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MAYOR QUIMBY
08-13-2010, 01:40 AM
Rappers have the ability to reach MILLIONS of young adults and have the opportunity to make music about an INFINITE amount of topics, yet they always go to the same got damn one: violence. It's such a shame to hear good rapping being wasted on the same fucking subject year after year! You'd think rappers like Mobb Deep, Nas, Kool G. Rap, and Raekwon would stop talking about violence and move on after making 237,000+ songs about it but NO! All their story raps are always the same fucking shit. *Yawn*

For example, theres an old Nas tune where it starts off him catching his wife in bed with another man so he walks away due to the shock, so i'm thinking "Alright! interesting! I like where this is going, what cool shit is he going to pull?" Then the 2nd verse (*SPOILER!*) its just him and his buddy shooting his girl in the forehead and killing the man and dragging their bodies into the house only to blow his own brains out. The end. WTF!

Violence in rap has become so played out it makes me want to vomit. Am I the only one who gets tired of hearing violence in rap? Why do rappers do this? Is it because they believe their fans also want to hear violent things? I'll quote anonymous when he said "We will make them hear what we want them to hear." What do you guys think about it? And don't give me that "violence is the only thing they know about" bullshit. Those rappers know more about video shoots, A&Rs, and buying first class tickets than weaponry.

dad
08-13-2010, 01:51 AM
what Nas song is that ? LOL

theheavens
08-13-2010, 01:57 AM
what Nas song is that ? LOL

Undying Love. and the violence is part of the bravado. they kinda go hand-in-hand

djskillz
08-13-2010, 02:50 AM
it's violent because hip hop is a genre dominated by masculinity and bravado. it targets our basic instincts as human beings and that is violence, dominance and asserting yourself. some emcees assert themselves lyrically but most talk about how easy it is for them to smack the shit out of you. these same conversations go on in every day life and are reflected through the music.

whitey
08-13-2010, 07:48 AM
i think its because rap is mainly done by the black man. the black man for a long time had nothing to show for himself except trying to be the hardest on the block and get respect. you get respect by being a tough violent person.

thats not really how life should be or necessarily is, but in the eyes of someone who has nothing, i suppose that is all they can control.

rap and the people doing it are now making millions of dollars and living plush lives continuing to rap about that stuff because it fits a persona used to sell records.

snapple
08-13-2010, 07:56 AM
i agree to an extent.....

but you chose to pinpoint three particular artists who are specifically known for rapping about the streetlife. Anything gangsta sells. Everymovement in hiphop since the mid-90s has glorified the gangster lifestyle, and it sells records. Its entertaining to people. Sopranos was the biggest show, if not one of the biggest shows, on television ever. Violence just adds more suspense and danger..its appealing to commonnpeople... But there are plenty of artists who don't just kick the gangsta style. I do understand what you're saying tho somedays i just can't listen to rap...

Mr. R&B
08-13-2010, 08:04 AM
There are plenty of rappers who don't have violent subject matter.

But I'm sure the hypocrite in most of you would accuse them of being soft or wack.

If you want gritty beats, you're gonna get gritty subject matter over them.

Can't have it both ways.

Undiluted Karma
08-13-2010, 08:22 AM
People have neglected to emphasise one thing-Violence sells

You only have to look at GTA and Manhunt, Scarface and The Godfather.

Undiluted Karma
08-13-2010, 08:39 AM
There are plenty of rappers who don't have violent subject matter.

But I'm sure the hypocrite in most of you would accuse them of being soft or wack.

If you want gritty beats, you're gonna get gritty subject matter over them.

Can't have it both ways.

yeah c/s.

i like how dudes like gza on grimey shit like swordsman keep the content gritty but creative and unique.

but yeah i cant stand when i see people(a few) on this forum calling rappers who dont have violent subject material soft.

and that AOTP LP was good 4/5, had some bangers especially that auto tune pisstake song that sounded a bit like Kanye

Ginnsey
08-13-2010, 08:56 AM
Jurassic 5 and Dilated Peoples to name a couple of groups who arent into the violence.

Shogah
08-13-2010, 09:14 AM
Rappers have the ability to reach MILLIONS of young adults and have the opportunity to make music about an INFINITE amount of topics, yet they always go to the same got damn one: violence. It's such a shame to hear good rapping being wasted on the same fucking subject year after year! You'd think rappers like Mobb Deep, Nas, Kool G. Rap, and Raekwon would stop talking about violence and move on after making 237,000+ songs about it but NO! All their story raps are always the same fucking shit. *Yawn*

For example, theres an old Nas tune where it starts off him catching his wife in bed with another man so he walks away due to the shock, so i'm thinking "Alright! interesting! I like where this is going, what cool shit is he going to pull?" Then the 2nd verse (*SPOILER!*) its just him and his buddy shooting his girl in the forehead and killing the man and dragging their bodies into the house only to blow his own brains out. The end. WTF!

Violence in rap has become so played out it makes me want to vomit. Am I the only one who gets tired of hearing violence in rap? Why do rappers do this? Is it because they believe their fans also want to hear violent things? I'll quote anonymous when he said "We will make them hear what we want them to hear." What do you guys think about it? And don't give me that "violence is the only thing they know about" bullshit. Those rappers know more about video shoots, A&Rs, and buying first class tickets than weaponry.

I agree. Infamous was dope. Live and Let Die was dope. OB4CL was dope. Lifestyles Of the Poor and Dangerous, Lifestlyles of the Rich and Famous, Nwa.....
I love listening to those songs because its a whole different world for me, and i can never find myself in them which is exact reason why i love it.

But then after 10 years, you hear same old same old.


How about some songs about real life for a change? I'm sick of pretentious know-it-all bullshit songs and mafioso tales that have been done numerous times,

How about some interesting stories about regular people living their regular lifes for a change?

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Jammin
08-13-2010, 09:24 AM
listen to ice t on this intro

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Critical Damage
08-13-2010, 09:39 AM
I think it's because it was the way to show pain and anger.

Dr. Simon Hurt
08-13-2010, 10:03 AM
a better question would be, why do the consumers of rap, of all races, only seem to support black stereotypes--- whether it's 'violence and bravado' or complete buffoonery?

why do the majority of americans only seem to accept seeing black people depicted in a way that can be seen as both one-dimensional and demeaning?\

i think its because rap is mainly done by the black man. the black man for a long time had nothing to show for himself except trying to be the hardest on the block and get respect. you get respect by being a tough violent person.

^an authority on the black experience named 'whitey'. priceless. (I don't even disagree that this might be true for some people, but these generalizations are hilarious)

oh and check out roots, big boi, kweli and hi-tek, and the nas/damian albums...but i guess it's easier to bitch about the same things people have been bitching about since any of us were children than to acknowledge quality and progressive work that's right under your nose.

angry!
08-13-2010, 03:01 PM
you sound like a queer....

literally!!!!!!!!!!!!

this sounds like a recycled dinner convo you were having with your male partner!!!!!!!

set foot in a hood, duck a bullet, walk around a broken crack pipe with bare feet... and rethink this pathetic thread you spaghetti wrist faggot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

g rap spits gangsta shit... scorcese makes gangsta flicks... if its creative, and dope, its gonna fill the seats!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go buy a brand nubian record, go buy a talib kweli record, go buy a q-tip record, theres sub-genre within sub-genre in this culture...

you were offended by UNDYING LOVE... one of the greatest storytelling tracks of all time, audio film... visual lyricism, incredible detail and ambition...and you were thrown by the violence... go play volleyball with your bros and simmer down faggot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you protest violent movies?!?!?!!?

do you protest violent acts!?!?!?!?!

its a violent world out there bubble boy, step outside and check it out, the world is bigger than the suburban shell youre stuck in!!!!!!!!!!!!!

youve never made a good thread... EVER...

you weigh 140 pounds and take issue with violent art...

go get your cosmo girl out the mail box you fuckin vag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

benzo
08-13-2010, 04:06 PM
OP has openly admitted to having homosexual fantasies on this forum...no lie.

Hollow Dartz
08-13-2010, 04:22 PM
you sound like a queer....

literally!!!!!!!!!!!!

this sounds like a recycled dinner convo you were having with your male partner!!!!!!!

set foot in a hood, duck a bullet, walk around a broken crack pipe with bare feet... and rethink this pathetic thread you spaghetti wrist faggot!!!!!!!!!!!!!

g rap spits gangsta shit... scorcese makes gangsta flicks... if its creative, and dope, its gonna fill the seats!!!!!!!!!!!!!

go buy a brand nubian record, go buy a talib kweli record, go buy a q-tip record, theres sub-genre within sub-genre in this culture...

you were offended by UNDYING LOVE... one of the greatest storytelling tracks of all time, audio film... visual lyricism, incredible detail and ambition...and you were thrown by the violence... go play volleyball with your bros and simmer down faggot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do you protest violent movies?!?!?!!?

do you protest violent acts!?!?!?!?!

its a violent world out there bubble boy, step outside and check it out, the world is bigger than the suburban shell youre stuck in!!!!!!!!!!!!!

youve never made a good thread... EVER...

you weigh 140 pounds and take issue with violent art...

go get your cosmo girl out the mail box you fuckin vag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A whiteboy made this thread, what do expect?

THE W
08-13-2010, 04:36 PM
music tends to reflect the environment and experiences of the artists who made it.

djskillz
08-13-2010, 09:59 PM
the real question is why is the world violent. i never understood why people assumed that life imitates art instead of the other way around.

Compulsion
08-13-2010, 11:13 PM
A whiteboy made this thread, what do expect?

If it was reversed and someone made a comment like that, you would be crying racism. NOt surprising, the most racist people on this site aren't white .

Undiluted Karma
08-14-2010, 03:12 AM
Lol at the ignorants on this thread and forum acting like black folks are the only people who have experienced this type of environment
lmao

ol dirty abbot
08-14-2010, 03:54 AM
i agree with the threadstarter i dont mind discribing life but fucking hell how boring is the ill fuck u up rap game now. its all been done before.

WooHa
08-14-2010, 12:08 PM
Hip hop ain't violent. You are just too soft. GTFO pussy

CharlesJones
08-14-2010, 12:27 PM
LOL@Angry hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Angry once again says something funny and he's dissing the threadstarter LOL. Most rappers say violent rhymes because they like violence and they see violence in their neighborhoods all the time. Plus violence does sell in music, tv, movies. Same thing with sex. Sex sells in movies, pornos, music, tv, magazines. Sex and violence is exciting to people. Most people that buy rap cd's don't wanna hear boring topics from rappers like politics and love. You see Ghostface Killah tried to do some love songs on his last album and nobody bought it hahahahahahahahahahahaha. His fans wanna hear hardcore music from him.

Undiluted Karma
08-14-2010, 12:55 PM
yeah.

gfk himself said he wanted to do and rnb album for a long time,but he put out the hardcore crack fiend stuff for the fans and for Def Jam.

he does that stuff for the fans for the money, he himself said he hadnt shot anyone since the early 90's.

on a side note im not into rnb but i really liked that album bar 3 or 4 tracks it was great.

criminally underrated in my opinion

peace

CharlesJones
08-14-2010, 01:42 PM
You liked Ghostface's Wizard Of Poetry album? Hahahahahahahahahahaha. I didn't even bother to listen to that soft shit. I like a lot of r&b singers but i like old r&b singers. I don't like none of these new singers because their songs are boring. I like r&b jams more than love songs. That's why i love groups like Lakeside, Kool And The Gang, Parliament/Funkadelic, Zapp, Cameo, Dazz Band, The Gap Band, Midnight Star, Con Funk Shun, Earth Wind And Fire, The Time, Ready For The World, Chic, The Deele(only their first album i like. Not too many people remember Babyface was with this group.), The Isley Brothers. I wish there was some funk groups out now like the ones i just said because they would liven up r&b right now and make it better than what it is now. It's too many soft ass boring r&b singers now and that's why r&b has been boring to me since after the 90's LOL.

Undiluted Karma
08-14-2010, 01:55 PM
each to their own
but you like r kelly? wouldnt he be considered "soft"?

CharlesJones
08-14-2010, 02:02 PM
I think R Kelly has done more good songs than bad songs. So i wouldn't consider him soft even though i think most male r&b singers are soft because they sing about love and what they'll do for women LOL. I remember Babyface's Soon As I Get Home song when he said i'll pay your rent, i'll buy your clothes, i'll cook your dinner too soon as i get home from work. When i heard those lyrics, i was like Babyface has lost his damn mind hahahahahahahahahahaha. I would never do any of that stuff for a woman LOL. I ain't letting no woman think i'm soft so she think she can use me. If Babyface will do all that stuff for a woman, how come his ex-wife Tracey left him? LOL. Tracey is fine and she got with Eddie Murphy for a minute but she decided not to marry him probably because she thought about all those kids Eddie got hahahahahahahahahahaha.

issues
08-16-2010, 04:14 AM
I remember Babyface's Soon As I Get Home song when he said i'll pay your rent, i'll buy your clothes, i'll cook your dinner too soon as i get home from work. When i heard those lyrics, i was like Babyface has lost his damn mind hahahahahahahahahahaha. I would never do any of that stuff for a woman LOL. I ain't letting no woman think i'm soft so she think she can use me.

virgin..

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Dirty Knowledge
08-17-2010, 02:57 AM
I think the real question is Why Does Violent Rap Sell?
And because it comes from the streets.

Krusha
08-19-2010, 10:30 AM
Why is Death Metal violent?