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LORD NOSE 11-03-2012 11:35 AM

How can AnyThing Non-Physical Exist ?
 
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John Nash 11-03-2012 11:58 AM

i think existence is subjective but a faculty or force imo "exists" just as much as any physical thing.

knewcheeze 11-03-2012 12:03 PM

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the only way anything non physical could exist is if that particular thing decides to enter the physical universe or it involuntarily enters the physical universe

otherwise...nothing in the non-physical exists...for something to exist means it has to eventuallly not exist...existence only happens in the physical universe

that which exists is finite and that which doesn't exist is infinite

John Nash 11-03-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 2277721)
the only way anything non physical could exist is if that particular thing decides to enter the physical universe or it involuntarily enters the physical universe

otherwise...nothing in the non-physical exists...for something to exist means it has to eventuallly not exist...existence only happens in the physical universe

that which exists is finite and that which doesn't exist is infinite

what is this "non-physical". forces are non-physical but they effect physical things.

knewcheeze 11-03-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang (Post 2277738)
what is this "non-physical". forces are non-physical but they effect physical things.

you just began to answer your own question in the second sentence of this quote

these non physical forces u speak of are the borders of this non-physical that eye speak of

John Nash 11-03-2012 12:23 PM

but then can you show me a purely physical universe where everything in it is physical

knewcheeze 11-03-2012 12:32 PM

fffffff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang (Post 2277747)
but then can you show me a purely physical universe where everything in it is physical

is this a trick question?

John Nash 11-03-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 2277751)
is this a trick question?

i dont see why there has to be a purely physical or purely non-physical universe. i cant see why physical things are the only things which exist

LORD NOSE 11-03-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 2277721)

otherwise...nothing in the non-physical exists...for something to exist means it has to eventuallly not exist...existence only happens in the physical universe

that which exists is finite and that which doesn't exist is infinite


can you give me an example of something that doesn't exist ?


what is infinite and does not exist ?




Quote:

Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang (Post 2277738)
what is this "non-physical". forces are non-physical but they effect physical things.


how is a force non - physical -



how can something that is considered non-physical, move something that is physical ?

knewcheeze 11-03-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang (Post 2277755)
i dont see why there has to be a purely physical or purely non-physical universe. i cant see why physical things are the only things which exist

when eye say physical universe eye mean the place where life and death occur

as far the universe in general is concerned it is emphatically not purely physical or non-physical.....theres in beetween the 2 type area's

om making a differentiation from the universe and the physical universe for conversational purposes

diggy 11-03-2012 12:43 PM

Basically, you Sunny and knowcheeze are materialists. Materialism is only one explanation of existing things. There are others. And Sunny, you are asking a question that you already gave an answer to in a previous post.

Is oxygen non existent?

knewcheeze 11-03-2012 12:46 PM

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"i cant see why physical things are the only things which exist "

physical things don't exist because nothing is separate in the physical universe...everything in the physical is ONE...its only an illusion that we have that it is separate...

what does is exist is ALL THINGS in their totality all together...the physical universe on a whole is the only thing that exists




LORD NOSE 11-03-2012 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FMJ (Post 2277762)
Basically, you Sunny and knowcheeze are materialists.







lol- that's a fucked up title for a nigga












Quote:

Originally Posted by FMJ (Post 2277762)
Materialism is only one explanation of existing things.









can you name me something that exist and at the same time is not material/matter ?






i see light and sound as being a form of matter


if you can talk about it, point to it, and feel it, it is matter, and it exist -


















Quote:

Originally Posted by FMJ (Post 2277762)
There are others. And Sunny, you are asking a question that you already gave an answer to in a previous post.








where ?























Quote:

Originally Posted by FMJ (Post 2277762)
Is oxygen non existent?


if you need it to live, it exist and it is material

John Nash 11-03-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS (Post 2277759)
how is a force non - physical -



how can something that is considered non-physical, move something that is physical ?

something is physical when it is material. when it can be touched. when it is tangible.

a force is not material or tangible.

gravity isnt material therefore it isnt physical. you cant touch it.

i have no idea how forces effect physical things. its a mind fuck. schopenhauer thought it was "will" which did it.

knewcheeze 11-03-2012 12:53 PM

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can you give me an example of something that doesn't exist ?

anything which u could isolate from the physical universe a being "a thing" in and of itself does not exist...at least thats how eye cee it

as far as om concerned the physical universe on a whole in its totality is the only thing which exists because eye don't percieve anything in the physical universe as being separate from anything else in the physical universe

what is infinite and does not exist ?

everything which does not exist is infinite

implying existence automatically implies non-existence will happen sooner or later

nothing is forever...literally


how is a force non - physical -

you would have to ax koolgraprakim...he's the one who said certain forces was nonphysicall....eye used his comment to lead him to the answer to his question....eye didn't use those words



how can something that is considered non-physical, move something that is physical ?

eye don't know but it appears that the nonphysical has supreme authority over the physical and is responsible for its movement


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