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buckshotstheone
09-12-2010, 11:56 AM
Today I look at the overused phrase and discuss what it really means

http://www.reppghhiphop.com/2010/09/12/what-is-real-hip-hop/

If I hear one more clown talk about “real hip hop” or try to tell me something is “real hip hop” while something else is not, imma tear the whole shit down. Who the fuck makes anyone the judge of “real hip hop” when hip hop is a state of mind, and rapping is an art form. And even though they are technically talking about performance of rap and not the overall culture, typically the people who make these statements feel as though they are representing the culture better than those they scorn for not making “real hip hop”, and as we also know, most of the time “real hip hop” = underground bullshit and “mainstream hip hop” is what they’re hating on. It’s called being bitter.

First of all, hip hop is fucking hip hop, whether or not you like it. If Plies or Waka Flocka Flame wants to go in over a wack beat and spew some nonsense, it might suck, but it’s still hip hop. It’s still beats to the rhyme, it’s still someone taking words and speaking instead of singing them over musical accompaniment. Not to mention, “real” is only in the eye of the beholder.


I had a brilliant conversation with my boy recently regarding people who hate Gucci Mane. My boy is a come-up in the underground rap scene which would normally put him in the camp of people who hate everyone and everything that’s popular, commercial, and in the general sense of society, cool. But surprisingly my boy was completely understanding and accepting of Gucci Mane and his entire persona. Reason being that for the people who live their life inside of strip clubs and on the corners of nondescript blocks, Gucci Mane IS real. He’s talking about the shit they live, the shit they believe in, and the shit that matters to them. So to them he is very much the representation of what they are about while some white boy staring out the window of his mom’s basement hugging a Mighty Mouse vhs tape is not at all relatable. Yet the fanboy studying Adult Swim will turn around and say “fuck that man, Gucci Mane ain’t hip hop, he’s some bullshit”. The fuck makes Gucci Mane not “real” but mushroom-trip rhymes about the planets aligning with your entirely too big ego the “realest” shit ever? It’s all about your frame of reference.


I don’t sell cocaine, I don’t fuck strippers with 5 dollar bills, and I don’t carry an arsenal of guns inside my jeans, but I can at least understand that there are people in this world who do those things like that and to those people, Gucci Mane or whoever else rhymes about the shit he rhymes about, is some real shit. Hip hop is not just about reciting a fucking philosophy book or making hilarious punchlines with multi-syllabic rhymes, it’s about representing who you are and what you’re about, and Gucci Mane does just that, along with all the other rappers who talk about sex, drugs and violence. But apparently to some people this shit is “ignorant” and “not a true representation of what hip hop is about”. Sorry, but rhyming about your favorite cartoons as a kid is ignorant to me. Rhyming about how you still love Duck Down and wanna bring back the golden age is ignorant to me. But I ain’t out there bitching and whining that you’re not making “real” hip hop because I’m not bitter about not selling as many albums as the next dude.


You wanna hate on some shit cause you can’t relate or cause you just don’t like the way it sounds? That’s fine. But don’t try to tell me something isn’t “real hip hop” simply because you don’t like the person making it or the message they’re delivering. What’s important is speaking your mind, and as long as you’re doing that then I don’t give a fuck what you’re rapping about, you’re contributing to this culture and that’s all that matters.

MAYOR QUIMBY
09-12-2010, 03:56 PM
These two threads may help.

Where Hip-Hop comes from:
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50534


The difference between rap and hip-hop:
http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50139

dad
09-12-2010, 03:59 PM
i fuckin hate your dumb articles. i have fun laughing at them tho.

copywrite
09-12-2010, 06:10 PM
Damn homie, you're so fucking oblivious it's unreal.

ALCATRAZ
09-12-2010, 08:37 PM
lol i wonder what the threadstarters motivation is... his blogs are sooo bad lolol he must know by now

baritone
09-12-2010, 10:32 PM
a serious question tho:

what do you consider "contributions to the culture"? i dont hate on niggas like gucci and waka flocka, but still, im not oblivious to the fact that their main objective in this rap shit is to profit off of it. therefore, what are there contributions to the culture? from an artistic and creative perspective

EAGLE EYE
09-12-2010, 10:43 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRp5PiZqzrTFqqvTUoIl904kRQKChuiW jV7pRPPNwzGrHw4DN0&t=1&usg=__i-RjdlUS45fLFrG0HsUSPZj3fyQ=

JakobR
09-13-2010, 07:53 AM
Hip hop is dead because people try to dictate the direction of it. Basically everyone is contributing to the culture no matter how bad or good their albums are cus there will always be listeners (= relevance).

I just can't see why it is such a problem to avoid stuff that you don't like? A lot of listeners of this genre are busy telling everyone how much they hate a certain artist. Here's some ideas: Stop listening to them, stop searching for their music, stop open threads about them etc.

Just because some people make corny stuff doesn't mean they aint hip hop or anything.

buckshotstheone
09-13-2010, 09:48 AM
Hip hop is dead because people try to dictate the direction of it. Basically everyone is contributing to the culture no matter how bad or good their albums are cus there will always be listeners (= relevance).

I just can't see why it is such a problem to avoid stuff that you don't like? A lot of listeners of this genre are busy telling everyone how much they hate a certain artist. Here's some ideas: Stop listening to them, stop searching for their music, stop open threads about them etc.

Just because some people make corny stuff doesn't mean they aint hip hop or anything.

^this.