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Fatal Guillotine 12-11-2010 10:24 AM

Trivia: who is being spoken of in Surah 2:246?
 
"Hast thou not
Turned thy vision to the Chiefs
Of The Children Of Israel
After(the time of) Moses
They said to a Prophet
(That was) among them:
"Appoint for us a King, That we
May Fight in the cause of Allah
he said: Is it not possible,
If ye were commanded
To fight,that that ye
Will not fight?" They said:
"How could we refuse
To fight in the cause of Allah.
Seeing that we were turned out
Of our homes and our families?"
But when they were commanded
To fight, they turned back.
Except a small band
Among Them. But Allah
Has full Knowledge of those
Who do wrong.

Fatal Guillotine 01-23-2011 04:27 PM

bump

beautifulrock 01-23-2011 04:44 PM

Muhammad Jesus or Buddah, are the only prophets I know of, and they're all the same person.

spiggity_ace 01-23-2011 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beautifulrock (Post 2037530)
Muhammad Jesus or Buddah, are the only prophets I know of, and they're all the same person.

not the same person, and not sure who is being referred to

Hellspawn 01-24-2011 03:11 AM

Saul

it was the king that ruled just before the prophethood of David, he was the chief of the army to whom belonged david when he slaughtered Goliath.

Undiluted Karma 01-24-2011 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beautifulrock (Post 2037530)
Muhammad Jesus or Buddah, are the only prophets I know of, and they're all the same person.


Nope

John Prewett 01-26-2011 07:12 AM

give us a king
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal Guillotine (Post 2014381)


"Hast thou not Turned thy vision to the Chiefs
Of The Children Of Israel After (the time of) Moses
They said to a Prophet (That was) among them:
"Appoint for us a King, ............

"and they said to him,
"Behold, you have grown old, and your sons do not walk in your ways.

Now appoint a king for us to judge us like all the nations."

But the thing was displeasing in the sight of Samuel when they said,
"Give us a king to judge us " And Samuel prayed to the LORD.

The LORD said to Samuel, "Listen to the voice of the people in regard
to all that they say to you, for they have not rejected you,
but they have rejected Me from being king over them."
1 Samuel 8:5-7

Fatal Guillotine 01-27-2011 12:44 PM

The Prophet of the Children of Israel here is Samuel, peace be upon him. This verse and the following verses tell the story of Samuel, peace be upon him, Talut (Saul) who is chosen by God to be the king of Israel that leads them against the army of Goliath, and David, peace be upon him, who is a part of Saul's army and kills Goliath.

"in his time Israel had suffered from much corruption within and many reverses without. the Philistines had made a great attack and defeated Israel with great slaughter. the Israelites instead of relying on Faith and their own cohesion brought out their most sacred possession, the ark of the covenant to help them fight. but the enemy captured it, carried it away and retained it for seven months".....----commentary by Abdullah Yusuf Ali

Fatal Guillotine 01-27-2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beautifulrock (Post 2037530)
Muhammad Jesus or Buddah, are the only prophets I know of, and they're all the same person.



false for one all three stories differ

spiggity_ace 01-28-2011 09:11 PM

one thing i wanna say about buddha is uneducated people view him as some kind of diety, when he was human and he didnt stress an importance of god, buddhsim is all about the self.

same thing with hazrat mohammed uneducated buffoons think hes some diety, again he was a human prophet.

LORD NOSE 01-28-2011 10:03 PM

what is the difference between a deity and a human ?

Sham-iLL 01-29-2011 11:32 AM

a deity is one worth of worship and huans are the ones who worship the deity unless a human decides they want to be a deity, but really, there is no deity other than The God, the one and only real deity

LORD NOSE 01-29-2011 01:23 PM

are you saying that a deity is a human worthy of worship ?

Fatal Guillotine 01-29-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasjit (Post 2040312)
one thing i wanna say about buddha is uneducated people view him as some kind of diety, when he was human and he didnt stress an importance of god, buddhsim is all about the self.

same thing with hazrat mohammed uneducated buffoons think hes some diety, again he was a human prophet.



In Buddhism, Devas and Deities are nothing more worthy than humans or animals. They're all subject to Kamma and Dukkha.

spiggity_ace 01-29-2011 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal Guillotine (Post 2040745)
In Buddhism, Devas and Deities are nothing more worthy than humans or animals. They're all subject to Kamma and Dukkha.

yea, wut i meant to say was buddha didnt stress the importance of the hindu brahman or what others call as god, doesnt mean that it wasnt important though.


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