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Golden_Armz
10-08-2005, 08:55 AM
Today's newspaper made some interesting points for a mainstream tabloid, in an article named 'Is This the Death of America' the editor states;

"With TV providing a ceaseless backdrop of the countries failings-a crippled and tone-deaf president, a negligent government, corruption, military atrocities, soaring debt, racial conflict, poverty, bloated bodies in floodwater, people dying on camera for want of food, water and medicine-it seems things were falling apart in the land where happiness is promoted in the constitution...."

it goes on to say;

"America which has the world costliest health care, had it turned out- higher infant mortality rates than broke and despised Cuba..."

"Americans are the planets biggest flag wavers.They are reared on conceit that theirs is the worlds best and most enviable country, born only the day before yesterday but a model society with freedom opportunity and prosperity not found they think in older cultures....."

"Some 46 million cant afford health insurance, 18,000 of whom will die early because of it...."

"The US is 43rd in the world infant mortality rankings. A baby born in Beijing has nearly three times the chance of reaching its 1st birthday than a baby born in washington...."

"The war, seen as unwinnable, is becoming a bleak burden, with nearly 2,000 American dead...."

"The war costs $6 billion a month...."

"In five years the war will have cost each American family $11,300, it is said...."

Source- Daily Mirror pg.17 Sat 8th

DISCUSS

PEACE

Soul Controller
10-08-2005, 06:52 PM
lol

http://costofwar.com/

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 09:36 AM
The response to this thread shows the level of some of the people on this forum and their desire for idle talk!

TeknicelStylez
10-09-2005, 10:05 AM
Yea keep acting like Tony Blair and good old England doesn't have their hand in the honey pot.

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 10:15 AM
^lol by talkin bout US how am i acting like Tony Blair? hahaha wots that got to do with nething....the whole point was that a UK paper was writing it, this aint turf wars brah.

TeknicelStylez
10-09-2005, 10:23 AM
I don't care, I'm the first to say the U.S. is rediculous, but alot of people are quick to bias the population without realizing that we're actually the victims of a shoddy government. You read about it in newspapers, "I" Live It. "I" can't afford health insurance, "I" used to live in extreme poverty (now it's not too bad), "I" see 14 year olds crumpled up under cars sick as hell because they're addicted to crack, I know females that had their babies die on them or taken away from them and placed in a 10 times worse enviroment. I see jobs being taken away from us. I get harassed by cops almost every day.

I'm not saying you do it, but alot of people from Europe do, so It's only natural I'm defensive about it.

TeknicelStylez
10-09-2005, 10:23 AM
^lol by talkin bout US how am i acting like Tony Blair? hahaha wots that got to do with nething....the whole point was that a UK paper was writing it, this aint turf wars brah.I didn't say your acting like tony blair I said keep acting like.............. TONY BLAIR AND ENGLAND DON'T GOT A PART OF.......

Get it?

midGet
10-09-2005, 12:03 PM
...we're actually the victims of a shoddy government.

but the government was voted by US citizens...or y'all didn't know Bush is st00pid? lol

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 12:25 PM
I don't care, I'm the first to say the U.S. is rediculous, but alot of people are quick to bias the population without realizing that we're actually the victims of a shoddy government. You read about it in newspapers, "I" Live It. "I" can't afford health insurance, "I" used to live in extreme poverty (now it's not too bad), "I" see 14 year olds crumpled up under cars sick as hell because they're addicted to crack, I know females that had their babies die on them or taken away from them and placed in a 10 times worse enviroment. I see jobs being taken away from us. I get harassed by cops almost every day.

I'm not saying you do it, but alot of people from Europe do, so It's only natural I'm defensive about it.
Listen, i know bout the US government without relying on shitty newspapers which are just an evil mouthpiece.....

but the newspaper made some statements such as the infant mortality that i didnt know about (stats wise)

thats why i said DISCUSS if your gonna be gettin emotional about it then dont reply.....

of course UK is responsible too, this government does things slightly different here tho-u know that-i got my eye on this government too dont worry-

no governments are 'my' governments i represent myself-

all those things u seen is a worldwide problem-

but ur country disguises it under the American Dream- u wanna be mad at something be mad at the flag wavin patriots in ur country-the zionist jewish merchants-the slaves to the dollar and so on-

theres worse ghettos in Africa/Asia and the Middle East so ur not the only one

PEACE

living_undead
10-09-2005, 12:25 PM
but the government was voted by US citizens...or y'all didn't know Bush is st00pid? lol
Citizens have no say in actual political decisions though. Look at the latest few presidential elections, both parties, rather than debating actual politics, just slander and try to deface who they're up against. We vote for which dude we like more, rather than who is better suited to do the job, US citizens are so disconnected from issues in this country it's ridiculous.

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 12:40 PM
^4real, and @ the end of the day, what choices do u have? Bush or Kerry? hmm both devils man.

midGet
10-09-2005, 01:01 PM
so the deal is, you can't even get rid off these suckers, right?? hey, that's just like in my country, lol...

Soul Controller
10-09-2005, 01:08 PM
ov course u can get 'rid of them'

when the people actually wake up and realise that a FEW run their countries
and those few are even less on a world level.
most of the peopel in this world see reality as, hey im ok.. your ok. why change anything.

you have the power to change everything,
peace

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 01:15 PM
Indeed-but it all comes down to the most simplest of issues;

money
greed

some ppl are too compfortable....

some people have been silenced....

im all down for an uprising....

but some conditions have to change first....

and that starts with ourselves first...PEACE

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 01:16 PM
when flex drops a bomb/bin laden drops a plane
bush drops bird flu


lol

TeknicelStylez
10-09-2005, 01:19 PM
When the moneys in the majority's hands they're going to want to keep it that way. When 85% of the population is comfortable where they're at because 10% made it that way, 5% rarely has say in the situation.

Take a look at the map of the states that voted against Bush, the coastal states where most of the inner city ghettos are regioned (Big cities maintain around harbor areas thats how they economically blossom), opposed to the mid west and inner country states, where most of the suburbs are stationed, people with money, voted for bush. They're in the majority, majority rules.

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 03:21 PM
Fuck votes no ones vote really counts- Kerry aint any better even tho he may be a bit smarter than that donkey

we got a puppy pm- that would crack to pieces if he was asked a REAL question...

anyone seen any of these 'news' conferences' man a big shame

we need some real leaders man- some justice

midGet
10-09-2005, 04:32 PM
be happy......you don't know what is it to live in communistic country.....now that was some real shit, those ppl would even lock you down for talkin' shit like this. Actually, when i'm thinking about it....is there any respected leader nowadays? or they're all pussies?

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 04:44 PM
the respected are silenced behind a curtain....

or dead

or sold out

but yo i know a bit bout communist cos my mum came from ex-communist country

Soul Controller
10-09-2005, 05:13 PM
communism and democracy is the same,.,. differant names.. dont get played with that bullshit we lived in a communist country
poverty is still poverty
injustices are the same

they where ideas from the same brain.
with the same end game.

fuck votes especially know when u can vote from home! and u dont ebvem fuckin gota do an ex.. lol u can vote on a computer.. yeah they can really track who u voted for..lol
shit got screwed last time.. (in the states) their was quiet a huge thing about vote rigging on them machines... not to mention the local birmingham ones. where a couple of labour mp's got done for electoral fraud useing them same machines again

they make u feel u r worthwhile
while all the time undermining u

and people still put up wit the bullshit
and blame others..

they got this game (plan) locked down so well

peace

Wooly Noggins
10-09-2005, 05:18 PM
he who controls your food and drink controls your revolution

tostones
10-09-2005, 05:33 PM
Peace Golden_Armz,

Definately interesting to see such information show up in a british tabloid.
I also was not aware of the infant mortality standings.

and to any that feel offended that a british paper would print such things, lol..
don't you know what hundreds of countries think of the US right now?

peace

Soul Controller
10-09-2005, 05:37 PM
he who controls your food and drink controls your revolution
i would have said he who controls your food and drink control your evolution

midGet
10-09-2005, 06:05 PM
communism and democracy is the same,.,. differant names.. dont get played with that bullshit we lived in a communist country
poverty is still poverty
injustices are the same

they where ideas from the same brain.
with the same end game.

fuck votes especially know when u can vote from home! and u dont ebvem fuckin gota do an ex.. lol u can vote on a computer.. yeah they can really track who u voted for..lol
shit got screwed last time.. (in the states) their was quiet a huge thing about vote rigging on them machines... not to mention the local birmingham ones. where a couple of labour mp's got done for electoral fraud useing them same machines again

they make u feel u r worthwhile
while all the time undermining u

and people still put up wit the bullshit
and blame others..

they got this game (plan) locked down so well

peace

yup, you speak truth....but there's at least no censorship, you can freely say/write whatever you want, you can spit all the dirt on government and they can't do shit. You have to work really hard to get/earn something, not just join the (communist) party and enjoy the benefits of it as many ppl did in my country.

Democracy and communism have good & bad sides....there's no doubt...

midGet
10-09-2005, 06:07 PM
Peace Golden_Armz,

Definately interesting to see such information show up in a british tabloid.
I also was not aware of the infant mortality standings.

and to any that feel offended that a british paper would print such things, lol..
don't you know what hundreds of countries think of the US right now?

peace

man, don't want to know exactly ;) I've been to US and I met ppl who are not satisfied with what's goin' on....but also ppl who don't take care....they're well off and that's it. But many ppl don't know how it really is and they put all the americans into one bag.....cause it's the easiest way.

Golden_Armz
10-09-2005, 07:33 PM
Peace tostones, on point brah, n dope sig btw!

ive been to the US too and @ the end of the day people are just people u cant generalise, most r just tryin ta live and are cool- i know the midwest is more brainwashed but i aint bin ive only bin to NY and California- initialy when Bush was voted i was like man are u all on crack??!! but then i reminded myself-this is the government we talkin about-anything is possible.

Peace

TeknicelStylez
10-09-2005, 11:59 PM
be happy......you don't know what is it to live in communistic country.....now that was some real shit, those ppl would even lock you down for talkin' shit like this. Actually, when i'm thinking about it....is there any respected leader nowadays? or they're all pussies?Don't open your mouth so quick I'm from cuba...

Freedom of speech isn't necessary if you can convince the public that theres nothing wrong to publicly speak about, and when people do point stuff out everybody discredits it anyway. Why imprison, beat up, or kill your slaves? Every american has a price and income they bring in, and unless that price is less than the outcome to justify the means, they aren't as expendible.

It's like pimps, you got gorilla pimps that beat hoes into submission, or you got your smooth talking pimp that tricks the hoes into thinking everything cool while he uses them.

Most people with knowledge in the matter, agree the latter of the two is less primitive and more productive.

But in the end your still getting fucked for cash and self worth.

midGet
10-10-2005, 01:54 PM
how long you lived in Cuba? ....cause ppl around here were locked up cause they had Free Europe radio station tuned on.. you couldn't say shit without censorship..and you didn't even get chance to convince ppl that publicly speaking out is nothing wrong, they all knew it's aight, but nobody did that......until november 1989

tostones
10-10-2005, 10:08 PM
ive been to the US too and @ the end of the day people are just people u cant generalise, most r just tryin ta live and are cool- i know the midwest is more brainwashed but i aint bin ive only bin to NY and California- initialy when Bush was voted i was like man are u all on crack??!! but then i reminded myself-this is the government we talkin about-anything is possible.
true, many are just trying to live and act like ostriches in the face of reality.
but the "I'm just trying to live" excuse has funded american exported murder round the globe.
When Bush won the first time the way that he did, I knew we would have him for two terms, regardless of the vote.

peace