its an alright track.. the hook is one of the better points here..\
I like this track, nothin too bad to say about it other than it bein nothin extraordinary, its nice shit...

4/5

(Up to now i cant decide if im dissappointed that nothin came up to the caliber of the Despicable, or if i overhyped that freestyle and
its so similar to this that its nothing special...)


No Love:
another calmin begginin, im liking this shit.. what a sample.. am i listenin to this?
lil wayne starts off... one of his better verses, but not amazin..im happy its bringin somethin new to the album..
needed another voice rappin...but he coulda had a better feature but eh..Hook... fuck eminem..faggit coulda put wayne there
atleast goddamnit..Eminem's verse starts off slow.. goes crazy later on.. nice shit.. slightly takes me back to Forever
its an okay track.. again i'll have to rate this track

3.75/5 (eminem seems to be takin an extremely radio friendly approach to his tracks... not a good move, music quality wise)

Space Bound:
track starts and eminem kicks into rapping almost as soon as the instrumental does.. Love track?.. sounds like a love/lust type thing
nice flow he has... slightly repetitive but his lyrics are nice... he picks up until the hook, the hook aint too bad to a casual music listener
but for the hardcore rap fans (like myself) it dont offer much, like the entire album...
(so far im thinkin this entire album is an acquired taste... no for everybody.. its for the music lovers...unlike the rap lovers)
but i gotta say this is a good track.. can't hate on it alot..minus eminems singing.. his motherfucking singin..

another 3.75/5... this shit makes me seem biased as fuck, but im approachin this with an open mind..(well, as open minded as hardcore rap gets)

Cinderella Man:
This is one of the better tracks so far!!! minus the repeated "Cinderella Man" shit, the lyrics grabbin me, this is one of the tracks i'll be repeating again..
hypocrite motherfucker hates on relapse... next week he'll be shittin on this album...but I like this track, i gotta admit, this is a good one.

4/5

25 To Life:
Confirmed that this album is for the more casual music listeners... This singin aint for me...
Lost love theme im sensin on this, alright, third love themed track so far?.. cool, cool..
the energy put into this is astounding though, i gotta say, here is an ability eminem has over his peers..
he puts extreme energy into his music, it would peter out another rapper to go as hard, delivery-wise.
The subject matter aint all that, lyrics pass by uneventfully it seems to me.. the singin got old the first time it came by....
by the second chorus i just want to switch tracks..

3/5

So Bad:
Starts off well, the horns give the track a slight playful vibe i gotta say ... sounds like a relapse 2 track!!!!
one of the better moments on this album in my opinion again.. the hook pisses me the fuck off again...eminem aint a singin cat..
it has a slight brag rap theme to it.can't hate on this, minus hook AGAIN...
bridge also annoys, but the vibe of this track makes up for it.. i like this track, as refill sounding as it is....

4/5

(by now ive given up hope on finding a real stand-out track.. i'm not feelin anythin on this album too bad.. its not a bad album at all, but its nowhere near the classic that most are hypin it up to be...
in a couple weeks the reviews will change and most likely look closer and more similar to mine if not worse...)

Almost Famous:
Starts off like it could be the track to fulfill my wish!!!! sounds different.. not close to anythin i heard so far!!!...then he sings and some chick does too and i feel fuckin stomped upon...
please let the fuckin verses fix this...his first verse is DOPE!!!!! the Roethlisberger(fuck that faggits name anyway) line been reused? its eminem, so to most Stanz here i guess thats all forgiven!!!!!
the singin seriously makes me sick... fuck this bitch and her puke voice....verse comes back and its another real nice verse... i dont know what to think of this...beat started on the track buildin up so well but by now
it just sounds similar to some of the other beats...but the lyrics and energy make up for it i guess

4/5

Love The Way You Lie:
I was one of the few not expectin any bad from Rihannas voice.. she aint dissappoint.. can't hate on her voice its real soulful...
so Rihanna's doin well so far.. wonder how Em gonna do..
puttin more energy into his delivery...sounds like another love track?!?!?!?!?!!! Em what the fuck has rap done to your ass!!!!!!!!!
the beat is more radio shit i gotta say...the second verse reminds me of When I'm Gone plus Not Afraid...fucks up with you em?

3.5/5 for rihannas singin and how the beat accompanies her voice, and the Energy eminem was puttin into his verse.

You're Never Over:
Not Afraid type singin from the jump off... hate this already... lets see what comes up for us...
Proof dedication im seein, alright good, but aint you do this on Elevator or somethin em?. cool, cool...
his quick flow gets slightly interesting at the end of the first verse but thats all i guess...
this track is nothin special again... Nice gesture towards Proof, but it ain't doin nothin for me...
the hook sounds waaaaaayyy too "Not Afraid"-esque to fix me too...

3/5 for the gesture he made...

(so far to me, album sounds like to make a version of the uplifting done on Distant Relatives but for himself.. and show us what he came up with!!!!!! but its cool, whatever floats his boat...)


Untitled (Gun Go Off?):
starts off on some italian shit, shoutout to Menzo!!!!!Ravioli niiggas stand up!!!!Da Godfather..
anway, back on topic, i'm digging his flow on this...and his rhymin is pretty interestin, more vicious shit brought..
then he tries to balance on his achilles fuckin heel and sings for a couple secs again...no thanks you gondola fuck...
the general vibe im gettin from this track is playful aggressiveness, slightly reminiscient of SSLP, so it could be compared to Refill...
this is one of the tracks I couldn't hate on..

4/5


Complete Rating based on track ratings: 61.75/85

What I personally rate the album: 3/5

[Freshasicanbe]

not the eminem that i grew up with and loved but still good and definitely comeback of the year with this one.

Things i like:
-articulate ,
-meaningful
-gets across his theme of the album very clearly

Things I don't like:
eminem's whiteness
music video for "not afraid", looks like a rocker not a rapper
keep weezy out of it, bro.
dre, you were missed.


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undergroundhiphopmusic.net

[issues]

Things I don't like:
eminem's whiteness
music video for "not afraid", looks like a rocker not a rapper


what the fuck..

..

[main_man]

this is the first album em has put out thats a chore for me to listen to.
what the fuck?
soft ass shit. the beats are garbage for the most part. i think havocs track is probably the best one on there. i mean, he spits, no question. lyrical ability and flow is never a question with marshall, but this just aint my type of shit at all.
you cant make the roxbury guys beat hard. lil wayne on the track or not thats just too damn weak. and the singing. i wish someone would tell homie that he cant sing worth a fuck. at all. please, just spit. thats your expertise.
he disses relapse like 2 or 3 times on this record. but relapse is way better than this, by far. id rather hear em destroy shit with fucked up accents than listen to him whine/sing anyday.
i guess this is kinda like em's "depart from me" or something. cage came on that with a more punk rock/alternative influence and it strayed from his previous work. but em is going the hip pop/radio friendly way on this. i think i like cage's record more than this, even though it had some wack ass shit on it, too.
i think "recovery" may be em's weakest album yet. but the good tracks are better than a lot of cats shit. too bad there aren't that many.

[SHEEPISH LORD OF CHAOS]

not the eminem that i grew up with and loved but still good and definitely comeback of the year with this one.

Things i like:
-articulate ,
-meaningful
-gets across his theme of the album very clearly

Things I don't like:
eminem's whiteness
music video for "not afraid", looks like a rocker not a rapper
keep weezy out of it, bro.
dre, you were missed.


dude dre's on here just one track

01 Cold Wind Blows (Just Blaze)
02 Talkin’ 2 Myself (DJ Khalil)
03 On Fire (Mr. Porter)
04 Won’t Back Down (DJ Khalil)
05 W.T.P. (Supa Dups)
06 Going Through Changes (Emile Haynie)
07 Not Afraid (Boi-1da)
08 Seduction (Boi-1da)
09 No Love (Just Blaze)
10 Space Bound (Jim Jonsin)
11 Cinderella Man (Script Shepherd)
12 25 To Life (DJ Khalil)
13 So Bad (Dr. Dre & Nick Brongers)
14 Almost Famous (DJ Khalil)
15 Love the Way You Lie (Alex Da Kid)
16 You’re Never Over (Just Blaze)
17 Untitled (Havoc)

[AliJack]

this is the first album em has put out thats a chore for me to listen to.
what the fuck?
soft ass shit. the beats are garbage for the most part. i think havocs track is probably the best one on there. i mean, he spits, no question. lyrical ability and flow is never a question with marshall, but this just aint my type of shit at all.
you cant make the roxbury guys beat hard. lil wayne on the track or not thats just too damn weak. and the singing. i wish someone would tell homie that he cant sing worth a fuck. at all. please, just spit. thats your expertise.
he disses relapse like 2 or 3 times on this record. but relapse is way better than this, by far. id rather hear em destroy shit with fucked up accents than listen to him whine/sing anyday.
i guess this is kinda like em's "depart from me" or something. cage came on that with a more punk rock/alternative influence and it strayed from his previous work. but em is going the hip pop/radio friendly way on this. i think i like cage's record more than this, even though it had some wack ass shit on it, too.
i think "recovery" may be em's weakest album yet. but the good tracks are better than a lot of cats shit. too bad there aren't that many.

peace to this post

[Rainy Dayz]

Pretty much agree with whats being said in the thread. Lyrically he is on point, but I'm not digging 80% of the beats and the vibe is just not raw enough in my opinion.

Songs I like -

- Cold Wind Blows
- 25 to Life
- So Bad
- Love the Way You Lie
- Untitled

Everything else is subpar or trash. I definitely am not feeling the direction he took this album with the cinematic, singing vibe I get from it.

[THUGNIFICENT]

I remember the first time I saw Anchorman. I thought it was terrible and couldn't make it past the forty-minute mark. But, since I had the DVD, I checked out the special features. Before long, I found myself laughing my ass off, and kept the disc around for a quick laugh the next time I was in the mood for one. The blooper reel and line-o-rama showcase the funny people in the movie, and illustrate the potential it had to be a hilarious film. But they still don't make Anchorman a good movie.

Eminem's new CD, Recovery, is kind of like my Anchorman DVD.

The album's first sixteen tracks are like the film itself, with the three bonus tracks (only one of which being on the physical CD) taking the roll of the extra features. Why on Earth they weren't included on the actual album is beyond me, especially considering some of the songs that did make the cut. Let's cover those songs which were included first.

From the beginning, one of the clear problems with Recovery is the production. This much is clear just from looking at the tracklisting and seeing that Dr. Dre only produces one of Recovery's songs. The beats range from atrocious to good (I wouldn't say that there's any "great" instrumentals), rarely bad enough to warrant a skip but rarely good enough to induce a head-nod.

To make this worse, Eminem sounds uncomfortable and out of place on just about every beat, offering a plethora of weak concepts, played punchlines and artificial emotions. To sum up the lyrical content in one word, I'd probably use "forced." Or maybe "desperate." They're both true.

Marshall spends a lot of time trying to establish to his listeners that good ol' Slim Shady is back. He does this in a few ways. First, he brings out his trademark extremely played, unfunny and dated pop-culture references that are limited to one or two targets (Michael J Fox gets three or four lines dedicated to him over the course of the LP, with each punch being essentially the same). Second, he shits on his last two CD's that everybody - himself included, I guess - hates. And, third, he announces that he's back about twelve times per song, constantly telling the listener he's the best and can't be touched on the mic (his words, not mine).

The problem with this is that he spends so much time telling us that he's back that he doesn't get a chance to be back. Also, he isn't really back. The lyrics here aren't half as good as they were on his last not-fucking-aweful album, The Eminem Show. On the opener "Cold Wind Blows" Em tells us that he'll "stick [his] dick in a circle, but [he's] not fucking around." That's not exactly at the same level as when he was making sure we knew how cancerous he was.

And these lyrics are only on the "I'm The Shit" tracks, which make up about 40 percent of Recovery. The remaining 60 percent are devoted primarily to lifeless love songs, (mostly) trite inspirational tracks, and radio-ready pieces of shit. The love songs are the lesser of these three evils, but are still horrible. "Space Bound" is emo-rap at its worst, frequently sounding like it was written by a junior high-schooler. There's some trademark Em aggression thrown in there, but that's not enough to save such a dismal effort. The inspirational songs are considerably tougher to get through. The lead single "Not Afraid" defies you to listen to it in its entirety, while "Cinderella Man" and "Almost Famous" seem taken from the 8 Mile soundtrack's trash bin. Finally, the fucking atrocious songs appealing to the only people who will actually buy albums these days: teenage girls. "Won't Back Down" (with Pink), "Talkin' 2 Myself" (with Kobe), "No Love" (with Lil Wayne) and "Love the Way You Lie" (with Rihanna) all make a retired Eminem sound like a great idea. Notice how they all have guest spots? Guess what - they make the songs they're on worse. The worst of those four songs is probably "No Love," which features Just Blaze's worst beat in maybe forever, and equally bad verses from Weezy and Slim, with each one of them spending a verse churning out cheesy, forced punchlines in between what may be Eminem's worst hook ever.

As usual with me, almost all of what I've said so far has been negative. There are certainly good parts to Recovery. The third and sixth tracks, "On Fire" and "Going Through Changes," respectively, especially stand out. "On Fire" is produced by D-12 groupmate Mr. Porter, and is the only time on the LP that Em actually lives up to all that "I'm back" bullshit he talks. The lyrics are dark and witty, and Eminem sounds hungry and vicious here. (Unlike in other similar attempts, during which Em seems to confuse lyrical ferocity and intensity with simply screaming.) "Going Through Changes" reveal what he was going for with the majority of the songs on Recovery. While the beat isn't as infectious here as it is on "On Fire," it still gets the job done, allowing room for Eminem to air out some personal stuff. This song basically takes 80% of Relapse and puts it into one song, with Em talking about the before, during, and after of his battle against addiction. The hook is wack as fuck, but other than that it's a dope song.

All in all, Recovery is a disappointing effort from Eminem, but everything he's put out has - to some extent - been a disappointment for the past decade, so it's no big deal. Better luck next time, Slim.

So that's the movie. Credits roll on "You're Never Over," which is as impossible to listen to as the title suggests. Now for the bonus features.

The first, an untitled hidden track, is ferocious. Em does his thing over Havoc's sole beat, eclipsing the success he found with "On Fire." The beat here is a bit better suited to lyrical mayhem, and Eminem pursues that opening to the fullest extent. There good lines and bad ones, but the good definitely outweigh the bad, and this track is a lot of fun while being evil like the old Em.

The second is "Ridaz." This is Slim giving the people some dope fight-music. The listener is most likely to leave this track thinking that they're the fuckin man and can fight anybody, making it the only track on Recovery that succeeds in being inspiring. It is Dr. Dre's second beat on the LP, and proves once again that these two should work together as often as possible.

The final is "Session One," with Slaughterhouse. This is Just Blaze's only dope beat on the CD (let's pray he gave all his good instrumentals to Jay Elec), and everybody does their thing on it. Eminem definitely gets ate though by all of Slaughterhouse, especially returning homebody Royce da 5'9" and Long Beach's own Crooked I. This is straight up punches over a banging instrumental, one with quotables in every verse.

Ultimately, these three tracks alone provide more enjoyment than the rest of Recovery can. These songs all have replay value, whereas only two or three of the actual songs on the album have it. They serve to show a few things: first, that Em still has "it," he just needs to relearn how to unleash it; second, what Recovery could have been; and finally, third, that Recovery really is a bad album when held up to something good.

ALBUM GRADE: 2/5
BONUS CUTS GRADE : 5/5
Ain't that a bitch....

[AliJack]

that slaughterhouse Joint that got released is fire!!!!!!!!

anybody notice royce soundin like pac for a few seconds????

[RynMur]

People won't admit it but Eminem sold the fuck out. He a singer now? Every song sounds like it should be on the radio. Alot of bad singing, hooks, and samples.

Skips: Wont Back Down, WTP (serious?), Space Bound (this sample haha)
Top 5: Not Afraid, 25 To Life, So Bad, Almost Famous, Untitled (bonus track)
Grade: (3.5/5) B

[J.T.S.]

This album is mediocre at best not surprised though , would've figured that he would follow the same formula he did with relapse..

[JakobR]

It's a 7/10 (3/5) in my opinion. It's a solid album but no where near the greatness of his first three albums. Quite surprised that Talib Kweli said it was great on his Twitter.

I hope his next album will be something that has nothing to do with him self as a person.

Favourite tracks: No love, Seduction, Almost famous.

[Twiztid-Wutang]

Relapse: Detailed review. Hopefully I dont shit on it too hard for yall. I had this album weeks ago, and I figured Id wait to post it till most got ahold of the album.

1) Cold wind blows:
The first few seconds has a cool little melodic hook, Then the beat kicked in, sounded typical and cliched. ''You can get the dick, just call me the ball sack, micheal vick in this bitch, dog, fall back'' This was the first of MANY unexpected and very uncharacteristic punchlines that do NOT fit Eminem. The hook itself was corny, but sticks in your head SADLY.

6/10

2) Talking to myself: The lyrics werent that bad, but the FUCKING hook did nothing but piss me off. We've heard him go on and on about how the fame fucks with him, blah blah for years. Drop it Em, your fucking rich, your NOT alone. ''no one knew I was going through, growing pains''? What, EVERYONE knows your EMO ass was going through shit. You tell us every verse. The beat would fit, Kanye, but not Em.

5.5/10

3)On Fire: FINALLY, This is the Em type track I wanted in this album, and we got one early. Not as violent or wordplay heavy. But the flow worked with the beat nicely. An early favorite.

7/10

4)Wont back down: This beat is so damn loud, alot is going on behind Em, its like he has to yell to be heard. But it took awhile for me to grow on me, and it did a bit. I would say its in the top 5 of the album, since the lyrics and beats go well, though Eminem sounds awkward on most of the beats.

6/10

5)W.T.P: Worst track on the album, and probrably Em's worst track since Shake that ass.

0.5/10

6) Going through changes: A HORRIBLE use of Ozzy on the hook. Sounds JUST like alot of Em's past self loathing songs. Its another Saying goodbye to hollywood, the problem is THAT song was good, This one is not.

4/10

7) Not afraid: What happened to ''Just dont give a fuck'' Eminem? This song is horrible, Not even the beat gets me, I can dig this song at all.

2/10

8)Seduction: The beat is fucking cool, slow, dark, his flow is actually cool, but this song should have been on Relapse. Its not the worst of the album at all, I just think its a little to arrogant. Em normally doesnt go like that. This is like Superman, just not as good.

5/10

9) No love: The worst use of a sample Ive heard since...Going through changes lol. This was the song the mainstream cock suckers probrably looked forward to. I didnt care then, or now. EXCEPT, Eminems verse was fucking bonkers, This is the EMinem I expected on the whole album and didnt get it.

7/10

10) Spacebound: I do NOT know what the hell he was doing on this. This is about Hip hop obviously, Tech n9ne did this SAME type of track and did it ALOT better. I hate this song. Even the typical Women bashing lines sounded forced. VERY very Emo rap of him.

2/10

11) Cinderella Man: Go listen to Drill team by Tech n9ne, Eminem ripped off the beat AND the singing part from him. Lame shit.

1/10

12) 25 to life: I like the singing Hook that the chick does, Once again it doesnt fit em, but I liked it. The song itself was NOT as good as it could have been. MORE self loathing and depressed bullshit. Another track shitting on Hip hop.

2/10

13) So bad: A weak beat, and a VERY VERY weak, lame ass Singing hook by Eminem. He boasts SO much on this album, but he hasnt been great on this album at ALL up to this point.

3/10

14) Almost Famous: I like the way some one compared this to a 8 mile left over. The beat is great though, I think this is one of the better songs on the album. The female singing sample is cool as hell.

7/10

15) love the way you lie: This fucking song is so GOD DAMN DUMB. The chick rihanna bitches about getting a few eye jammies from CB, Then she does a fucking song with the most violent woman basher in hip hop? WHAT

5/10

16) Your never over: From second one, I hated this song. He's singing AGAIN. Damn this album is commercial as fuck. I know it was a Proof tribute, but it didnt work.

4/10

17) Here we go: THIS is easily the best track of the album. JUST like Relapse, with Underground, The last track is the best. Havoc went NUTS on this album, The sample is fucking amazing. And Eminem did his BEST flow on it. 'Havoc on the track I reak it'' The best punchline of the album.

10/10


77/170

In my opinion. One of his weakest albums. And believe me, I will NOT be like most and riding this albums nuts in a year. This album has like 5 out of 17 tracks that I can see on repeat. Untitled is my most played, and will be for a LONG time. but all in all. Fucking horrible album. Relapse MURKED this joint

[RiseWithTheFallen]

^
I liked it a little more than you seemed to but I agree with you completely. Relapse was better.

[UncontrolledSubstans]

Hahaha lol at people loving the "Here We Go Track" and saying it's better than the album itself just because Havoc produced it. It aint that good, actually quite corny and Havoc beat aint even that good.

[Jin10304]

Its not just because Hav made it, its because it practically smashes all the songs on Recovery, has a better flow from Em on it & doesnt have a shitty sung hook by a guest or Em.

[Twiztid-Wutang]

Its not just because Hav made it, its because it practically smashes all the songs on Recovery, has a better flow from Em on it & doesnt have a shitty sung hook by a guest or Em.

EXACTLY

I didnt say that Havocs producing was all I liked about this song, Its the best track on the album because Em MURDERED the beat, and did what he started on Underground on Relapse, made the rest of the album look bad. (Though Relapse shits on Recovery)

[Sergio]

I hate to say this but what an amazing comeback album! He really outshined his peers lyrically and musically, probably his best or second best album!

[claaa7]

I've been a fan of Eminem since i first heard "My Name Is" back in '99 when he first came up with Dre backing him. Between "The Slim Shady LP", "Marshall Mathers LP" and "The Eminem Show" he really showed that he's one of the illest and most fierce rhymers involved with this whole art form that is hip-hop music. Production was also very dope, Em had a formula that made sure that he had a few radio friendly singles on each album but those was never a true representation of the album.

With "Encore" in 2004, Em was obviously tired off the game and while half the album is lyrically dopeness the other half is ruined with a whole load of bullshit ruining some serious Dr. Dre beats. to top it off he had the nerve to 'retire' with that shit rock being his 'last' album... or not - fastforward to 2009 and Em drops his come-back album "Relapse", the only Em album to be FULLY produced by Dr. Dre the beats fucking banged and thump harder than most albums released in '09. Em spazzed out on this album, lyrically he showed the world how technically dope he really is but the world dissed it because large parts of the LP was performed with various weird dialects.

Enter "Recovery" in 2010, fueled by all the hate his first comeback album catched, you can hear that Eminem is hungrier than he have been since the year 2000. Last year’s formula of funny, weird punchlines and stories delivered with European and Indian accents over pounding live instrumentation infused Dr. Dre beats is nowhere to be seen. While Dre still acts executive producer of the project and giving it his full co-sign, the production is handled by a wider range of beatmakers than any previous album by Marshall Mathers. You have DJ Khalil, Just Blaze, Bo-1-Da, Dr. Dre, Havoc and Emile supplying beats together with lesser known cats like Script Shepherd and Supa Dups.
The first song on the album is a Just Blaze production called “Cold Wind Blows”, which points out one of the major flaws of the album right from the start. Before we get to the actual song we get to hear a 30 second acapella sung by Em in the most homosexual way possible, I don’t know what the hell he was thinking but the intro sounds horrible. So fast-forward 28 seconds when you put on the album and then BOOM, the bang that is “Cold Wind Blows” hit you; this track is the perfect album opener, Just Blaze provides a very solid, hard beat that is right up Em’s alley (it even has a few of Dre’s trademarks in there with that BIG, BIIIG sound and the heavy keys). Lyrically this guy is totally spazzing out on here and it stands clear that he’s on a vengeance, going out to prove to the world that he still got it and, in fact, haven’t even lost a step. It is amazing to hear Em deliver truthful and self-revealing rhymes that is technically perfect without either dialects or putting on any character. The track is so dope that the self-performed hook doesn’t even really bother me.
The album continues in the same path with another strong cut in “Talkin’ 2 Myself”. The production pretty much picks up right where the previous left off which gives Em the energy to make himself heard loud and clear, exposing his depressive state to the world. He speaks on how he at one point was so jealous of the shine that Lil’ Wayne and KanYe was getting that he was very close to releasing diss records on them both to get back in the public eye. While he obviously could destroy both of them, tracks like this is a much better choice for getting back to the top. It’s a big big plus that he doesn’t handle the chorus by himself on here but instead gets a guy named Kobe deliver it. It sounds dope and I constantly hear myself singing along to it, this would’ve been a good choice for single in my opinion. Following this is another good song called “On Fire”, which basically is just that, strictly spitting for the entire song without no cheesy hook. The beat is nothing to write home about but it is not bad in any way neither, thus making up a good song with heavy lines like “………………” (quote).
Ok, so the album starts of in a really good fashion, with three tracks of fire that’ll be enjoyed by most of the man’s long-time supporters and fans. But with track #4 a step is taken in a totally wrong direction when a radio-designed track and an ever more radio-designed ugly ass guest feature from Pink. This doesn’t make any sense whatsoever since Em built much of his career taking shots at commercialized MTV acceptable bullshit artists like this. I mean how the hell you gonna ditch the new collaboration you recorded with Royce Da 5’9” and his peers in favor for something shitty and industrialized like this record right here?! You don’t play your fans like that, that shit doesn’t fly well with a lot of people. The man’s lyrics might, or might not be, incredible on here but I don’t know cuz this is on automatic skip after only a couple of listens. The wackness carries over to the next song, “White Trash Party”, which even has a title that indicates that it’s going to be some weak shit. Once again Mathers is spitting rawer than most rappers you ever heard but with a bland beat like this and a horribly cheesy chorus this is beyond irritating.
“Going Through Changes”, produced by underrated beatsmith Emile, is a whole lot better as Eminem uses his lyrical skill for a great performance by telling the listeners about his thoughts on Proof’s death and the events that surrounded it. Emile provides some knocking crisp drums for Em to lean on and a sample of Ozzy Osbourne doing the hook adds to the dopeness of the song in my opinion. I’m not a big fan of any of the two following Boi-1-Da productions that follows – in fact he was the one producer that I really didn’t like seeing having beats on this album when the tracklist were revealed. The first is the single, “Not Afraid”, which clearly has Em and the beatmaker looking at the radio and TV to see what is selling today and trying to come up with something along those lines. It’s a motivational song that’s just a little bit too “emo” for my liking, nor does the production make it anything worthwhile.
Lil’ Wayne is invited, as the only other rapping MC on the album, to perform alongside Em on “No Love”. I’ve seen this catch some flack in other reviews and on the net but I actually feel it’s one of the best songs on the entire album. Just Blaze’s beat is dark and atmospheric and, very surprisingly, successfully manages to incorporate a sample from Haddaway’s “What Is Love? (Baby Don’t Hurt Me)”. Even Wayne has a pretty neat verse on here but more importantly, being on a track with someone who is considered one of the “greatest” by the masses today really gives Em that extra spark, delivering one hell of a performance. He is going nuts on here, the flow, delivery and the wordplay is out of this world and with lines like “……………..” (quote) this makes for one of my definite favorite verses off the album (and that’s aying a lot considering it’s more or less a lyrical masterpiece).
Following some filler another brilliant couple of songs is next, starting with the intriguing “25 to Life”, a concept song playing out as a written letter to hip-hop. A tired theme that has been played out way too many times ever since Common’s classic “I Used to Love H.E.R.”, but when it’s Eminem who pulls the strings you know he’s gonna have his own little unique twist to it. And so he does… Over a grabbing beat with a beautiful sampled vocal hook Em describes how he feels betrayed, cheated on and trapped in this game called hip-hop. You’ll have to listen for yourself but this is lyrical greatness from a lyrical wiz. “So Bad” follows, the reunion with Dr. Dre, and all the traditional elements are incorporated; dark keys, big atmosphere, clean and crisp drums makes for a simple but effective sonic masterpiece. I don’t even have to tell you that Mathers delivers yet another astonishing gang of verses, because this album doesn’t offer much else than lyrical dopeness on Em’s account. There is one bad thing about this song though – considering how well this works it makes you wish Dre would have been given one hell of a lot more space this time around as well. Any Eminem album should be required to have at the very least, 3 Dr. Dre beats on it if you ask me. “Almost Famous” bangs pretty hard but at the same time it’s a bit hit-or-miss, it got its share of ill elements but at the same time it’s really nothing that’ll leave you fiending for more.
“Love The Way You Lie” is another track that’ll make you feel depressed and betrayed for being an Eminem fan, inviting Rhianna to do a chorus should never even have been an idea for this album. The collaboration is obviously not working and it’s plain shitty. In my opinion it’s really disappointing to see Em inviting guests like Rhianna and Pink to his album, he talks about redeeming himself and catering to his fans on tracks like “Cold Wind Blows” but at the same time a lot of beats and guest features seems like desperate cries for radio plays and makes him look like a hypocrite to his long-time followers. The next song is even worse and it’s even more suprising since the track is a tribute to deceased friend and bandmate Proof and is laced by Just Blaze. The joint, which is called “You’re Never Over” is top of the line ultra cheesy with a pussy-sounding beat, silly sung hook and even the verses ain’t at all as moving as Proof deserved. I for one was disappointed that Em didn’t include a Proof dedication on his last album but I’d rather be without it than hear a song like this – this sound nothing like Proof’s music or the music they did together and it sounds way too happy and uptempo for being a mourning song. I don’t know what was on Just Blaze’s mind either, he performed well on his other contributions and you’d imagine this would be the most important song off the entire album so it’s a real, real shame both the MC and the producer fucked this one up big time. What a disappointment!
Now if Mobb Deep was never signed to G-Unit/Aftermath this album would probably have ended in the worst possible way possible (consider that it also started in the worst possible way imagined, with that cheesy acapella). Luckily Havoc was called in to do the hidden, untitled bonus track on the album and while it doesn’t sound like anything from “Hell On Earth” it’s raw enough for Em to spazz out heavily one last time. This is my favorite joint on the album as the beat is dope but puts Em in the forefront who delivers three insane verses that’s straight aggressive and hardcore Slim Shady steez. This is what the true fans of this MC truly wants to hear from him, and just like the way “Underground” closed his last album, this song leaves you grinning, just fiending for more where this came from. There’s a whole bunch of quotables from this track, how about “……………………” (quote)?
In conclusion I feel that “Recovery” includes way too much filler to be considered a true quality album. The album has grown on me though; the first time I played this I couldn’t get through the entire thing and really thought it was straight up wack. That is not the case when you see the whole picture – lyrically this is another crowning achievement in Eminem’s career. He basically took everything that people complained about with “Relapse” and did a 180 degrees turn, serious topics, really going in and dissecting himself but without the corny accents. One of the major flaws is Marshall’s constant try at crossing over, more or less every song he performs a self-sung chorus that’s major corny. He doesn’t have the voice nor the soul to get away with such a stunt. Imagine Ghostface crooning like on “Ghost Deini” on every single song on his next opus and you would be guaranteed it wouldn’t work. Well, it definitely doesn’t work for Em either, since he can’t sing for shit which really becomes painfully clear. The production is another thing that could have been done in a much better way – Eminem is one of the elite MC’s and should be a leader and not a follower. It is obvious that him and the exec’s have studied what’s “hot” on the radio today and laid out the blueprint from there. There IS a lot of dope songs on here though, this album is not a throw-away at all but it’s quite disturbing for older Eminem fans to finally hear the man come back in such a lyrical form only to throw it away on half-ass “microwaved for the masses” production by the likes of Bo-1da and Jim Jonsin. Even The Alchemist and DJ Premier were willing to work with Mathers for the project and there is so many people out there that went nuts just off the idea of that, and Em got enough fucking money to do whatever the fuck he wants. Of course he is heavily controlled by the labels but it’s just a shame an album with the potential of a masterpiece turns out being a decent only release. Without the cheeseball hooks and with the beat-set off “Relapse” this might’ve very well been Mather’s best album to date. On a side-note, the two iTunes bonus tracks are BLAZING HEAT, Just Blaze, Dr. Dre and Slaughterhouse production and features should without a doubt have been included on the retail LP. This won’t get my money but if I get the chance I will steal this from the store, plus I got a modified 13-track tracklist (with the bonus songs as tracks #4 and #5) on my iPod.
2.8/5

[claaa7]

I've been a fan of Eminem since i first heard "My Name Is" back in '99 when he first came up with Dre backing him. Between "The Slim Shady LP", "Marshall Mathers LP" and "The Eminem Show" he really showed that he's one of the illest and most fierce rhymers involved with this whole art form that is hip-hop music. Production was also very dope, Em had a formula that made sure that he had a few radio friendly singles on each album but those was never a true representation of the album.

With "Encore" in 2004, Em was obviously tired off the game and while half the album is lyrically dopeness the other half is ruined with a whole load of bullshit ruining some serious Dr. Dre beats. to top it off he had the nerve to 'retire' with that shit rock being his 'last' album... or not - fastforward to 2009 and Em drops his come-back album "Relapse", the only Em album to be FULLY produced by Dr. Dre the beats fucking banged and thump harder than most albums released in '09. Em spazzed out on this album, lyrically he showed the world how technically dope he really is but the world dissed it because large parts of the LP was performed with various weird dialects.

Enter "Recovery" in 2010, fueled by all the hate his first comeback album catched, you can hear that Eminem is hungrier than he have been since the year 2000. Last year’s formula of funny, weird punchlines and stories delivered with European and Indian accents over pounding live instrumentation infused Dr. Dre beats is nowhere to be seen. While Dre still acts executive producer of the project and giving it his full co-sign, the production is handled by a wider range of beatmakers than any previous album by Marshall Mathers. You have DJ Khalil, Just Blaze, Bo-1-Da, Dr. Dre, Havoc and Emile supplying beats together with lesser known cats like Script Shepherd and Supa Dups.

The first song on the album is a Just Blaze production called “Cold Wind Blows”, which points out one of the major flaws of the album right from the start. Before we get to the actual song we get to hear a 30 second acapella sung by Em in the most homosexual way possible, I don’t know what the hell he was thinking but the intro sounds horrible. So fast-forward 28 seconds when you put on the album and then BOOM, the bang that is “Cold Wind Blows” hit you; this track is the perfect album opener, Just Blaze provides a very solid, hard beat that is right up Em’s alley (it even has a few of Dre’s trademarks in there with that BIG, BIIIG sound and the heavy keys). Lyrically this guy is totally spazzing out on here and it stands clear that he’s on a vengeance, going out to prove to the world that he still got it and, in fact, haven’t even lost a step. It is amazing to hear Em deliver truthful and self-revealing rhymes that is technically perfect without either dialects or putting on any character. The track is so dope that the self-performed hook doesn’t even really bother me.

The album continues in the same path with another strong cut in “Talkin’ 2 Myself”. The production pretty much picks up right where the previous left off which gives Em the energy to make himself heard loud and clear, exposing his depressive state to the world. He speaks on how he at one point was so jealous of the shine that Lil’ Wayne and KanYe was getting that he was very close to releasing diss records on them both to get back in the public eye. While he obviously could destroy both of them, tracks like this is a much better choice for getting back to the top. It’s a big big plus that he doesn’t handle the chorus by himself on here but instead gets a guy named Kobe deliver it. It sounds dope and I constantly hear myself singing along to it, this would’ve been a good choice for single in my opinion. Following this is another good song called “On Fire”, which basically is just that, strictly spitting for the entire song without no cheesy hook. The beat is nothing to write home about but it is not bad in any way neither, thus making up a good song with heavy Shady-like lines like “Shit dissin me is just like pissin off the wizard of oz/ Wrap a lizard in gauze beat you in the jaws with it/ Grab the scissors and saws and, cut out your livers gizzards and balls/ Throw you in the middle of the ocean in the blizzard with jaws”.

Ok, so the album starts of in a really good fashion, with three tracks of fire that’ll be enjoyed by most of the man’s long-time supporters and fans. But with track #4 a step is taken in a totally wrong direction when a radio-designed track and an ever more radio-designed ugly ass guest feature from Pink. This doesn’t make any sense whatsoever since Em built much of his career taking shots at commercialized MTV acceptable bullshit artists like this. I mean how the hell you gonna ditch the new collaboration you recorded with Royce Da 5’9” and his peers in favor for something shitty and industrialized like this record right here?! You don’t play your fans like that, that shit doesn’t fly well with a lot of people. The man’s lyrics might, or might not be, incredible on here but I don’t know cuz this is on automatic skip after only a couple of listens. The wackness carries over to the next song, “White Trash Party”, which even has a title that indicates that it’s going to be some weak shit. Once again Mathers is spitting rawer than most rappers you ever heard but with a bland beat like this and a horribly cheesy chorus this is beyond irritating.

“Going Through Changes”, produced by underrated beatsmith Emile, is a whole lot better as Eminem uses his lyrical skill for a great performance by telling the listeners about his thoughts on Proof’s death and the events that surrounded it. Emile provides some knocking crisp drums for Em to lean on and a sample of Ozzy Osbourne doing the hook adds to the dopeness of the song in my opinion. I’m not a big fan of any of the two following Boi-1-Da productions that follows – in fact he was the one producer that I really didn’t like seeing having beats on this album when the tracklist were revealed. The first is the single, “Not Afraid”, which clearly has Em and the beatmaker looking at the radio and TV to see what is selling today and trying to come up with something along those lines. It’s a motivational song that’s just a little bit too “emo” for my liking, nor does the production make it anything worthwhile.

Lil’ Wayne is invited, as the only other rapping MC on the album, to perform alongside Em on “No Love”. I’ve seen this catch some flack in other reviews and on the net but I actually feel it’s one of the best songs on the entire album. Just Blaze’s beat is dark and atmospheric and, very surprisingly, successfully manages to incorporate a sample from Haddaway’s “What Is Love? (Baby Don’t Hurt Me)”. Even Wayne has a pretty neat verse on here but more importantly, being on a track with someone who is considered one of the “greatest” by the masses today really gives Em that extra spark, delivering one hell of a performance. He is going nuts on here, the flow, delivery and the wordplay is out of this world and with lines like “More alive than I have been in my whole entire life / I can see these people's ears perk up as I begin, to spaz with the pen, I'm a little bit sicker than most/ Shit's finna get thick again/ They say the competition is stiff, But I get a hard dick from this shit/ Now stick it in - I ain't never giving in again ” this makes for one of my definite favorite verses off the album (and that’s aying a lot considering it’s more or less a lyrical masterpiece).

Following some filler another brilliant couple of songs is next, starting with the intriguing “25 to Life”, a concept song playing out as a written letter to hip-hop. A tired theme that has been played out way too many times ever since Common’s classic “I Used to Love H.E.R.”, but when it’s Eminem who pulls the strings you know he’s gonna have his own little unique twist to it. And so he does… Over a grabbing beat with a beautiful sampled vocal hook Em describes how he feels betrayed, cheated on and trapped in this game called hip-hop. You’ll have to listen for yourself but this is lyrical greatness from a lyrical wiz. “So Bad” follows, the reunion with Dr. Dre, and all the traditional elements are incorporated; dark keys, big atmosphere, clean and crisp drums makes for a simple but effective sonic masterpiece. I don’t even have to tell you that Mathers delivers yet another astonishing gang of verses, because this album doesn’t offer much else than lyrical dopeness on Em’s account. There is one bad thing about this song though – considering how well this works it makes you wish Dre would have been given one hell of a lot more space this time around as well. Any Eminem album should be required to have at the very least, 3 Dr. Dre beats on it if you ask me. “Almost Famous” bangs pretty hard but at the same time it’s a bit hit-or-miss, it got its share of ill elements but at the same time it’s really nothing that’ll leave you fiending for more.

“Love The Way You Lie” is another track that’ll make you feel depressed and betrayed for being an Eminem fan, inviting Rhianna to do a chorus should never even have been an idea for this album. The collaboration is obviously not working and it’s plain shitty. In my opinion it’s really disappointing to see Em inviting guests like Rhianna and Pink to his album, he talks about redeeming himself and catering to his fans on tracks like “Cold Wind Blows” but at the same time a lot of beats and guest features seems like desperate cries for radio plays and makes him look like a hypocrite to his long-time followers. The next song is even worse and it’s even more suprising since the track is a tribute to deceased friend and bandmate Proof and is laced by Just Blaze. The joint, which is called “You’re Never Over” is top of the line ultra cheesy with a pussy-sounding beat, silly sung hook and even the verses ain’t at all as moving as Proof deserved. I for one was disappointed that Em didn’t include a Proof dedication on his last album but I’d rather be without it than hear a song like this – this sound nothing like Proof’s music or the music they did together and it sounds way too happy and uptempo for being a mourning song. I don’t know what was on Just Blaze’s mind either, he performed well on his other contributions and you’d imagine this would be the most important song off the entire album so it’s a real, real shame both the MC and the producer fucked this one up big time. What a disappointment!

Now if Mobb Deep was never signed to G-Unit/Aftermath this album would probably have ended in the worst possible way possible (consider that it also started in the worst possible way imagined, with that cheesy acapella). Luckily Havoc was called in to do the hidden, untitled bonus track on the album and while it doesn’t sound like anything from “Hell On Earth” it’s raw enough for Em to spazz out heavily one last time. This is my favorite joint on the album as the beat is dope but puts Em in the forefront who delivers three insane verses that’s straight aggressive and hardcore Slim Shady steez. This is what the true fans of this MC truly wants to hear from him, and just like the way “Underground” closed his last album, this song leaves you grinning, just fiending for more where this came from. There’s a whole bunch of quotables from this track, how about “You gonna have Kurt Cobain asking to autograph on a blood stained napkin/ Unfashionable, about as rational as a rash on a fag's asshole/ Now let's take that line, run it up the flag pole with Elton/ See if he's cool with it, don't stand there and look stupid at me bitch/ I ain't in the mood for the shit, gif my dick, Google it till it pops up/ Ya'll are so motherfuckin full of shit that your stocked up/ Me, I'm always shittin diarrhea at the mouth, Till your speakers crap out".

In conclusion I feel that “Recovery” includes way too much filler to be considered a true quality album. The album has grown on me though; the first time I played this I couldn’t get through the entire thing and really thought it was straight up wack. That is not the case when you see the whole picture – lyrically this is another crowning achievement in Eminem’s career. He basically took everything that people complained about with “Relapse” and did a 180 degrees turn, serious topics, really going in and dissecting himself but without the corny accents. One of the major flaws is Marshall’s constant try at crossing over, more or less every song he performs a self-sung chorus that’s major corny. He doesn’t have the voice nor the soul to get away with such a stunt. Imagine Ghostface crooning like on “Ghost Deini” on every single song on his next opus and you would be guaranteed it wouldn’t work. Well, it definitely doesn’t work for Em either, since he can’t sing for shit which really becomes painfully clear. The production is another thing that could have been done in a much better way – Eminem is one of the elite MC’s and should be a leader and not a follower. It is obvious that him and the exec’s have studied what’s “hot” on the radio today and laid out the blueprint from there. There IS a lot of dope songs on here though, this album is not a throw-away at all but it’s quite disturbing for older Eminem fans to finally hear the man come back in such a lyrical form only to throw it away on half-ass “microwaved for the masses” production by the likes of Bo-1da and Jim Jonsin. Even The Alchemist and DJ Premier were willing to work with Mathers for the project and there is so many people out there that went nuts just off the idea of that, and Em got enough fucking money to do whatever the fuck he wants. Of course he is heavily controlled by the labels but it’s just a shame an album with the potential of a masterpiece turns out being a decent only release. Without the cheeseball hooks and with the beat-set off “Relapse” this might’ve very well been Mather’s best album to date. On a side-note, the two iTunes bonus tracks are BLAZING HEAT, Just Blaze, Dr. Dre and Slaughterhouse production and features should without a doubt have been included on the retail LP. This won’t get my money but if I get the chance I will steal this from the store, plus I got a modified 13-track tracklist (with the bonus songs as tracks #4 and #5) on my iPod.


2.8/5

[Jin10304]

"the only Em album to be FULLY produced by Dr. Dre the beats"

If were counting the bonus tracks from the Deluxe Edition & Refill then no.

"Beautiful"=Eminem
"My Darling"=Eminem
"Careful What You Wish For"=Eminem
"Elevator"=Eminem
"Forever"=Boi 1nda

[claaa7]

haha come on now man, you're just super-nitpicking shit right here. NO i'm talking about the retail album, where Dre produced EVERYTHING besides "Beautiful". that makes it an (very, very close to be) fully produced by Dr. Dre. 19 songs out of 20, i think it's retarded to to not call "Relapse" a Dr. Dre produced album lmao

[Jin10304]

99% isn't 100%, Relapse isnt fully produced by Dre, but very close.

[claaa7]

haha yeah whatever. that one song doesn't matter, of course "Liquid Swords" or "Ironman" is albums produced by RZA, or "2001" is an album produced by Dre, or "Welcome 2 Detroit" is an album produced by Jay Dee.

[Jin10304]

4th Disciple, Tru Master, Lord Finesse have something to say about that. Dilla's is fully produced though, he shares co production with Karriem Riggins.

[claaa7]

hahahaha yeah man i know that there is a song on each that is produced by another artist but that doesn't mean that if you're talking about albums produced by DJ Premier you shouldn't mention "Livin' Proof" or "Tha Blaqprint". of course he didn't do all of the beats but he did the very, very majority on them that they could be considered to be produced by him. it's like saying "Liquid Swords" isn't a GZA album.

i'm letting this go now cuz this is a mad silly discussion

[Sosa]

Wow.
Having heard the 3 singles they suggested this would be a competent enough album. I only just heard this yesterday so I had no idea.

Completely fuckin' wack. I actually didn't get through the whole album. The endless barrage of shitty out of tune hooks and electro cack beats and anonymous whiny lyrics were just unbearable. Fuckin' shocking.

Funny thing is he keeps saying on this LP that Relapse was wack. When infact it was very good, especially compared to this piece of shit coaster.

Going through changes? White Trash Party? What the fuck was going through his mind? Easily the worst thing hes ever done. At least the Bad Meets Evil joint got him back on track.

[OntheHorizon]

Wow.
Having heard the 3 singles they suggested this would be a competent enough album. I only just heard this yesterday so I had no idea.

Completely fuckin' wack. I actually didn't get through the whole album. The endless barrage of shitty out of tune hooks and electro cack beats and anonymous whiny lyrics were just unbearable. Fuckin' shocking.

Funny thing is he keeps saying on this LP that Relapse was wack. When infact it was very good, especially compared to this piece of shit coaster.

Going through changes? White Trash Party? What the fuck was going through his mind? Easily the worst thing hes ever done. At least the Bad Meets Evil joint got him back on track.


Relapse was worse then this, I dont care how you explain it, those accents killed the record, I actually bought that piece of shit and took it to sound exchange the next day

Em screaming like a banshee >>>>>>>>>The Russian Pedophile accent

And Going through Changes was one of the best songs on this, reminds me his old Cleaning out my closet, Rock Bottom type shit.......... Then again, I'm partial to the Black sabbath song in the sample so maybe thats the reason I liked it so much

Rest of the album is alright, Not his best but no where near as bad as the web makes it out to be...........Its one of those albums that you just know if it hadnt been succesful the Web geeks woulda went easier on it...........But because it sold so well and its just okay, the internet has to overcompensate by declaring it the worst thing ever........

[Sosa]

because it sold so well and its just okay, the internet has to overcompensate by declaring it the worst thing ever........

Not me. I don't give a fuck if it sold 10 copies or 10 million. It has nothing to do with anything. I listened to it and my reaction was that it was a horrible album. I guess some people hated the accents more than others. I just thought Relapse was much better.

Have you seen his new video for Spacebound by the way? Its got one of my favorite porn stars Sasha Grey in it. But Spacebound is still a shit song.

[OntheHorizon]

Not me. I don't give a fuck if it sold 10 copies or 10 million. It has nothing to do with anything. I listened to it and my reaction was that it was a horrible album. I guess some people hated the accents more than others. I just thought Relapse was much better.

Have you seen his new video for Spacebound by the way? Its got one of my favorite porn stars Sasha Grey in it. But Spacebound is still a shit song.

Yeah, to each his own, I couldnt handle the accents at all............Deja Vu was dope tho

And I been hearing about that Space Bound video, I knew she was in it, I heard dude offed himself at the end or summin........But space bound aint one of my favorites either so I wasnt in a hurry to peep it, Theres alot of better videos out there with Sasha performing in them, lol

[tekunique]

based on reviews in here im glad i didnt pick it up. i just had a bad feeling about it once the radio singles surfaced. seems like relapse was his personal comeback album and this one is targetted for the commercial market.

loved how relapse is pretty much all em & dre no guests cept 50's short verse.

[Twiztid-Wutang]

Not me. I don't give a fuck if it sold 10 copies or 10 million. It has nothing to do with anything. I listened to it and my reaction was that it was a horrible album. I guess some people hated the accents more than others. I just thought Relapse was much better.

Have you seen his new video for Spacebound by the way? Its got one of my favorite porn stars Sasha Grey in it. But Spacebound is still a shit song.

Agreed. People use the internet or the ''Hater'' excuse whenever people aren't ball kissing something that the general public likes. We are allowed our opinions, and if we didn't like it, we didn't fucking like it, Period.

Relapse, in mine, and your opinion was better. Doesn't mean we're overcompensating for a thing, we have our views.