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ol dirty abbot
10-08-2005, 08:10 PM
On the intro to makaveli the 7 day theory right in the very beginning before the talking starts in the background you can hear "suge shot me" anyone else notice this?

tajeco
10-08-2005, 08:20 PM
Good observation. I remember people talking about it in 1997. It sounds like he says it if you listen for him to say it, otherwise, he could be saying something else.
Some might say this is old news, but there are people in school right now learning about History. So who really decides what is old news.

triggahappy187
10-08-2005, 09:44 PM
Chyeah he does say that 2 pac is alive main, he woulda came back but he din think anyone was gone figure his scheme out anytime soon.

OnlyBuilt4PuertoRicanLinx
10-08-2005, 10:43 PM
On the intro to makaveli the 7 day theory right in the very beginning before the talking starts in the background you can hear "suge shot me" anyone else notice this?
no he dont say that, this is just a myth. it was on "mtv's big urban myth show" and everythin, they had some scientist guy that works with sounds and shit, and he played it slowly and listended to it mad closly and everythin,and kept listenin to it constantly for like 3 days (and if anythin he works on isnt 100% correct, he can be sent to jail),well he came to the conclusion that tupac didnt say "suge shot me", he said said exactly "he shot me" or somethin like that, i forgot exactly what the guy said, he wasnt even 100% sure what pac said exactly, but he said that hes 100% sure that pac didnt say "suge shot me",and if he did say "he shot me", i dont know who "he" is.

100pr00f
10-08-2005, 10:53 PM
isaw the the same thing but what he said is he dint know
he siad it could be him just talking to some one while in the studio like turn the mic up or any thing of that
shit was just on like 3 weeks ago....he dosnt know

but if u do it ur self
it dose say suge shot me
mess wit the eq turn up the vol and slow it down def starts wit a sh sound

OnlyBuilt4PuertoRicanLinx
10-08-2005, 10:56 PM
isaw the the same thing but what he said is he dint know
he siad it could be him just talking to some one while in the studio like turn the mic up or any thing of that
shit was just on like 3 weeks ago....he dosnt know

but if u do it ur self
it dose say suge shot me
mess wit the eq turn up the vol and slow it down def starts wit a sh sound
wtf? what country do you live in? they cancelled that shit like 3 yearz ago,lol, but nah your wrong, the guy said he didnt say suge shot me,and i remember it sayin at the end of this myth thingy....

"THIS MYTH IS......
FALSE!!!"

because at the end of every myth they would whether its true or false,as the final thing. for nobody can get it twisted.

OnlyBuilt4PuertoRicanLinx
10-08-2005, 10:58 PM
and if anythin go to: www.scopes.com (http://www.scopes.com), (i think thats the site), and look for it, thats a myth site.

youngdeck01
10-09-2005, 01:32 AM
u guys should watch that documentary bout pac n big, i absoluetly believe that suge wanted pac dead, watch taht shit n ull see

100pr00f
10-09-2005, 08:05 AM
wtf? what country do you live in? they cancelled that shit like 3 yearz ago,lol, but nah your wrong, the guy said he didnt say suge shot me,and i remember it sayin at the end of this myth thingy....

"THIS MYTH IS......
FALSE!!!"

because at the end of every myth they would whether its true or false,as the final thing. for nobody can get it twisted.
yes i know it is a old sho they had a thing on 2pac and it showed the show u were talking bout...it was left with a q mark

unsted of a true or false......
u need to re watch it some how

plus any way suge did kill 2pac
if u know the story

2pac was leving suge couse suge owed him 12 mill and suge wasnt giving it to him

he tryed to do the same with snoop dog for leving too
but befor it could happen suge got put in jail......well acculy snoop left wene he was in jail.....thier were sites thea suge made up with a intro of a dog being shot that reresnting snoop dog

u can see 2 day suge still talking shit bout snoop ...dre....em....aftermath
in it self

suge killed big and 2pac..he had bad cops working for him along with crips and bloods


2pac was leving messiges in his raps about suge

watch his documentarys it will explain all of it

midGet
10-09-2005, 08:29 AM
c'moooon, you think everything they say in big urban myth show is real?? LMAO

dooboy
10-09-2005, 03:36 PM
i just put that makaveli in my cd player and it didn't reconise it so i did a album search and it came up with 142 albums!!!!!

yeah the documentry called 'tupac & biggie' is really good and definatly worth watching

G-Gka-Genius
10-09-2005, 07:40 PM
suge is wack

K.E.G.
10-09-2005, 09:41 PM
he has caused you to believe though huh?
2pac IS.
Godbless Tupac.



do not sign to Death Row.......bad networking mesh right off the bat.

iNtell3kT
10-10-2005, 06:36 AM
i just d/led it...and it really does sound like some1 says that.....i duno if thats Pacs voice or what.....but i dunno what it says exactly........

but in the beggining the bells sound like that one song from Pac (im sure pac fans no which on im talkin about) i can bet theres somthing in that song too.........listen to the beat too later on....b4 the bass hits...or the heartbeat.....i wish some1 would look for those things and decipher that shit

J-Cee
10-10-2005, 06:55 AM
Man,did youz ever think it could of been as simple as the guy that they stomped at the casino,done it?or his boyz d0ne it?remember he was a crip who they stomped,and apparently his cousin or somethin owned the same sort of car that was used in the shooting.
i think after they stomped him pac and that went off while the guy they stomped gathered his homies to find pac,they probably knew he was heading to the afterparty so they searched and saw a set of a couple of expensive cars at a traffic light,looks out the window to see suge and pac there so they unload a fukin clip into pacs car.then they are gonnne.
simple.

or if u wanna be on that suge did it shit,suge coulda set it up for some cops with precision shooting to shoot pac while suge was next to him so he couldnt get hit.

many theories n shit,well just never know.

100pr00f
10-10-2005, 07:04 AM
suge

had bloods and crips on his payroll along with cruked cops

100pr00f
10-10-2005, 07:05 AM
just like suge said he got shot while driving wasnt true ...the bullit grazzed him and he was crying like a bitch
it was all a cover up

Wu-Tang 9
10-10-2005, 07:39 AM
yea man, also on Thug Luv w/ Bone Thugs N Harmony, at the begining, Bizzy starts to whisper (Hes alive Hes alvie)...check that out

4-Bar Killer
10-10-2005, 09:38 AM
Yeah I heard about it.. but I heard that it was the Outlaw member Kadafi who said it... it sounds like Kadafi to me.. Kadafi died sum months after 2pacs death... his friend said he shot himself accidentally but his friend was a friend of Suge, and I heard that Kadafi was the only one who knew who the murderer was... I think that Suge was involved in both killings.. I also heard that 2pac and Big had a meeting about a month before pac died where they stopped the beef... that meeting has been confirmed by family members of both pac and big.. so if thats true, I guess that the "Biggie killed 2pac" theory is over...

Welshkillabee
10-10-2005, 09:52 AM
Suge would of had a lot to gain by killing Pac, Pac was working constantly to fulfill his Death Row contract so he could get off the label, Suge wouldnt have been happy about that. Pac was about to start his own label (Makaveli Records) and move out on his own also Pac was owed a lot of money by Suge I read in a book that Pac didnt recieve any money from Death Row only his bail a few cars (that were not his own) and jewellry etc.

Mixtape Mutt
10-10-2005, 10:39 AM
Is this really that unbelievable? Suge killing Pac? Puffy killing Biggie?

They were worth more dead than they were alive. The masses already loved them, they were selling big. With Pac and Biggie out of the way, they keep all the profits of what the sales would bring in. All this shit about Puffy saying "Big was my best friend," yeah...until you killed him. Suge and Puffy keep all the money, maybe give a cut to the family, but the rest is theirs. Just keep releasing unreleased records, remixed records, all that shit and BOOM! They make more money than they did with Big and Pac when they were alive. And Big and Pac weren't all that great. Big was a tad above average, Pac was pretty much trash, his poetry was ok. The masses crowned them the BEST when they died, sparking the East VS West gimmick for record sales, publicity and all that shit. There's tons of artist I can think of that are better than Biggie. A lot of the rappers out (real rappers not the faggot fake bitches) still show him love, that's ok though, show him love. Like Guru said, give credit where credit is due. But they keep that up not to disrespect and lose a chunk of the fanbase. Fuck all of you who are gonna hate on me for saying that shit but it's true and you know it. The truth that sets a man free is the truth that he doesn't want to hear. But back on topic, even Jadakiss said it, dead rappers get better promotion. Better promotion usually leads to more units being pushed, which means more money. Puff and Suge killing Biggie and Pac? It's not that absurd, I don't know if we'll ever know the truth but don't rule out the possibility, the very big possibility, of Suge and Puffy killing Pac and Biggie.

PEACE.

100pr00f
10-10-2005, 10:46 AM
Is this really that unbelievable? Suge killing Pac? Puffy killing Biggie?

They were worth more dead than they were alive. The masses already loved them, they were selling big. With Pac and Biggie out of the way, they keep all the profits of what the sales would bring in. All this shit about Puffy saying "Big was my best friend," yeah...until you killed him. Suge and Puffy keep all the money, maybe give a cut to the family, but the rest is theirs. Just keep releasing unreleased records, remixed records, all that shit and BOOM! They make more money than they did with Big and Pac when they were alive. And Big and Pac weren't all that great. Big was a tad above average, Pac was pretty much trash, his poetry was ok. The masses crowned them the BEST when they died, sparking the East VS West gimmick for record sales, publicity and all that shit. There's tons of artist I can think of that are better than Biggie. A lot of the rappers out (real rappers not the faggot fake bitches) still show him love, that's ok though, show him love. Like Guru said, give credit where credit is due. But they keep that up not to disrespect and lose a chunk of the fanbase. Fuck all of you who are gonna hate on me for saying that shit but it's true and you know it. The truth that sets a man free is the truth that he doesn't want to hear. But back on topic, even Jadakiss said it, dead rappers get better promotion. Better promotion usually leads to more units being pushed, which means more money. Puff and Suge killing Biggie and Pac? It's not that absurd, I don't know if we'll ever know the truth but don't rule out the possibility, the very big possibility, of Suge and Puffy killing Pac and Biggie.

PEACE.
acculty i belive that suge killed big couse the guy with the bowtie that was wittnessd was a cop that was on suge bank account menning he worked for suge
its all in the documntary
puff gave all the money he made to bigs mother and spent some on his up comming cds along with having the big funneral that was held with a big viewing while walking down some blocks in ny were ery body got to see him

i can see suge doing it couse 2 pac has alot more cds comming out after he died

but know e dosnt own 2pacs stuff his mom does 2pacs mom she owns half ....look at the new cds ...it has her name were the copenys are located

Welshkillabee
10-10-2005, 10:50 AM
acculty i belive that suge killed big couse the guy with the bowtie that was wittnessd was a cop that was on suge bank account menning he worked for suge
its all in the documntary
puff gave all the money he made to bigs mother and spent some on his up comming cds along with having the big funneral that was held with a big viewing while walking down some blocks in ny were ery body got to see him

i can see suge doing it couse 2 pac has alot more cds comming out after he died

but know e dosnt own 2pacs stuff his mom does 2pacs mom she owns half ....look at the new cds ...it has her name were the copenys are located
Yup correct

Mixtape Mutt
10-10-2005, 11:44 AM
acculty i belive that suge killed big couse the guy with the bowtie that was wittnessd was a cop that was on suge bank account menning he worked for suge
its all in the documntary
puff gave all the money he made to bigs mother and spent some on his up comming cds along with having the big funneral that was held with a big viewing while walking down some blocks in ny were ery body got to see him

i can see suge doing it couse 2 pac has alot more cds comming out after he died

but know e dosnt own 2pacs stuff his mom does 2pacs mom she owns half ....look at the new cds ...it has her name were the copenys are located
Interesting.

but know e dosnt own 2pacs stuff his mom does 2pacs mom she owns half ....look at the new cds ...it has her name were the copenys are located
Still more profit for Suge, he doesn't have to pay Pac anymore.

shaolin swords
10-10-2005, 12:16 PM
Shit is straight gay. And to the dude who said Pac sucked has got to listen to his shit. Hes one one of my favs. And if Suge was responsible for either death hes fucking who dont deserve to live.

TrueDciple
10-11-2005, 08:36 AM
i heard the track and clearly says suge shot me....but thats not pac's voice, is more like some white guy saying that. And pardon my ignorance but they may did that to make it look like some suge's victim or something..it doesnt necesarily means that suge shot Pac. Im not saying that in reality suge didnt.


Peace!

Gully Reloaded
10-11-2005, 08:49 AM
Who Cares?

Tupac Fucking Sucks.

TrueDciple
10-11-2005, 09:05 AM
Who Cares?

Tupac Fucking Sucks.

U care enough to post in this thread, but do ur self a favor and stay out of threads if u have nothing important to say..or at least a decent comment to make fucker.


War!

4-Bar Killer
10-11-2005, 09:12 AM
i heard the track and clearly says suge shot me....but thats not pac's voice, is more like some white guy saying that. And pardon my ignorance but they may did that to make it look like some suge's victim or something..it doesnt necesarily means that suge shot Pac. Im not saying that in reality suge didnt.


Peace!
yeh thats what I said, I think its Kadafis voice...

Mixtape Mutt
10-11-2005, 11:21 AM
yeh thats what I said, I think its Kadafis voice...
????? Tragedy from QB? The funk?

ol dirty abbot
10-17-2005, 04:34 PM
Is this really that unbelievable? Suge killing Pac? Puffy killing Biggie?

They were worth more dead than they were alive. The masses already loved them, they were selling big. With Pac and Biggie out of the way, they keep all the profits of what the sales would bring in. All this shit about Puffy saying "Big was my best friend," yeah...until you killed him. Suge and Puffy keep all the money, maybe give a cut to the family, but the rest is theirs. Just keep releasing unreleased records, remixed records, all that shit and BOOM! They make more money than they did with Big and Pac when they were alive. And Big and Pac weren't all that great. Big was a tad above average, Pac was pretty much trash, his poetry was ok. The masses crowned them the BEST when they died, sparking the East VS West gimmick for record sales, publicity and all that shit. There's tons of artist I can think of that are better than Biggie. A lot of the rappers out (real rappers not the faggot fake bitches) still show him love, that's ok though, show him love. Like Guru said, give credit where credit is due. But they keep that up not to disrespect and lose a chunk of the fanbase. Fuck all of you who are gonna hate on me for saying that shit but it's true and you know it. The truth that sets a man free is the truth that he doesn't want to hear. But back on topic, even Jadakiss said it, dead rappers get better promotion. Better promotion usually leads to more units being pushed, which means more money. Puff and Suge killing Biggie and Pac? It's not that absurd, I don't know if we'll ever know the truth but don't rule out the possibility, the very big possibility, of Suge and Puffy killing Pac and Biggie.

PEACE.
Mixtape Mutt got crazy visions check it out check it out boom.

tajeco
10-17-2005, 05:04 PM
I think Puffy is evil, he just donates to charity to cover shit up. Remember Puffy's first hit (and only decent song before he turned into a bigger turd) was "Missing You", he sure got rich since Biggie died.

RynMur
10-17-2005, 10:05 PM
See that's why I think Puffy couldn't have anything to do with Big's murder, cuz the money off big's album were given to his daughter where Suge kept all pac's earnings to himself. It's funny that y'all brought up this pac shit too cuz i had a presentation of the indian poet amaru and in my net searching i came across a picture of 2pac's autopsy. i don't know if its fake or not. let me find it.

RynMur
10-17-2005, 10:12 PM
http://www.ewsonline.com/2pac/autopsy11.jpg

King Justice
10-17-2005, 10:27 PM
I def think suge killed pac wit out a doubt as for puffy killin biggie i don't believe that in the least...and anybody ever heard that song By Blac Haze-Let Me Holla At Cha, to me that sounds like a lot like Pac and 2pac said he was gonna make a ressurection what was the name of Blac Haze's Album Ressurection sounds like somethin goin on even if it ain't i don't care (I think he still alive tho, they say they didn't have an autopsy he was cremated immediatley hmmmm...... )

Miliato
10-17-2005, 10:28 PM
i saw that mtv thing where the guy said Pac really said "he" shot or or some shit but if u listen to it.....dont sound like it at all,

the frist word pac says starts wit like a "shh" sound

triggahappy187
10-17-2005, 10:41 PM
Pac isn dead I didn even care to much for Pac back then but I still believe he alive there jus a whole lotta evidence he alive like come on the dude done had a funeral RIGHT after he was supposidly killed. All the theory's I think Pac jus figured cats weren't smart enough to peice things together,