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Edgar Erebus 05-29-2006 04:34 PM

The person who did most damage to hip-hop.
 
Y'all know what I mean. I don't think of commercial motherfuckers and sell-outs as Mobb, I mean really bad persons... Who do that shit on purpose, knawImean? A person who changed the game in the bad way.

Greek Gheynician Anal Tradition 05-29-2006 04:56 PM

All the fake-ass gangstas.These faggots changed the game in the bad way.

MaShPG 05-29-2006 04:59 PM

backpackers.

GhostFan 05-29-2006 05:01 PM

I think I'm one of the few people to think there is nothing wrong with hip hop at all. If anything at all hurts hip hop, its the lack of creativity of some rappers. Yes, besides those who talk about grills etc, I'm including anyone who dwells on the "hip hop is dead" aspect in most of their songs.

MaShPG 05-29-2006 05:04 PM

^^ rep.

cap 05-29-2006 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostFan
I think I'm one of the few people to think there is nothing wrong with hip hop at all. If anything at all hurts hip hop, its the lack of creativity of some rappers. Yes, besides those who talk about grills etc, I'm including anyone who dwells on the "hip hop is dead" aspect in most of their songs.

very good point.
but certain people have taken the level of rap to new lows.

the 1st person that comes to mind is puffy.
the bling rage right now,is still directly linked to his blowing up on the scene 10 years ago.

TAURO 05-29-2006 05:26 PM

I agree, mr P Diddy is partly to blame of the shit he started nearly ten years ago.

Punch 05-29-2006 05:30 PM

no one damaged Hip-Hop

If non one bought Puffy's records would he have had any influence on the state of the culture? I think hip-Hop fans need to start taking responsiblilty, it's in our hands, it always has been.

cap 05-29-2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punch
no one damaged Hip-Hop

If non one bought Puffy's records would he have had any influence on the state of the culture? I think hip-Hop fans need to start taking responsiblilty, it's in our hands, it always has been.

agreed,but keep in mind its not only hip hop fans who bought his albums.

_BaLaNcE_ 05-29-2006 05:33 PM

suge knight..one of the figure behind the lose of 2 greats..it had an impact on the game

snapple 05-29-2006 05:34 PM

the fans.

zeppelin2k 05-29-2006 05:51 PM

people who are hating on the fans are still haters

a lot of the time, what fans like has to do with marketing

the way hip hop is marketed these days is bullshit, if good hiphop was marketed as much as shitty rap, it'd be bumping just as much on radio and tv

its stupid to blame the fans, the rappers can be blamed like people like 50 or puff daddy but even they are just trying to make money bc once they get a taste of it they become greedy, and the way the marketing was going was to have them pretty much sellout and become candy rappers

there was a reason that when Forever dropped, that was ALL you heard on the radio and saw on the tv, bc there was money to be made, of course fans play a part but hip hop can't have fans if the majority of people are never exposed to real hiphop, and thats not the fans faults, just look at ghost's album, he got fucked

its not a rappers' fault, its a whole group of people's fault and the reason was $$$$$$$$$ and it always will be, BUT for one way to have a revolution would be up to the FANS, bc if all the wu fans ACTUALLY went out and BOUGHT the albums they bump, there'd be no way to ignore the resurgancein sales and this is for any other hardcore hiphop albums, but right now the marketing is helping supress the spread of knowledge about true hiphop

TAURO 05-29-2006 05:54 PM

I was talking about P Diddy as a buisness man not as a rapper for being partially responsible for starting the shiny suit/bling era.

Punch 05-29-2006 05:59 PM

It's foolish to blame marketing because once again, it's not forcing people to buy anything. they play crap on the radio, so now I don't listen to radio, it's that simple. There are so many other outlets for music now that there is no reason to complain.

TAURO 05-29-2006 06:06 PM

What a stupid thing to say punch, offcourse it's marketing, thats it's whole purpose, to try and sell you something in the most appealing way possible to ensure maximum sales. Marketing techniques are whats used to find the target audience and in the case of hip hop the record labels like bad boy where not happy just reaching out to hip hop fans, they wanted to reach as wider market as possible and they are willing to make the necessary changes to ensure sales regardless of the quality being produced.


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