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soul controller 08-05-2012 10:37 AM

Jesus = Lucifer
 









D.projectile 08-05-2012 10:48 AM

is this gonna benefit anyone?

soul controller 08-05-2012 11:14 AM

click play, find out for yourself.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ 08-05-2012 11:52 AM

do you all believe in supernatural beings?

THE W 08-05-2012 12:12 PM

more intellectual irresponsibility by those who dont like christianity.

fair enough if you think the bible and the concept of God is bullshit but please dont bastardize the scripture to make it say things it doesnt say.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ 08-05-2012 12:21 PM

i believe in ghosts.

THE W 08-05-2012 12:38 PM

^^get out

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ 08-05-2012 12:48 PM

i've seen what i believe to be ghosts. i haven't seen what jesus or lucifer looks like. people have their own saviours and demons in their lifetime. people will express what they love and fear and hate and joy and so on.

maybe there is a god and devil. or many gods and devils and i've yet to meet them when i die. i don't know what i'd say to them. "hello" would be a start i guess. do you think the devil has time to keep an eye on everyone in hell, cos quite a few people in history deserve to go to hell, right? do you think the devil punishes them for doing his dirty work for him?

THE W 08-05-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ (Post 2253311)
i've seen what i believe to be ghosts. i haven't seen what jesus or lucifer looks like. people have their own saviours and demons in their lifetime. people will express what they love and fear and hate and joy and so on.

maybe there is a god and devil. or many gods and devils and i've yet to meet them when i die. i don't know what i'd say to them. "hello" would be a start i guess. do you think the devil has time to keep an eye on everyone in hell, cos quite a few people in history deserve to go to hell, right? do you think the devil punishes them for doing his dirty work for him?

....seriously, get out.

lucifer is not the name for the fallen angel but an attribute. the fallen angel or "lucifer" was a very high ranking angel in heaven until he decided to overthrow God to become greater than He. God stripped him and threw him down to the earth to dwell there until the appointed time for eternal punishment.

Jesus being called the morning star has nothing to do with the fallen angel. maybe you could say Jesus is "A lucifer" meaning "a morning star" or "one who shines". though the fallen angel was stripped of that title when he was thrown down. he was then given the name satan, which means "the opposer".

what im discussing has absolutely nothing to do with what people want to believe and everything to do with rebuking someone for a gross and despicable misinterpretation of scriptural text.

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ 08-05-2012 01:16 PM

there's been a lot of gross misinterpretation of all sorts of texts throughout history. who's to say mine is more misinterpreted than yours? because it's down in black and white that means it's got to be true?




i don't believe the idea of heaven and hell ever existed before people discovered that the weather makes things grow and give life. and red is always used to represent hell because blood is red and people associate blood with death and despair.




once they got the idea of a heaven and a hell they've just added some characters that they want to believe are doing all the work.

LORD NOSE 08-05-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ (Post 2253311)
do you think the devil punishes them for doing his dirty work for him?

good question -


it's said that the devil submits/works for God though -

as far as Jesus being Lucifer though ... the Jesus of today is a merge between the 2 nations ( it's how i see it )

america is called the melting pot - and all peoples from all nations are here to witness the power of the one that was written of - he is the alpha and omega - the beginning and the end - the root and offspring of david and the bright morning star -

Ol' Dirty Trixˣ 08-05-2012 01:59 PM

i was always led to believe jesus was on earth to turn people onto christianity.

THE W 08-05-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ (Post 2253318)
there's been a lot of gross misinterpretation of all sorts of texts throughout history. who's to say mine is more misinterpreted than yours? because it's down in black and white that means it's got to be true?.

if its down in black and white it means it needs to be interpreted correctly which is not being done by the person in these videos.

he'd be better off saying the bible is bullshit and leaving it at that instead of taking scripture way out of its intended context.

if you hate math just say you hate math but 2 + 2 doesnt equal 22.

CuzinBilly 08-05-2012 03:00 PM

Fuck this Post

rakimkoolgrapwutang 08-05-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ (Post 2253311)
do you think the devil punishes them for doing his dirty work for him?

i remember in book of job that the devil acted for god by accusing people and telling god and also tempting people.

he probably likes punishing people so he wants more 2 b punished.

anyway theres lots of contradictions in the bible


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