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10-09-2005, 10:16 PM
anybody here ride mountain bikes other than me...? if so post your bike, whether you ride Cross-Country, Urban, Down-hill, Free-ride, All-Mountian, BMX, etc... here's mine: 2004 Haro Extreme X2 all-mountain frame, mostly stock with some '05 components such as the front fork...




10-13-2005, 01:42 PM

Murdah Piff
10-13-2005, 01:50 PM
i bmx, got a chrome dyno i robbed but brakes are fucked. only the front works and you have to squeeze hard

10-13-2005, 02:14 PM
sometimes i gotta all black bmx.

10-14-2005, 09:32 AM
i just comute on a trek 4400 and ride canals and shit in the summer for exercise

10-14-2005, 02:48 PM
i only bike no adays to get places, i have a wicked cool old-school racing bike that i found in the trash and a bunch of peices kept falling off so i replaced them with random parts of other bikes

10-15-2005, 09:13 AM
mountain biking sucks... to much work... ive always been more into shit with engines..

Murdah Piff
10-15-2005, 05:05 PM
mountain biking sucks... to much work... ive always been more into shit with engines.. lazy pussy

08-16-2006, 05:00 PM
Does any1 do it or have 1 post pics of your bikes and stuff.


08-26-2006, 06:50 AM
Looks like its just me then :king:

08-26-2006, 06:51 AM
My Bike:

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8835/picture060nu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cheech Da WildKard
08-27-2006, 05:59 PM
The fuck is pocket bike racing?

08-27-2006, 07:47 PM
When you race round a track with a load of tiny bikes like this guy:


Propa good fun

08-28-2006, 12:40 AM
umm is there ones that go faster than 15 mph?

is there something you can do to hook em up?

08-28-2006, 05:05 AM
you mean one of these?


08-28-2006, 12:00 PM
umm is there ones that go faster than 15 mph?

ha ha
40 mph


09-04-2006, 04:00 PM

09-04-2006, 09:11 PM
lol these guys are in the 20-30's wtf they doing with that

get alot more adrenaline with a real 999cc bike...

Dough Snatcher
09-04-2006, 10:26 PM
Oh so thats what those things are called...

The arabs that run the kangaroo gas station up the steet from my apartment use to sale those things. They would keep like 6-7 of um parked out on the front lawn i guess for display. But they stopped selling them a few weeks ago, because some punk cholos kept stealing them...

But yeah i never knew that was the name of those things. About how much does one of um cost anyway?

09-05-2006, 05:38 AM
In england about £160 for a new 1 but check ebay they go for like £40

netscape check two
08-24-2012, 03:45 PM
-Lance Armstrong banned for life, career vacated


netscape check two
10-10-2012, 02:03 PM
-Eleven teammates turn on Lance Armstrong, testify that he was part of 'sophisticated' doping program


10-11-2012, 12:55 AM
The state of road cycling is a sad affair. Anyone that watches any of the grand tours each year (Tour de France, Giro d'Italia, La Vuelta) are just let down weeks/years later by doping results/scandals. While watching some of the stages over the years, you can almost look back and see miraculous recoveries after the winners (Lance Armstrong, Alberto Contador, Andy Schleck, Floyd Landis, etc.) have struggled tremendously on the stages before they make a breakaway which wins them the tour. Especially in the Alps stages.

Lance killing it after a crash in the Alps

Floyd Landis killing it after the stage before he was dropped

At this point in the game, it only hurts the cycling community to make such a "shitshow" years later of Lance Armstrong. Is he guilty? Probably. Should they strip away his awards. No. It appears that the majority of riders were on some drug enhancements. Many of the runner ups to Lance Armstrong (Jan Ullrich, Alberto Contador, Alexandre Vinokourov) have already been found guilty at one point in their career. The scary part is that none of the drug tests that Lance or his teammates did over the 7 years came back positive for enhancements. His main domestique, George Hincapie, admitted to doping and he was never once suspected or had a false test. So if his team(s) can pass hundreds of tests, I'm sure other teams that had his former riders on it were as well.

netscape check two
10-11-2012, 01:04 AM
nice post

netscape check two
10-15-2012, 11:18 AM
The state of road cycling is a sad affair. Anyone that watches any of the grand tours each year (Tour de France, Giro d'Italia, La Vuelta) are just let down weeks/years later by doping results/scandals. While watching some of the stages over the years, you can almost look back and see miraculous recoveries after the winners (Lance Armstrong, Alberto Contador, Andy Schleck, Floyd Landis, etc.) have struggled tremendously on the stages before they make a breakaway which wins them the tour. Especially in the Alps stages.

Lance killing it after a crash in the Alps

Floyd Landis killing it after the stage before he was dropped

At this point in the game, it only hurts the cycling community to make such a "shitshow" years later of Lance Armstrong. Is he guilty? Probably. Should they strip away his awards. No. It appears that the majority of riders were on some drug enhancements. Many of the runner ups to Lance Armstrong (Jan Ullrich, Alberto Contador, Alexandre Vinokourov) have already been found guilty at one point in their career. The scary part is that none of the drug tests that Lance or his teammates did over the 7 years came back positive for enhancements. His main domestique, George Hincapie, admitted to doping and he was never once suspected or had a false test. So if his team(s) can pass hundreds of tests, I'm sure other teams that had his former riders on it were as well.

why did you edit out all that stuff about your bike and your riding? lol

netscape check two
10-15-2012, 11:19 AM
A $20 bike that could change the world


netscape check two
11-09-2013, 11:43 PM
- Legless cyclist rides for asylum seekers

EL PASO, Texas (AP) — Carlos Gutierrez passed out as the large blade cut through his legs — punishment for his refusal to pay a Mexican gang extortion fees from his successful catering business in northern Mexico.

Four men had forced him into the back of his vehicle at a local park before slicing just under his knees. He spent two weeks in critical condition and sought asylum in Texas as soon as he was able.

Now, facing long odds on getting approval to stay in the U.S., Gutierrez has been staging an unusual demonstration to call attention to his plight and to the thousands of other Mexicans who seek asylum in the U.S. each year from drug cartel violence, with little success. Gutierrez has been riding his bicycle through Texas using his prosthetic legs, talking to everyone he meets.

"If someone from Cuba or from Venezuela can get asylum, why not someone from Mexico?" said Gutierrez, who spent nearly two weeks on his 800-mile bicycle trek from El Paso to Central Texas.

U.S. law allows asylum for those who have credible fear of persecution based on their race, religion, national origin, political status or membership in a particular social group.

But Mexican asylum seekers have struggled to convince U.S. courts they fit in any of these categories, with approval rates running 1 to 2 percent. By contrast, more than a fourth of immigrants from other Latin American countries such as Colombia and Venezuela were granted asylum last year. Many can cite ethnic or political grounds.
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Since he hopped on his bicycle in El Paso on Oct. 28, Gutierrez has been making his case for a change in the system. His journey ended Saturday in Austin.

Along the way townspeople came out from shops and houses to wave and talk with him during rest stops. The 35-year-old endured rain, strong winds, flat tires and fatigue. On the fifth day, a prosthetic specialist met him to adjust his legs because he was bruising and blistering.

"There were times when we thought it'd be best to have him rest, to drive him to the next town to let his legs recover, but he'd say, 'No,'" said Jaqueline Armendariz, a member of the support team for the ride to Austin. "He has a mission."

Gutierrez said he never considered quitting.

It doesn't matter, he said, "how grave your wound was. What matters is that you get up. I have no legs, but I am on my feet."

The U.S. Executive Office for Immigration Review did not specifically comment on Gutierrez's case. However, immigration judges have acknowledged in court that asylum cases based on fear of crime or violence are difficult to make.

"I believe everything you just told me," immigration Judge Stephen Ruhle told a Mexican applicant at a recent hearing in which the man described being targeted by corrupt police officers for extortion money. "But asylum is not applicable to cases like yours."

Some scholars have argued that many applicants should qualify under a looser definition of "social group." A 2010 report by the United Nations' High Commissioner for Refugees said people who, on principle, refuse to pay extortion could be considered a group.

Other experts say the threats to individuals have evolved since asylum categories were defined in treaties after World War II.

"Now, people are fleeing different forms of persecution," said Karen Musalo, director of the Center for Gender and Refugee Studies at the University of California. "There are women fleeing from domestic violence, genital mutilation or honor killings. There are people fleeing from drug cartels and gangs." But others are skeptical. About 9,200 Mexicans sought asylum last year, up from 3,560 in 2008. The increase has prompted some lawmakers to suggest that immigrants are using the asylum system as a backdoor way to stay into the U.S. Applicants often wait more than two years for their court date. Gutierrez's case has been pending since 2011.

Philip Schrag, a professor of public interest law at Georgetown University, said many applications come from Mexicans who have been apprehended crossing illegally into the U.S.

"Many come seeking employment but are not threatened," he said.

Gutierrez has worked in a burrito shop to help support his wife and children while his case goes through the system.

He said he has put his life in Chihuahua behind him.

"I'd rather think about the future," he said.

5th state
06-03-2014, 02:55 PM
Gets interesting at about the 0:20 mark.


EDIT : Thanks mods, for moving this to the appropriate thread.

06-05-2014, 11:46 PM
^ It's always interesting seeing these videos. I liked the rhythm jumps. It ridiculous how that guy is running $2000 rims on his bike (obviously sponsored). I think I read somewhere they go through several sets of wheels filming these videos.

This guy below that released this video last year, broke his neck and is paralyzed. Being into bmx before I got into road riding, it's crazy to see these guys do this on a road bike. Your center of balance flipping and what not is so different than on a bmx which is more trick oriented.


5th state
06-08-2014, 09:47 PM

Defending champion Chris Froome set his mark for the Tour de France with an emphatic time trial victory on stage one of the Criterium du Dauphine.

The eight-day stage race is seen as the traditional warm-up for the three-week Tour, which starts on 5 July.

It began with a short, 10.4km loop around the city of Lyon, but Britain's Froome, 29, managed to beat Spain's Alberto Contador by eight seconds.

"I'm here to win the race, we're going to do everything we can," he said.

Another of Froome's potential Tour de France rivals, Vincenzo Nibali, trailed home eighth, 13 seconds behind.

5th state
06-13-2014, 02:47 PM
My prediction for Tour De France :

3.Jurgen Van Den Broeck.

Jurgen Van Den Broeck was 4th twice. In the other two most recent editions he had to leave because he fell. I strongly believe in him for the third spot. His two first stages in Dauphiné Liberé were excellent. Let's see how he places in the most difficult mountain stage of the Dauphiné...

5th state
06-15-2014, 04:45 PM
Today the Dauphiné Libéré, 'the small Tour De France' ended. Outsider Talansky was part of an early group of escapees who made it past all four mountains. Spanish Sky rider Mikel Nieve won the last stage, but Talansky took the overall victory home, completely unexpectedly! Contador, who was the overall leader yesterday, tried to catch up with the escapees at the very end of the race, but it didn't work out for him.

Podium :
1.Andrew Talansky (he's American btw)
2.Albert Contador
3.Jurgen Van Den Broeck aka 'VDB'

Froome fell yesterday and lost more than 5 minutes today.

VDB was also part of the group of escapees. He managed to go from the 5th to the 3rd spot. Excellent! I'm telling you, this guy is ready for the TDF. His only race before the TDF is the Belgian national championship. He'll be training a lot in the mean time.

Andrew Talansky finished tenth in his TDF debut last year. It looks like the Americans have something to look forward to in the TDF again!

You can watch the last 3 k of the final stage here.
AQDBzCCLn5g (English speaking commentator)

Article & pic here http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/American-Andrew-Talansky-Wins-the-dauphine.html?utm_campaign=rss&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=xmlfeed

06-16-2014, 10:16 PM
It kind of sucks that Wiggins isn't going to the Tour de France. He was out last year with an illness and the prior year he won it. I realize Froome is their GC and would dominate but it would make it interesting. I guess they don't want drama on the team, especially since Wiggins would be ahead after the TT stages and then would lose time in the mountains (which doesn't come until 2/3s of the way through) I'd imagine to Froome. I haven't watched enough racing to know though. I guess there going to put all their eggs in one basket.

I hope Andy Schleck is there and back with some form to challenge the GCs. I can't believe Cadel is still a GC. Give it up.

5th state
06-18-2014, 03:33 AM
It kind of sucks that Wiggins isn't going to the Tour de France. He was out last year with an illness and the prior year he won it. I realize Froome is their GC and would dominate but it would make it interesting. I guess they don't want drama on the team, especially since Wiggins would be ahead after the TT stages and then would lose time in the mountains (which doesn't come until 2/3s of the way through) I'd imagine to Froome. I haven't watched enough racing to know though. I guess there going to put all their eggs in one basket.

I hope Andy Schleck is there and back with some form to challenge the GCs. I can't believe Cadel is still a GC. Give it up.

Your analysis is on point imo! Wiggins is leaving Team Sky, probably heading for Team Orica. I hope he competes in the TDF next year, should make for an interesting duel with Froome.

Just like you I hope Andy Schleck comes through, but truth be told : will he ever reach his old level again? I fear not.

I don't blame Cadel for still trying. At least he's not giving up. But realistically, he will never snatch a top five position in one of the big three rounds again. He's simply too old. But there's no dishonour in placing in the top ten or top fifteen at his age. In the TDF Tejay Van Garderen will be the main man for Team BMC, Cadel will most likely never compete in the TDF again. But not all is well for Team BMC, as Van Garderen did not perform well in the Dauphiné, because of a problem with his hip (dating back to the Tour De Romandie).

06-18-2014, 12:27 PM
Your analysis is on point imo! Wiggins is leaving Team Sky, probably heading for Team Orica. I hope he competes in the TDF next year, should make for an interesting duel with Froome.

Interesting, if there's rumours that he's leaving? The problem is he isn't getting any younger. He'll be 35 next year. It must suck to sit out the biggest race of the year when you're in top form.

Just like you I hope Andy Schleck comes through, but truth be told : will he ever reach his old level again? I fear not.

It's too bad that he hasn't gotten back to his top form since the crash. Looking at the Tour de Suisse results, he doesn't look in too bad of shape. Let's hope he's not letting on how well his form is right now. Nonetheless, I imagine he's still not good at TT and he won't have his brother for the 1-2 punch in the mountains. That made for some exciting mountain stages.

I don't blame Cadel for still trying. At least he's not giving up. But realistically, he will never snatch a top five position in one of the big three rounds again. He's simply too old. But there's no dishonour in placing in the top ten or top fifteen at his age. In the TDF Tejay Van Garderen will be the main man for Team BMC, Cadel will most likely never compete in the TDF again. But not all is well for Team BMC, as Van Garderen did not perform well in the Dauphiné, because of a problem with his hip (dating back to the Tour De Romandie).

I'm not sure how BMC's can back him though as their GC. I guess there's money to be made whether he wins or loses, based off the name alone for the brand. The problem I have will Cadel is that it's all about himself. If TVG turns out to be ahead of Cadel in time and shape, will Cadel work for him? Probably not. Never really been a fan of Cadel since I like guys that attack in the hills.

Hopefully there's some crazy spanish dude that I can get behind. I don't really find myself routing for Froome, Contador, Cadel, TVG, etc.

It's too bad Richie Porte wasn't a domestique and more well-rounded. He looks like he could destroy in the hills if he wasn't working for Froome. Then again, that's all he's there for, so he probably is saving his energy.

5th state
06-26-2014, 01:44 PM
This week and next week most European countries have their national championship races for all categories. Men, women, youngsters (several separate categories for them) in normal races and time trial races.

Some national time trial races have already been ridden this week, for instance in Switzerland (Fabian Cancellara has won his 9th title), Poland (Michal Kwiatkowski) and Holland (Tom Dumoulin).

It's always fun to 'discover' what riders are wearing national jerseys in the Tour De France. I always think it's a shame when a rider wins the national championship race and due to circumstances (e.g. being member of a small team) cannot compete in the Tour De France.

Favorites for the Belgian national championship race are Tom Boonen, Greg Van Avermaet, Jrugen Roelandts and Gianni Meersman.

06-27-2014, 01:16 AM
When does the Tour De France start?

5th state
06-27-2014, 09:40 AM
When does the Tour De France start?

Starts on the 5th of July, ends on the 21st. They always aim for this period because they can include the 14th then, which is France's national holiday. French riders always try their very best to win the stage that day. Since the French don't really have any serious top five contenders, they're aiming for stage wins, this one being the most prestigious one.

The French also traditionally aim for the mountain jersey (best rider in the mountains, with a point system) and the first Frenchman in the overall classification.

This looks like a good site in English for you to keep tabs on what's going on once the Tour starts :


I hope to find time (should be alright) to provide an update once in a while during the Tour.

5th state
07-04-2014, 07:10 PM
In preparation of the Tour De France, here are some fun facts & interesting riders.

First off, for the first time around, cameras whill be installed on steering wheels (or whatever you call them for bikes). This has been tried out in the Tour of California.

Each day four riders on two teams will get the cameras. They are allowed to shut them down should they choose so in situations where secrecy is advised (I hope this does not refer to them injecting themselves with dope).

I was hoping they'd install cameras in the cars too (you know, with the coaches), as they do for some UCI races, but I haven't heard anything about that yet. Probably not going to happen.

Now, for some interesting riders...

1) Ji Cheng, first Chinese rider in the TDF ever. Works for Marcel Kittel, German sprinter.
Rumor has it his idea of showing his team mates around Chinese eating habits is serving them chicken wings in a coca cola sauce. Yummy.

2) Samuel Dumoulin. Shortest rider in the peloton. 159 centimetres. (A little over 5 ft.)Has been for years. Unlike Cheng Ji a fairly well-known and successful rider. Has a good sprint if he goes to the finish line in a small group. Won a stage in the TDF of 2008, for instance.

This pic should give you a good idea of his length.

3) Jens 'der Jensie' Voigt is the oldest. This German rider is 42 years old. He's a real go getter, winning all kinds of stages in all kinds of races. Now he's here simply to help out the team (led by the Schleck brothers). Has six children.

4) Adam Hansen. This Australian rider is famous for his love of riding the three big races. He is on his ninth (!!!) consecutive big race (finishing them all). Meaning that he will have completed the Giro d'Italia, the Tour De France and the Vuelta d'Espana in the same year, three years in a row.

For people who don't follow bike racing very closely, practically no rider does that any more these days.

As you can imagine, Adam Hansen has not come to win the general classification. He is a helper, working for André Greipel, the German sprinter on the Belgian Lotto team.

Doesn't mean he isn't successful. Last year for instance he won a stage in the Giro d'Italia.

Did I mention he has his own shoe manufacturing company too? Which he does the accounting for, even while riding the three big tours. Amazing guy.

5) Mathew Hayman, another Australian rider. The oldest rider to debut in the Tour De France. He's 36, so you see, it's never too late.

Everybody enjoy the Tour De France!

netscape check two
07-04-2014, 08:48 PM
---- 5 things to know about doping at Tour de France

LEEDS, England (AP) — Doping has been an unfortunate part of the Tour de France since its inception in 1903. Instead of today's high-tech performance enhancers like blood-booster EPO, riders juiced up on wine and cocaine, even strychnine, to get a lift in the race.

As the sport went prime-time and grew more competitive and lucrative, the crackdown on doping cheats also intensified — leading to the eventual dethroning of seven-time champ Lance Armstrong, the most famous rider of a tainted era.

Anti-doping testing was introduced at the Tour in the 1960s but did not prevent the death of British rider Tom Simpson on the slopes of the Mont Ventoux in 1967 after he used a lethal cocktail of amphetamines and alcohol.

Here are five things to know about doping before the race starts on Saturday:


Reigning Tour champion Chris Froome drew controversy after a UCI medical supervisor authorized his use of a doctor's note in order to take a corticosteroid to fight a chest infection during the Tour de Romandie this year. Cyclists who suffer from illness can, in some cases, be given such a Therapeutic Use Exemption to use otherwise-banned medication.

Because of that incident, the governing body's TUE panel — not just a single UCI doctor — will from now on examine all such exemptions, the head of cycling's governing body Brian Cookson said Friday, reasoning that "maybe they're all of a potentially controversial nature."

Cookson also said a key lesson for today's competitors from Armstrong's era was that sooner or later, "We will catch you." While he said he couldn't guarantee that new doping cases won't come to light at this Tour, "the radar is being lowered all the time."

In a meeting with two reporters, Cookson said the science and technology involved in catching drugs cheats are improving and sport authorities continue to enhance their anti-doping procedures.

"I think we are closer to the cheats than we have ever been," he said.


PRE-RACE CASES: Two riders who were expected to compete in the Tour were suspended by their teams before the race. Daryl Impey of South Africa, who last year became the first African to wear the leader's yellow jersey, failed a drugs test in February and was removed from the Orica-GreenEdge lineup after the Australian team was notified of the result.

Involved in a case dating back to 2011, Roman Kreuziger — a key climbing lieutenant of Alberto Contador on Tinkoff-Saxo — was dropped by the team because of anomalies in his biological passport detected in 2011 and 2012. The Czech rider, who won the Amstel Gold Race last year, was with Kazakh team Astana at the time. Kreuziger denies any wrongdoing.



The UCI is again teaming up with the French anti-doping agency AFLD to test riders on the Tour. Blood checks will be carried out on all participants before Saturday's first leg from Leeds to Harrogate, the first of three stages in Britain. The British anti-doping agency will also be involved, sharing intelligence and information about the potential cheats.

AFLD will use data from the UCI's biological passport program to target possible cheats, but also information from a special French police unit specialized in the fight against doping.

Some samples will also be kept to be tested in the future — in expectation that detection methods may improve in the future.

No riders tested positive for doping during last year's race, where 622 samples were collected.



Four well-known doping offenders will be at the start line in Leeds:

— Alberto Contador: The joint favorite, with Froome, to win this year's race, Contador was stripped of the 2010 Tour title and was suspended for two years after testing positive for clenbuterol in the final week of the race that year. Contador claimed he ate a contaminated steak bought in Spain.

— Alejandro Valverde: Fellow Spaniard Valverde was handed a two-year suspension in 2010 for his involvement in the Operation Puerto doping plot, which ensnared dozens of riders over secretly stored blood bags. The 34-year-old Valverde is leading Team Movistar, and is regarded as a potential Top-5 finisher.

— Rui Costa: The Portuguese world champion with the Lampre squad tested positive for stimulant methylhexanamine in 2010 following his victory in the national time trial championship. He was given a one-year ban, which was reduced to five months on appeal. He won his third consecutive Tour de Suisse last month.

— Frank Schleck: Schleck, the elder brother of 2010 Tour champion Andy Schleck, missed out on last year's Tour because of a one-year suspension for a positive test for a diuretic during the 2012 race. Last month, the 34-year-old Schleck claimed his fifth Luxembourg champion title.


One of the most outspoken voices against doping, David Millar, will be conspicuously absent this year. The Scottish veteran was denied the chance to compete with the Garmin-Sharp team, which cited his ill health for keeping him out of the roster this year.

Millar, 37, completed a two-year ban in 2006 after confessing that he used the blood-booster EPO, then joined the World Anti-Doping Agency's athlete committee.

5th state
07-04-2014, 09:00 PM
The UCI are a bunch of fags cause they only announced they would tighten the usage of therapeutic drugs since Chris Froome inhaled his ... errr ... inhaler thingy (for asthma) in an interview on TV, instead of using it during the race when no camera was on him.

Last year young Belgian rider Jonathan Breyne attempted suicide after the Tour of China after clenbuterol was detected in his blood. He claimed he was innocent and afterwards tried to commit suicide. Fortunately, he was found in time.

After an extensive investigation the UCI conceded what his & Michael Roger's lawyers (Michael Rogers is a more famous rider who was also considered to be doping during the Tour of China) had claimed all along ... China is known for beefing up beef (ha!) with all kinds of dope, this is how it got into their system. UCI is now advising its riders not to consume meat in China.

As stated, fuck the UCI. They're about as corrupt as FIFA too. Lance Armstrong paid for an antidoping device (some kind of testing machine) for the UCI as a buy off for some test he himself had failed. And the UCI took the bribe.

Long live cycling, fuck UCI. Also, fuck the TDF committee. Because when they catch wind of doping and catch one guy, they urge riders who they suspect of the same kind of dope to silently leave the TDF, on pretenses of being ill (often stomach ache or tendinitis).

5th state
07-05-2014, 12:00 PM
TDF, stage 1 : Leeds - Harrogate (UK)

Pics of the official start in Yorkshire.
http://media3.onsugar.com/files/2014/07/05/742/n/1922398/960a3500ed2f9ef8_thumb_temp_cover_file351540391404 578387.xxxlarge/i/Kate-Middleton-Tour-de-France-2014-Pictures.jpg
Kate Middleton, Prince William and Prince Harry. The rider in the rainbow jersey (on the left) is Portuguese rider Rui Costa. He is the current world champion.
The Sky rider on the right is English/Kenian rider Chris Froome, who won the TDF last year.


Map of the stage.

Ended in a sprint.

1) Marcel Kittel
2) Peter Sagan
3) Ramundas Navardauskas
4) Bryan Coquard
5) Michael Rogers

http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/matchcenter/mc_wielrennen/Comp_Tour_de_France_2014/MF_Tour_de_France_2014_rit_1 (embedded video on that page)

Interesting first stage. Breakaway of 3 riders right from the start : German Jens Voigt (oldest man in the race) and Frenchmen Edet and Jarrier. Edet is last year's mountain king of the Vuelta d'Espana.

The 3 riders had an average lead of about 3 minutes on the peloton. There were 3 hills that counted for the mountain classification. Jarrier won the first uphill sprint because Edet was afraid he would get past Voigt's back too late (the public attendance was enormous, making it hard on the hills for the riders to ride in rows of two or three - it was almost like a real mountain stage in for instance the Alps).

So it seemed that Jarrier and Edet were going to aim for the first mountain jersey since Voigt didn't turn out to be that explosive uphill (remember his age). But Voigt had one over on them. During an official inbetween sprint for the green jersey the Frenchmen allowed him to win that sprint easily (since they were focusing in the mountain jersey themselves) but Voigt noticed he had a small lead and decided to try and escape.

Now Voigt is a very good rider and his plan worked. He quickly took 30 seconds, making his lead bigger as the race went along. In this way he was able to reach the next hills as the first rider, winning him today's mountain jersey.

Shortly after the last hill the peloton caught up with Voigt, who was the last one to be picked up by them.

In the final sprint Cavendish leaned in on Simon Gerrans while trying to pass him, causing them both (and a few others) to fall. Thus the sprint worked out differently. Kittel won convincingly, keeping off Peter Sagan.

Every day a prize is awarded to the rider who showed the biggest will to attack. Today's prize was awarded to Jens Voigt. (There is a classification for this at the end of the tour as well.)

Cavendish will be able to continue tomorrow despite him falling down.

Hope you enjoyed the first stage. Two more stages in the UK. Tomorrow's stage has 9 official hills (which count for the mountain classification). Should be very entertaining!

More vids (including interviews) and pics on the official Tour website here.

5th state
07-05-2014, 07:54 PM
Overview of riders' tweets after the first stage (all but one in English) :

The tweets can be found below the article in Dutch.

UPDATE on Cavendish : he has dislocated his shoulder. He should be alright for tomorrow.

netscape check two
07-06-2014, 12:09 AM
are they all required to wear the daisy duke shorts?

07-06-2014, 12:17 AM
I did 150km's today, 32km/h. I can't imagine doing that for 21 stages, practically straight with 2 rest days thrown in there.

I didn't realize Frank Schleck was back from his 2-year suspension? Wonder where him and his brother are at.

5th state
07-06-2014, 07:50 AM
I did 150km's today, 32km/h. I can't imagine doing that for 21 stages, practically straight with 2 rest days thrown in there.

You must be very fit. 32km/h, respect!

Regarding the Schlecks : word has it they're aiming for a top 5 spot for one of them. Perhaps more realistic for Fränk than for Andy this year.

SECOND UPDATE ON CAVENDISH : Just watched the news and found out British sprinter Marc Cavendish hasn't started in the second stage after all, due to his shoulder injury. This is a major problem for his team, QuickStep, which brought along a few riders just to help Cavendish during his sprints. They still have Tony Martin for his time trial capacities (one time trial in the TDF this year).

@check two : yes, they do. Wouldn't mind seeing the movie version of Daisy Duke cycling along in the peloton. Eye candy's always welcome.

5th state
07-06-2014, 11:56 AM
TDF, 2nd stage (York - Sheffield, UK) :

Won by a solo breakaway in the last 2 kilometers.

1) Vincenzo Nibali (nicknamed the Shark of the Strait of Messina)
2) Greg Van Avermaet (Belgian)
3) Michal Kwiatkowski
4) Peter Sagan (finished second yesterday and remains in the green jersey for best sprinter)
5) Tony Galopin

Since most riders finished in the same group as the winner yesterday (peloton sprint won by Marcel Kittel), Nibali not only won today's stage but also managed to get his hands on the yellow jersery. Kittel himself lost over 14 minutes today as he's a pure sprinter and hills are not his thing at all.

A stage with nine official climbs (counting for the mountain jersey). A group of six escaped right from the start. Belgian Bart Declercq persued them later on, joining the group which then stayed together for a long time. This stage remained entertaining throughout because various riders tried to take the mountain jersey away from Jens Voigt (who remained in the peloton for the whole race, even losing sight of the peloton in the final part of the stage). The French were especially active in trying to win the mountain jersey. The best of them was Blel Kadri, who left his fellow escapees behind in search of the mountain jersey. He took two hills solo, including the most important hill (2nd category climb). But he didn't manage to stay in front of the race afterwards to gain extra mountain points. Thus the mountain jersey went to fellow Frenchman Cyril Lemoin, who had successfully sprinted uphill a few times earlier on in the race.

Frenchmen Pierre Roland (4th in this year's Giro d'Italia) and Jean-Christophe Péraud attacked in the final 15 kilometers, leaving behind the peloton (which consisted of only about 25 riders anymore, including all the riders who are aiming for the QC at the end of the TDF). However, they had attacked too early. Roland lasted the longest, but the peloton eventually took him back.

About 5 km before the finish line there was another nasty climb. Last year's overall TDF winner Chris Froome tried to break away, wanting to conquer the yellow jersey in his home country. However, the other GQ riders managed to stay with him.

A few more riders tried to escape in the next few km, but were taken back almost instantly. Vincenzo Nibali, GQ rider for this TDF (and winner of the 2010 Vuelta d'Espana and the 2013 Giro d'Italia) then broke away and was successful.

The peloton almost got to him in the last few hundred meters, but he still pulled it off. The peloton then sprinted for the second place, with Greg Van Avermaet beating Michal Kwiatkowski[/b].

UPDATE : video, pics and English comments for this stage on the TDF's official website here :

Tomorrow's stage will take us to London. It will be the last stage on British soil.

5th state
07-06-2014, 12:50 PM
Stage 1 : Marcel Kittel

Marcel Kittel is a young German sprinter. He was very successful in last year's edition of the TDF, winning a surprising 4 stages. Two weeks before the TDF national championships are organized. Marcel Kittel didn't win the German championship. André Greipel, another sprinter, won it. Greipel participates in this year's TDF as well.

Kittel, Greipel and Cavendish are considered the three best sprinters of the world. Cavendish has already left the TDF due to a shoulder injury.

Kittel won the opening stage last year as well, which allowed him to wear the yellow jersey (as he did today).

Kittel has won stages in all 3 major rounds (the TDF, the Giro d'Italia and the Vuelta d'Espana). He has won stages in a lot of smaller races as well, including the so-called 'unofficial world championship for sprinters', the Scheldeprijs (a Belgian race which sprinters are very fond of).

Kittel has been on a roll this year, winning stages in the Tour of Oman, the Scheldeprijs (third consecutive victory) and a stage in the Giro d'Italia.

Kittel is aiming for more stage wins (sprints) and possibly the green jersey. This is the jersey for best overall sprinter. His biggest competitor for that jersey is last year's winner of that competition, Peter Sagan.

Kittel's difficulty in winning the green jersey competition is that he's very bad in mountain stages, unlike Peter Sagan.


5th state
07-06-2014, 01:00 PM
Stage 2 : Vincenzo Nibali

Nibali is a completely different kind of racer when compared to Kittel. Whereas Kittel is a sprinter, Nibali is an all around good rider who performs very well in mountain stages. Nibali is this year's Italian champion. Nibali has won the GQ of two major rounds in his career, the Vuelta d'Espana (2010) and the Giro d'Italia (2013). Nibali has also won the smaller Italian multi-stage race Tirreno-Adriatico twice.

He decided to aim for the GQ in the TDF this year. (Riders do not usually ride all three major rounds in the same year.)

Unlike Kittel, Nibali has been considered not to have performed well this year. (IIRC only one victory before the TDF this year.) He is under a lot of pressure from his team. His team manager sent him a letter a few weeks ago, saying management expected more from him. But Nibali has kept on working towards the TDF. He reached his peak form very recently, winning the national championship two weeks ago and winning today's stage of the TDF.

He runs the risk of reaching peak form too soon, which might prove to be his downfall in the third week of the TDF.

In the pic below you can see Vincenzo Nibali wearing the pink leader jersey of last year's Giro d'Italia.



5th state
07-06-2014, 02:24 PM
Watch the last kilometer of the second stage.
http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/videozone/sporten/v-wielrennen/TourDeFrance/Tour_Nieuws_verslagen/MV_140706_tour_rit2_laatste_kilometer%2B?playlist= 7.50144

5th state
07-06-2014, 02:26 PM
Footage from cameras mounted on bike steering wheels in TDF.

5th state
07-06-2014, 02:34 PM
Interview in English with last year's green jersey winner Peter Sagan.

Footage from the last climb of today's stage (5 km before the finish)
(Dutch commentators.)

netscape check two
07-07-2014, 01:30 PM


5th state
07-07-2014, 04:13 PM
TDF, third stage (Cambridge-London)

Short stage (155 km), ended in a sprint.

1. Marcel Kittel
2. Peter Sagan
3. Mark Renshaw
4. Bryan Coquard
5. Alexander Kristoff

All of the above are established sprinters. Mark Renshaw is usually Cavendish' leadout man (= last rider to stay in front of his sprinter, has to accelerate in the last few hundred meters), but since Cav' has left the TDF, Renshaw now functions as his substitute in sprints.

The man who placed fifth, Norwegian Alexander Kristoff, has won this year's Milan-San Remo, a very important Italian race.

This was quite an uneventful stage. The first breakaway was the right one : Czech Jan Barta and Frenchman Jean-Marc Bideau broke away early and stayed away until the final five kilometers. By then Barta had just left behind a very tired Bideau, but to no avail. The peloton caught up with Barta and we were in for another sprint.

André Greipel's Lotto Team had chased Barta and Bideau for the previous twenty kilometers and now didn't seem to have enough punch left to get their sprint train to function properly. Fellow German Marcel Kittel's sprint train on the other hand worked perfectly. His team mates dropped him off right where he wanted to start sprinting. Peter Sagan tried to close in on Kittel, but he didn't succeed.

This marks Kittel's second stage victory in this year's TDF. Is he the fastest sprinter? Sure looks like it.

Because Barta left Bideau behind in a desperate attempt to keep the peloton behind him he was awarded the daily prize of keenest attacker.

Since GQ leader Vincenzo Nibali finished in the first group, he was able to keep the yellow jersey in his possession. Peter Sagan still has the green jersey (best sprinter), Frenchman Cyril Lemoin was able to hold on to his coveted polka-dot jersey (best climber) as well. The white jersey for best placed rider under the age of 26 went to Frenchman Romain Bardet. Best placed team (= GQ result for the best three riders on a team) is Chris Froome's Team Sky.

Once again lots of people had gathered to catch a glimpse of the riders, unfazed by the rainy weather (which caused a few riders such as Belgian Jan Bakelants, winner of a stage in last year's TDF, and Luxemburg climber Andy Schleck to fall, fortunately without any dire consequences).

Tomorrow's stage is the first one in France. (In case you're wondering, the teams get to France by plane.) The riders will go from Le Touquet-Paris-Plage (this is not Paris btw) on the coast to Lille. These cities are both in the north of France. It's another flat stage.

Will there be another sprint? Or will one rider or a group of riders stay in front of the peloton? We'll find out tomorrow...

Watch today's sprint here.
The above webpage also includes pictures.

You can read a few tweets by teams and individual riders at the bottom of the linked page.

5th state
07-08-2014, 11:59 AM
TDF, 4th stage : Le Touquet-Paris-Plage to Lille

So the TDF has finally arrived in France. This was a flat stage, won in a sprint.

1. Marcel Kittel
2. Alexander Kristoff
3. Arnaud Démare
4. Peter Sagan
5. Bryan Coquard

Andy Schleck (winner of the TDF 2010 after original winner Alberto Contador was disqualified because of doping) didn't start today. He was one of quite a few riders who fell yesterday on the way to London. Personally, I think Andy Schleck's days are a top rider are over. He is mentally fragile and tends to give up whenever something bad happens to him.
Andy Schleck

There was an accident in the peloton again today early on the race, with perhaps the peloton's most high profile rider : Chris Froome, winner of last year's TDF, fell in the beginning of this stage. Fortunately, he wasn't hurt badly and was able to continue.
Chris Froome

Meanwhile, the traditional breakaway had already formed. Today's escapees were France's most popular rider Thomas Voeckler and Spanish rider Luis Angel Maté.
Voeckler (on the right, this is not a pic from the actual stage) is a former French national champion, temporary bearer of the yellow jersey in the TDF about ten years ago and winner of various stages in the TDF. Although he is a fan favorite in his home country quite a few riders and commentators slightly dislike him because he is very aware of the cameras, which seems to influence his behavior. The pic above is typical of him... People say that as soon as Voeckler spots the camera, he makes 'suffering faces'.
Luis Angel Maté is relatively unknown. He rides for French team Cofidis.

Voeckler and Maté never managed to get a very big lead on the peloton. Towards the final part of the stage Voeckler left Maté behind. Voeckler was able to stay in front of the race until 15 kilometers before the finish line.

There was another accident in the peloton, causing three riders to fall, all members of Belgium's Lotto Team. New Zealander Greg Henderson had to give up because he was too badly injured. His Belgian team mate Bart Declercq (who was member of a breakaway earlier on in this TDF) was injured rather badly too, but was able to continue. Declercq is mainly a rider for the mountain stages. Fortunately, he has a few days left until 'his' stages come up. Danish rider Lars Bak was able to continue as well after having fallen.
Greg Henderson, lead out man for sprinter André Greipel.

The sprint was very interesting this time around. It seemed as if Mark Renshaw was going to win the stage with 600 meters to go. His sprint train was very strong and had brought him to the front of the peloton at the right spot in the sprint. But Renshaw (who is normally a lead out man for Cavendish) isn't very 'explosive' (as they say in cycling) and didn't manage to jump out of the pack 300 meters later.
Mark Renshaw

About 100 meters later sprint favorite Marcel Kittel didn't see the finish line and started sprinting too early (not in the first position of the peloton, though), 500 meters away from the finish line. As soon as he realized this, he waited and started sprinting again at the 250 meters mark. Meanwhile, Norwegian sprinter Alexander Kristoff held the second spot in the peloton, only preceded by a lead out team mate.
Alexander Kristoff.

Kristoff's sprint train was one man short so Kristoff was left without any team mates at about the 400 meters mark, leading the peloton. In normal circumstances, this is way too early for a sprinter to still win the stage. But Kristoff made the best of it and lead until the very last 20 meters. Only then Marcel Kittel passed him. Kittel was so tired he didn't even throw his arms up in the air to celebrate.

Sprinter André Greipel finished 6th, due to his sprint train being shaken up by the accident mentioned above.

This marks Kittel's third stage win in this TDF. Overall, he has won 7 stages in TDFs. As many as his famous compatriots Rudi Altag (back in the 60s) former overall TDF winner Jan Ullrich (in the 90s).


There were no important changes in the GQ. Italian Vincenzo Nibali gets to keep the yellow jersey (= overall leader). Peter Sagan, who finished 4th today, keeps his green jersey (best sprinter) as well. In case you're wondering why Sagan still has this jersey while Kittel is winning so many stages... There are also sprints during the stage, next to the final sprint. These smaller sprints also count for the green jersey classification. Cyril Lemoin gets to keep the polka-dot jersey (best climber). There were only 2 small hills (4th category, which is the lowest category) in today's stage.
Peter Sagan in the green jersey.

Tomorrow's stage will be the most interesting stage yet. It incorporates some of the infamous cobble stone roads of the classic French one day race Paris-Roubaix. Normally, tomorrow's stage will not end in a sprint. We will get to see other kinds of riders in the lead, those who are used to riding 'the classics' in spring (Tour of Flanders, Paris-Roubaix etc.)

It is no secret that the GQ favorites are afraid of tomorrow's stage. They cannot win the TDF there, but they can sure lose it there. If there are strong winds, chances are the peloton gets split up into various big parts. The GQ favorites have to make sure they are all in the first part of the peloton. Because of the cobble stones more riders will fall tomorrow too. The GQ riders have to be attentive all day, trying to avoid being involved in accidents in the peloton.

All GQ riders have explored this stage beforehand, with their whole team, including specialist cobble stone riders. Some of them were shown around by retired riders who have won Paris-Roubaix.

This two-and-a-half-minute video captures the atmosphere of Paris-Roubaix perfectly and shows you what tomorrow's stage is all about.

5th state
07-09-2014, 09:23 AM
This just in... Seems I was too harsh on Andy Schleck. A check up in the hospital revealed a serious knee injury. In fact, he has just been operated on.

07-09-2014, 02:16 PM
Well, I guess Team Sky got what they deserved for putting all their eggs in one basket.

Hoping that Richie Porte can take this opportunity to shine, now that he does not have to be someone's domestique. Hopefully he can put some of the other top GC riders into some bad situations once they get to the Alps.

Unfortunately, I haven't watched any stages. Sounds like I'm missing out on some good action.

5th state
07-09-2014, 08:54 PM
^^Porte can definitely do his own thing now, but personally I think 3 weeks might be just a bit too long for him. I agree with you that the one leader tactic for a team is very risky. Team Sky should have been able to convince Bradley Wiggins to participate in the TDF as well.
Richie Porte

TDF, 5th stage : Ypres (Belgium) - Arenberg (France)
The most feared stage of them all for GQ riders... And indeed, this stage did deliver. Drama abounded. The stage was meant to be a smaller version of the spring classic race Paris-Roubaix, with its characteristic cobble stone roads. Lots of riders are unfamiliar with these kinds of circumstances. Most Italian and Spanish riders have practically no experience with cobble stone roads. To add insult to injury the weather was really bad. (Riding on dry cobble stone roads is immensely different from riding on wet ones, because the latter are extremely slippery.)

Because of the incessant rainfall and strong winds ASO (the organization behind the TDF) decided to skip two of the nine cobble stone roads one hour before the race started. Predictably, some teams were fiercely angry (those teams with cobble stone specialists who were aiming for the stage win). Swiss rider Fabian Cancellara (multiple winner of Paris-Roubaix and the Tour of Flanders) was especially venomous in an interview for Belgian TV, claiming 'the ASO has done its job in a half-assed way'. Teams with GQ hopefuls on the other hand were happy those 2 cobble roads (a total of 3 1/2 km) were skipped as they feared their main riders risked falling, having a flat tyre and thus losing a lot of time for the GQ.
Fabian Cancellara

In pre-stage interviews riders predicted it would be a quick race because of the strong wind. This proved to be true as the average speed in the first hour of the stage was a whopping 49km/h. Pretty soon after the official start a breakaway formed, consisting of Frenchmen Samuel Dumoulin and Tony Gallopin, Australian spring classic specialist Mathew Hayman, young Australian rider Simon Clarke, Dutch allrounder Lieuwe Westra(team mate of yellow jersey Vincenzo Nibali and winner of a stage in this year's Dauphiné Libéré, the so-called 'small Tour de France'), German multiple time trial world champion Tony Martin, German spring classic specialist Marcus Burghardt and odd men out Estonian climber Rein Taaramae and Colombian climber Janier Acevedo, who both showed their inexperience with cobble stone roads pretty quickly.

Due to the torrential rain riders were falling at an alarming pace. One of them was last year's TDF GQ winner Chris Froome, who had already fallen yesterday as well. In fact, Froome fell twice in the early part of this stage and decided to give up. Surrounded by cameras he got into the team car, stilling wearing his helmet, obviously confused and shaken up. Too bad we had to say goodbye to one of this year's main contestants.
Chris Froome (picture taken after his first fall yesterday)

Meanwhile Team Astana, which yellow jersey Vincenzo Nibali belongs to, were riding as fast as possible at the forefront of the peloton, trying to gain an advantage on Chris Froome, who had just fallen for the first time. Because of the high speed and the cobble stone roads the peloton split into several parts, with important riders like Spanish hopefuls Alberto Contador (former winner of the TDF) and Alejandro 'El Imbatide' Valverde and American Teejay Van Garderen ending up in the background, losing precious time to GQ favorites Vincenzo Nibali, Belgian Jurgen Van Den Broeck and American Andrew Talansky (overall winner of this year's Dauphiné Libéré).

The first part of the peloton also included other notable riders such as - quite surprisingly- polka-dot jersey Cyril Lemoine and cobble stone specialists Fabian Cancellara,Sep Van Marcke, Lars Boom (a Dutchman who is a former world champion of off road cycling, a sport which is mainly popular in the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy and Switzerland) and green jersey Peter Sagan.
Lars Boom

An enormous amount of riders took a (often spectacular) dive or had a puncture during the stage, making both the breakaway group and the various parts of the peloton increasingly smaller. While yellow jersey Vincenzo Nibali was able to keep various team mates on board in the first part of the peloton (including a very impressive Jacob Fuglsang), GQ favorites Andrew Talansky and Jurgen Van Den Broeck fell and had to join later parts of the split up peloton.
Vincenzo Nibali
Andrew Talansky
Jurgen Van Den Broeck

In the second half of the race the first part of the peloton caught up with the breakaway. T[his group then rode together for quite a few kilometers, until Lars Boom, Vincenzo Nibali, Lieuwe Westra and Jakob Fuglsang left the other riders behind on one of the last cobble stone roads.
Lieuwe Westra, who won today's prize for rider who attacked most fiercely

Lieuwe Westra gave it his all for his GQ team mate Nibali, as did Fuglsang. Their plan was to gain as much time as possible on all of the other GQ favorites, specifically their biggest threat, Alberto Contador. They were not interested in the stage win (after all, Nibali has already won a stage in this year's TDF) and of course Lars Boom realized this. On the last cobble stone road Boom rode as fast as he could and left the others behind.

Boom won the stage with a lead of 19 seconds on Fuglsang and Nibali. This marks Boom's first stage win in the TDF ever, and the first victory for a Dutchman in the TDF since 2005 (back then Dutch climber Pieter Weening won a stage). Boom is a good rider who (amongst quite a few other races) won a stage in the Vuelta d'Espana earlier on in his career.

This stage was full of surprises :
*Nobody had expected yellow jersey Vincenzo Nibali to excell on cobble stone roads, but he did. He was even able to leave behind absolute stage win favorites (cobble stone specialist riders) Fabian Cancellara and Peter Sagan.
*Last year's overall TDF winner Chris Froome abandoned the race today.
*There were even more accidents in the peloton than expected today. Chances are it will take ten years or more before the ASO (TDF organization) decides to include this kind of stage again.

5th state
07-09-2014, 09:47 PM
Find tweets and videos of this amazing 5th stage of the TDF here :

and here

5th state
07-09-2014, 09:52 PM
A lot has changed in the GQ today. It includes very significant changes for the GQ at the end of the TDF in two weeks. Let's have a look...

1 ITA Vincenzo Nibali AST 20u26'46"
2 DEN Jakob Fuglsang AST +2" (team mate of Nibali)
3 SLW Peter Sagan CAN +44" (still wears the green jersey, also nr 1 in the white jersey classification now)
4 POL Michal Kwiatkowski OPQ +50" (2nd in the white jersey classification)
5 SWI Fabian Cancellara TFR +1'17"
6 BEL Jurgen Van den Broeck LTB +1'45"
7 FRE Tony Gallopin LTB +1'45"(first Frenchman, very important to the French)
8 AUS Richie Porte SKY +1'54"
9 US Andrew Talansky GRS +2'05"
10 SPA Alejandro Valverde MOV +2'11"
11 FRE Romain Bardet ALM +2'11"
12 US Tejay van Garderen BMC +2'11"
13 POR Rui Costa LAM +2'11" (current world champion)
14 GBR Geraint Thomas SKY +2'16"
15 FRA Thibaut Pinot FDJ +2'25"
16 NED Tom Dumoulin GIA +2'25"
17 RUS Joeri Trofimov KAT +2'25"
18 NED Bauke Mollema BEL +2'27"
19 SPA Alberto Contador TCS +2'37"
20 BEL Jan Bakelants OPQ +2'39"

Other supposed contestants for the GQ can be forgotten about now, as they are already far behind. I'm referring to riders such as ...
*last year's Vuelta d'Espana winner Chris Horner, an American rider (who's already 42 years old btw)
*Pierre Roland, a Frenchman who earned the 4th spot in this year's Giro d'Italia
*Luxemburger Fränk Schleck (former top 10 TDF rider)
*Spanish rider Joaquim Rodrigez (last year nr 3 in TDF, but he's just competing now to prepare for this year's Vuelta d'Espana)

5th state
07-09-2014, 10:12 PM
ANALYSIS OF TODAY'S GQ - who realistically still has a shot at winning the TDF?
Leaving out the names of 'domestiques' (helpers of GQ riders) and riders who will not make an impression in the mountain stages at all, we are left with the following riders from the GQ top 20...

1 ITA Vincenzo Nibali AST 20u26'46"

4 POL Michal Kwiatkowski OPQ +50"

6 BEL Jurgen Van den Broeck LTB +1'45"

8 AUS Richie Porte SKY +1'54"

9 US Andrew Talansky GRS +2'05"

10 SPA Alejandro Valverde MOV +2'11"

11 FRE Romain Bardet ALM +2'11"

12 US Tejay van Garderen BMC +2'11"

13 POR Rui Costa LAM +2'11" (current world champion)

15 FRA Thibaut Pinot FDJ +2'25"

16 NED Tom Dumoulin GIA +2'25"

17 RUS Joeri Trofimov KAT +2'25"

18 NED Bauke Mollema BEL +2'27"

19 SPA Alberto Contador TCS +2'37"

Having a closer look at the list above, I can tell you riders like Trofimov and Dumoulin will not likely improve their GQ slot over the course of the TDF. Kwiatkowski will probably lose (quite) a few slots, since he doesn't perform well on the really high mountains.

Then there are dark horses like Bardet, Porte, Costa and Pinot. Some analysts say Costa is a top 5 contender this year (as he is no longer part of Valverde's team and can do his own thing). This might be the case, but Costa has already spent a lot of his resources on winning this year's Tour of Switzerland. We'll see. As for Bardet and Pinot, one of them will likely end up being the first Frenchman in the overall GQ at the end of the TDF (a big thing for the French - which is kind of sad if you think about it, as it seems more of a consolation prize), but it is difficult to predict whether they will end up in the actual top ten, or rather in top 15 or top 20. The biggest mystery is probably Richie Porte, who might do really well (top 3 or top 5) or might have one or two complete off days in the mountain stages in the final week of the TDF.

This leaves us with the following names to really pay attention to in the next two weeks (next to the aforementioned Porte):

Van Den Broeck

These are all riders who have already proven they can take a top 3, top 5 or top 10 spot in the GQ of the TDF.

Contador will of course end up much higher than he is now, as he is the overall best climber of the peloton. But he's already lost 2 and a half minutes to Nibali and about one minute to Van Den Broeck. They are also very good climbers (Nibali being slightly better than Van Den Broeck.)

Exciting stuff!

The riders will race to Reims. This will very probably be an uneventful stage, most likely ending in a sprint. Will Marcel Kittel win his 4th stage? Or will this be Peter Sagan or André Greipel's first one? We'll find out soon enough...

5th state
07-10-2014, 02:07 PM
TDF, 6th stage : Arras - Reims
This stage in the Champagne region ended in a sprint.

1 André Greipel
2 Alexander Kristoff
3 Samuel Dumoulin
4 Mark Renshaw
5 Peter Sagan

German sprinter and current national champion André Greipel has finally won his first stage in this year's TDF. Last year he won only one stage in the TDF. Let's see if he gets to win more stages this year. However, to find that out we'll have to be patient as for the next ten days hilly stages, mountain stages and a day of rest are on the menu.

As predicted by analysts and riders this was quite the uneventful stage, except for the many accidents in the peloton. This is typical TDF stuff by the way : there's always a huge amounts of accidents in the first week, due to every rider being very nervous, wanting to be in the first part of the peloton. And then there's the pressure on each team to win a stage in the year's biggest race...

The most important riders who fell today were GQ rider Jurgen Van Den Broeck (remains 6th in the GQ) and current green jersey Peter Sagan, who coincidentally both fell in yesterday's epic stage as well. But they weren't too beat up and were able to continue. As you can see above Sagan even sprinted for the stage victory, earning his 6th top five spot in 6 stages! No wonder he's wearing the green jersey at the moment, leading with an impressive bonus of 80 points. On the other hand, he doesn't look very happy whenever he's called on stage to receive his green jersey after the race. I'm sure he thought he would have won a stage by now.
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Peter+Sagan+Tour+California+Stage+6+keDXXekBwKYl.j pg
Slovakian rider Peter Sagan.

But Sagan will get his chance tomorrow, as the last few kilometers contain two hills which fit his profile (sprinter who is strong uphill too) perfectly.

Quite a few cyclists either gave up today or simply didn't start (due to all of yesterday's accidents). Since no big names are involved I will spare you the names. It might be important to note that one of Contador's team mates (Hernandez) gave up, so that means less help for Alberto Contador.
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Alberto+Contador+Le+Tour+de+France+Stage+18+FZMcAy Wbl8sl.jpg
Alberto Contador (winner of all three major rounds by the age of 25!)

Today's breakaway group consisted of four riders: Tom Leezer (Dutch), Luis Angel Mate (Spanish), Jérôme Pineau and Arnaud Gérard (both French). These riders led the race for a very long time, but at about 20 kilometers before the end the peloton caught up with them.
Jerome Pineau, the most well known rider of today's breakaway group. He is a former temporary bearer of the polka-dot jersey.

As the peloton was preparing for yet another sprint, Team Omega Pharma (which has lost sprinter Cavendish) decided to ride EVEN FASTER than everybody else. Since the wind was strong in this open area (low fields all over the place), the peloton was thus split up into various parts. This is of course what Team Omega Pharma had wanted all along.

While practically everybody on their team was still in the first group, some sprinters like Arnaud Démare and 3 time stage winner Marcel Kittel ended up in one of the other groups. What Team Omega Pharma did, not only suited its replacement sprinter Mark Renshaw, but it was also beneficial for its Polish GQ rider Michal Kwiatkowski (overall 4th at the moment, last year he snatched the overall 11th spot in the GQ at the young age of 23).

Kwiatkowski was hoping some of the other GQ riders would end up in one of the smaller groups behind the first part of the peloton. However, this only happened to Frenchman Thibaut Pinot (ended 10th in the 2012 edition of the TDF). He ended up losing about 40 seconds to all of the other GQ riders and is no longer part of the top 20 of the GQ.
Thibaut Pinot

Since Team Omega Pharma knew their replacement sprinter wasn't good enough to leave the real top sprinters behind at the finish line, they then proceeded to execute the second part of their attack plan... With only about a kilometer left Michal Kwiatkowski himself jumped out of the peloton, hoping to get away from the sprint and winning the stage. While he was strong, the sprinters did catch up with him eventually and we were set for a real sprint. Without Kittel and Démare.
Michal Kwiatkowski

None of the sprinters had many team mates left to get their own 'sprint train' going, so this sprint was more of a one on one battle, so to speak. German André Greipel eventually won the stage, leavingNorwegian Alexander Kristoff and the other sprinters behind. The finish photo showed a clear difference between Greipel and the other sprinters.

The top 10 of the GQ has remained the same, with Vincenzo Nibali wearing the yellow jersey. The green and polka-dot jersey are still for Peter Sagan and Cyril Lemoine. Lemoine is riding really strong these days. He has ended up in the first part of the peloton in most stage so far. It will be interesting to see how long he can keep this up.

You can find pictures and videos of the stage here

and riders' tweets here

Tomorrow's stage might be more exciting, as it includes some hills close to the finish line.

5th state
07-11-2014, 06:38 AM

Peter Sagan has an extra set of eyes. Check the vid here



The most spectacular stage so far was the fifth. ASO has now made footage available of the cameras mounted on the steering wheels of various riders in that stage. Interesting! Feels as if you're right there in the peloton with the riders, in apocalyptic conditions.


07-11-2014, 09:14 AM
people watch this?

5th state
07-11-2014, 10:10 AM
^^It's very popular in Europe, especially West Europe.

Don't know about the US these days. Maybe publicity has waned since LA retired and it was proven he had doped?

Are you located in the US?

netscape check two
07-11-2014, 10:27 AM
Greg Lemond is popular in the US. Does he still race?

5th state
07-11-2014, 12:36 PM
LeMond raced in the eighties and early nineties. He stopped racing in the mid nineties.

Early on in his career LeMond became world champion (first American to ever do so). Later on he won the TDF 3 times. (He's still the only American who has OFFICIALLY won the TDF, as LA & Floyd Landis lost their victories because of doping.)

There was a large gap in between LeMond's TDF victories because of a freak accident he was involved in. I think his brother-in-law accidentally shot him on a hunting trip. He was very close to dying.


LeMond won the most exciting TDF ever in 1989. His big rival and two time TDF winner Laurent Fignon (a French rider nicknamed 'the Professor' because of his glasses) entered the final stage, a time trial, with a 50 second lead.
Laurent Fignon, easily recognizable with his long blonde hair and glasses.

Fignon was an established time trialist, had already won his two TDFs, so everybody thought he would surely win his third TDF at that moment. However, LeMond had extensively tested his riding position (= aerodynamic position on the bike) in winter AND he had opted for the latest technology in aerodynamica, including a full rear wheel, clip-on bars on his steering wheel and an aerodynamic helmet. Back then aerodynamica wasn't a big thing yet in cycling. LeMond introduced a lot of new technology into the peloton.

LeMond rode the time trial of his life and won the TDF with the smallest margin ever : 8 seconds. Upon realizing his loss Fignon collapsed on the tarmac and started weeping.


Laurent Fignon died from cancer in 2010.

LeMond was my favorite rider in my childhood.

5th state
07-11-2014, 12:48 PM
TDF, stage 7 : Epernay-Nancy
It was a bad day for the Americans in this long stage (234 km). Both Tejay van Garderen and Andrew Talansky (both aim for a spot in the top 10 in the GQ) fell. Talansky is 8th in GQ, van Garderen is a few slots lower now and is overall 18th.

Tejay Van Garderen

Andrew Talansky

Today's stage was won in a sprint.

1 Matteo Trentin ITA
(Picture of his TDF stage win in Lyon last year.)
2 Peter Sagan SLW
3 Tony Gallopin FRA
4 Tom Dumoulin NET
5 Simon Gerrans AUS

I have been writing a lot about Peter Sagan. I feel I have to mention him again. He has finished in the top 5 in all stages so far, without actually winning. This marks the third time he ends up in the 2nd slot. By now his lead in the green jersey classification is huge (a lead of over 100 points). He is also still in possession of the white jersey (classification for youngsters).
Peter Sagan performing his trademark 'wheelie' after a stage win in a famous race in Belgium earlier this year.

So what happened today?

Six riders attacked today: Edet, Elmiger, Pichot, Delaplace, Huzarski and Busche. Edet attacked in the first stage as well. They didn't gather a big lead as knew his chances of winning today's stage were very high. The final climb a few kilometers before the finish line was just his cup of tea. His plan would be to escape there on his own and last until the finish line. So Sagan had his team mates work hard to get back the breakaway group.

[b]Tejay van Garderen fell in the peloton due to careless behavior of one of his team mates riding in front of him. Fortunately, he was able to continue, but he had to ride one of his team mates' bike. (That makes a huge difference.) Three of his team mates waited for him and tried to bring him back to the peloton but it was too late. At the end of the stage van Garderen had lost just over a minute to all of the important riders in the GQ.

On the first of today's two hills, at about 17km to the finish line there were only 2 leaders left: Swiss champion Martin Elmiger and Polish rider Bartosz Huzarski. The peloton caught up with them at the beginning of the climb. Since this climb was rather steep (although short) a lot of riders, including some sprinters, couldn't keep up with the pace of the peloton.
Martin Elmiger.

Near the end of the climb Belgian rider Greg Van Avermaet (who placed 2nd in the 2nd stage) jumped out of the peloton. He had already announced on Belgian TV he was going to try and win this stage. Sagan and Van Avermaet know each other very well because they compete against each other a lot in other races, so Sagan knew there was a clear danger here. He felt forced to go after Van Avermaet on his own.
Greg Van Avermaet

When Sagan caught up with Van Avermaet just before the hill top they had a small lead over the peloton and decided to team up. There were only about 5 km left to go. However, their lead didn't prove large enough and at about 2 km before the finish line the peloton caught up with them.

We were in for another sprint... It was slightly disrupted by two accidents. At the back of the first group a team mate of yellow jersey Nibali fell, taking down Belgian GQ favorite Jurgen Van Den Broeck with him. This was his 3rd accident in 3 days! Fortunately, he was able to continue after a while. It is important to note that (except for the stages that end in a climb) any time loss due to accidents happening in the final three km of a stage are not taken into account. This is the reason why van Garderen lost time in the GQ, but Van Den Broeck did not.
Jurgen Van Den Broeck

The second accident happened about thirty seconds later, in the middle of the sprint. American rider Andrew Talansky, who isn't a sprinter but a GQ rider instead, tried to opt out of the sprint by cycling left of the sprinters. But as he was looking in the wrong direction while making his move he was hit by Simon Gerrans,one of the sprinters, on the other side. Talansky fell, sat there for a while but fortunately he was able to continue later on. Because of the 3km rule Talansky didn't lose any time in the GQ.
Simon Gerrans, who wore the yellow jersey for a short while last year.

The sprint itself was very exciting, with Gerrans seemingly coming back from a lost position, Samuel Dumoulin placing himself very well towards the very end, but on the finish line Matteo Trentin andPeter Sagan clearly crossed over before the other sprinters.

But who had won? Trentin though Sagan had won, seeing as he patted Sagan on the back right after the sprint. However, when the finish photo was shown on TV (and to the jury) you could tell Trentin had won by the smallest of margins. Trentin was informed of his victory by the TDF radio and was suprised and happy. Footage of Sagan hearing of this news were obviously not as upbeat.

The GQ has not changed much. Vincenzo Nibali still leads. Only famous Swiss rider Fabian Cancellara and American GQ rider van Garderen fell back in the GQ today.

Tomorrow's race includes the first 'real' mountains, in this case two second category climbs. Polka-dot jersey rider Cyril Lemoine will most probably lose his jersey to a more accomplished climber tomorrow.
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Cyril Lemoine sporting the jersey for best climber so far.

5th state
07-11-2014, 01:27 PM
You can find tweets & pics of the 7th stage by following the link below

Find videos of today's stage - including the exciting sprint- on the official TDF site (with text in English) here

Drunken Monk
07-11-2014, 01:41 PM
no pantani no tour

5th state
07-11-2014, 01:51 PM
^^Pantani was one of the best to ever do it, no doubt about it.

RIP 'il Pirato'.



5th state
07-12-2014, 03:41 AM
Toul welcomed yesterday's TDF with a yellow fountain (no watersports jokes please ;) )


5th state
07-12-2014, 03:45 AM
Chris Froome broke his left wrist and right hand in the last stage he participated in. A hospital visit revealed this yesterday.

He should be able to start training again in a few weeks.

Chris Froome leaving this year's TDF.

Drunken Monk
07-12-2014, 05:54 AM
^^Pantani was one of the best to ever do it, no doubt about it.

RIP 'il Pirato'.




5th state
07-12-2014, 12:52 PM
TDF, stage 8 : Tomblaine - La Mauselaine
This stage in les Vosges (mountain range in northeast France) contained three mountains towards the end, starting at the final 27km mark. This stage was won solo.

1 FRA Blel Kadri
2 SPA Alberto Contador +2'17"
3 ITA Vincenzo Nibali +2'20"
4 AUS Richie Porte +2'24"
5 FRA Thibaut Pinot +2'28"

As you can tell by looking at the top 5 the mountain finish brought out the big guns. Only French rider Kadri, who also attacked in the second stage (back in the UK), managed to stay in front of the GQ favorites.

It took a lot of effort today for the breakaway group to actually escape. French rider Sylvain Chavanel and Dutch rider Niki Terpstra (winner of this year's Paris-Roubaix, a spring classic race over cobble stones ) were the first to actually get away. Later on Blel Kadri, a French rider of Morrocan heritage, his compatriot Adrien Petit and young British rider Simon Yates joined them.
Simon Yates, who is enormously talented and sure to win lots of races in the future.

Since the 'closest' rider in the GQ, Sylvain Chavanel, was about 18 minutes behind yellow jersey Vincenzo Nibali, the latter's team was not interested in taking back the breakaway group. Thus their lead rose to a staggering 11 minutes.
Sylvain Chavanel, 35, winner of a lot of spring classic races, some TDF stages, and temporary bearer of the yellow jersey in 2010. Nicknamed 'la machine'.

However, because of the 3 mountains (2nd and 3rd category) the team mates of some GQ favorites increased the pace anyway, hoping some other GQ riders in the peloton wouldn't be able to keep up and thus lose some time in the GQ.

The breakaway's lead dwindled down to about 5 minutes, so Sylvain Chavanel decided to leave his fellow escapees behind. After a while Blel Kadri in turn left the other ones behind, in search of Chavanel. Kadri, who clearly is the better climber, caught up with Chavanel in a matter of minutes and soon left him behind.

Kadri was the only one who was not caught by the peloton by the end of the stage, finishing about 2 minutes before them. This was a triple victory for Kadri. Not only did he win the stage, he also grabbed Cyril Lemoine's polka dot jersey (best climber) since Kadri crossed all three mountains first. To top that off, the TDF jury also decided to award him the daily prize of rider with the most impressive attack ('prix de combativité').

Needless to say Kadri was overjoyed.

Meanwhile, interesting things were happening in the peloton. Spanish GQ favorite Alberto Contador, who had to make up for lost time (from the cobble stone stage) had his team mates increase the pace at the forefront of the peloton immensely on the first mountain slope. Soon enough the peloton became much smaller. On the second mountain slope, which was much steeper, current top 10 riders who don't handle climbing very well were left behind. People like green jersey and 3rd in GQ Peter Sagan, 4th in GQ Michal Kwiatkowski and 6th in GQ Tony Gallopin were left behind.
French rider Tony Gallopin, team mate of GQ favorite Jurgen Van Den Broeck.

Others were stranded because of punctures (such as current 2nd in GQ Jakob Fuglsang, team mate of yellow jersey Vincenzo Nibali) or because of accidents (American GQ favorite Andrew Talansky unfortunately fell again, for the second day in a row).
Danish rider Jakob Fuglsang, who placed 7th in last year's TDF.

Then on the final climb (1 1/2 km to the finish line) Alberto Contador himself picked up the pace, causing real GQ riders like Jurgen Van Den Broeck and Bauke Mollema to get left behind. In the last 500 meters of today's race only Richie Porte (Team Sky's replacement for Chris Froome), Alejandro Valverde and American rider Tejay van Garderen along with French riders Pinot, Péraud and Bardet managed not to let Alberto Contador and Vincenzo Nibali get away too far.
Alberto Contador, clearly the strongest GQ rider today.

In the last 50 meters Nibali finally had to let Contador go, allowing the Spanish rider to steal back 3 seconds. Of course this is only a small amount of time, but there is the psychological damage for Nibali who has now realized Contador is slightly better than him uphill. Also, this was just a test for Contador. You could tell Contador was timing his jump very close to the finish line, as he couldn't tell just how good Nibali was. (He was afraid of a counterattack by Nibali.) But now Contador also knows he is the better climber in the TDF. Surely, he will attack (much) sooner in the next two stages. These are also mountain stages in les Vosges, with lots of slopes (6 and 7 in the next stages).

The next two days will definitely change the GQ even more. Contador has already jumped from the 16th to the 6th slot, and by the day of rest (Tuesday) he will be even closer to Nibali.

Should current yellow jersey Nibali be worried? Probably. Even though he still has a big lead over Contador (2 1/2 minutes), Contador is the more explosive climber and seems to have a team which is better fit for the mountain stages. While Contador's team mates Nicolas Roche and Michael Rogers rode a fantastic stage, Nibali's team was nowhere to be found on today's final mountain slope.
Nicolas Roche, nephew of famous '80s rider Stephen Roche (winner of the TDF, Giro d'Italia and world champion - all in 1987!)

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Michael Rogers, who won two very difficult mountain stages in this year's Giro d'Italia.

Here's the updated GQ.

1 Vincenzo Nibali

2 Jakob Fuglsang +1'44" (instead of only 2" yesterday ; team mate of Nibali)
3 Richie Porte SKY +1'58"
4 Michal Kwiatkowski +2'26" (lost touch of the peloton but managed to hold on to his spot)
5 Alejandro Valverde +2'27"
6 Alberto Contador +2'34"
7 Romain Bardet +2'39" (first French rider)
8 Rui Costa +2'52"
9 Bauke Mollema+3'02"
10 Jurgen Van den Broeck +3'02"

As you can see the time differences are getting bigger.

American riders Tejay van Garderen (13th) and Andrew Talansky (16th) are in the top 20. van Garderen has gained some time on some of his rivals, while Talansky has lost some because of his accident. Talansky was not seriously hurt and will continue riding.

5th state
07-12-2014, 01:51 PM
You can find tweets & videos of today's stage here

and more videos and pictures here

07-15-2014, 01:51 AM
So 5th state, you seem to be "in the know" with cycling. Is it going to be 11 more stages of celebration for Nibali or do you see any major challenge from anyone? It seemed like Nibali and Contador were on another level and now that Contador is out and Nibali has a 2-min advantage on anyone close to him, he seems like a near-sure winner.

- Rodriguez seems like his only focus is the polka-dot jersey, as he blew up in the last 500m's of today's stage.
- Tejay doesn't seem to have the form he did last year.
- Frank Schleck is past his prime and can't do shit now that he's off the drugs.
- Porte I don't think is ready to step up to the plate and is probably happy with aiming for a podium spot and not 1st.

The tour might be a bust now. I guess watching the Alps will still be exciting.

07-19-2014, 12:10 PM
Well, I road 265km's on Thursday solo with no issues. Then today I crashed for the first time on a road bike 50km's in, washing out on some train tracks in the pouring rain. Road rash all down the side of me. I now know a little bit how it feels in the tour.

Drunken Monk
07-21-2014, 05:54 PM
5th state died lol

netscape check two
11-19-2014, 02:17 AM
--- Lance Armstrong Drops Out Of 'Beer Mile' Attempt After Finishing Only One Lap

The Beer Mile has come a long way from its days as a fringe event organized by college and high school runners in Canada.

Now there are world championships, and everyone from 44-year-old mothers of six to Olympians are trying out the race. But as you can imagine, the event is not for everyone. Take Lance Armstrong, the disgraced former cyclist, who could not get through one-fourth of the race.

Even without the seven Tour de France titles of which he was stripped for admitting that he used performance enhancing drugs, Armstrong is still an incredibly accomplished athlete. A former standout triathlete, Armstrong has completed the New York City Marathon twice in under three hours.

But the beer mile -- in which participants must drink one beer, run a lap on the quarter-mile track, and then repeat the sequence three times -- was too much for Armstrong. In fact, the 43-year-old dropped out after one lap.

Because he's older than 40, Armstrong would be competing in the "super masters" group and would have to run the race in 5:51 to set a world record. By comparison, 44-year-old mother of six Chris Kimbrough recently set a women's world record of 6:28 in her first attempt.

The overall men's world record in the beer mile is 4:57.1, set by James Nielsen on April 27.

In case you think you've got what it takes to compete in this grueling event, the Flotrack Beer Mile World Championships will be held in Austin, Texas, next month.

Don't expect to see Armstrong in the field.

"One and done," he said after his failed attempt.

5th state
11-20-2014, 10:30 AM
^^too much dope, not enough beer.

5th state
12-19-2014, 07:11 PM
he gets it right in the second half