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check two 01-23-2009 06:10 PM

The official Memphis Grizzlies thread.
I'd like to start off by saying sorry to see lavaroni get fired as Grizzlies head coach. His last name isn't capitalized for some reason? Though, there is a suitable replacement in Lionel Hollins.. having coached the Grizzlies two times before, and having championship experience as an NBA player.

check two 01-23-2009 06:14 PM


GZAjector 01-24-2009 12:34 AM

i think they should have changed their name. anything but grizzlies. ain't no grizzlies in tennessee.

that being said, they should hire eddie jordan.

i liked ol big country.

check two 01-28-2009 05:30 PM

Have you seen what some of the girls look like in Tennessee? I can see why they kept the name Grizzlies. I noticed that this thread is a 5 star thread. Let's keep up the good work. :)

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster 01-28-2009 05:46 PM

Although I am a life-long Celtics fan, I commend you for starting a Memphis Grizzlies fan.

HOwever, HOllins is a shitty coach. Yes, he has coached the grizzlies before, but why fire Ivaroni if you don't hire anybody better?

However, I am a big Rudy Gay fan, as I am a Uconn fan, and I think that he had something to do with Ivaroni's dismissal.

11th Chamber 01-28-2009 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by LadiesLoveCoolDan (Post 1467718)

However, I am a big Rudy Gay fan,

yea im happy to see him doing his thing. I liked him in college, but he seemed like one of those players that would fade out in the NBA. Maybe he's jus on the perfect team for himself

Wu-Tang Forum Internet Poster 01-28-2009 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by 11th Chamber (Post 1467770)
yea im happy to see him doing his thing. I liked him in college, but he seemed like one of those players that would fade out in the NBA. Maybe he's jus on the perfect team for himself

He is an athlete, so I knew he'd be OK in the NBA, and I still think that he has the potential to be an all-star.

But sometimes he has a bad attitude, and he doesn't have that "im going to take over the game mentality" all the time. But he shows flashes.

ALso, the Grizzlies isn't the perfect team for anybody. On one hand, they allow him to get off statistically, but I don't feel like there going to help him actualize his potential. And I don't know that Mayo and Gay will be a great combination, but they could be prove me wrong. Also, the organization is run like shit, and their owner is cheap.

They have a good core of young talent, but I think they need a primetime coach. Id like to see them get an avery johnson, or somebody who's a good builder and teacher.

Dooch 01-28-2009 09:24 PM

the grizzlies were stupid for basically giving Pau Gasol to the Lakers. I think Jerry West was in cahoots with his former organization.

I think they are basically building a minor league team for the Lakers and that its all being funded by the same Jews that run Hollywood.

check two 01-30-2009 08:34 PM

—The Memphis Grizzlies signed forward Darius Miles for the rest of the season Friday.

The forward has averaged 5.7 points in 12.1 minutes in 10 games with the Grizzlies this season as he returns from microfracture surgery on his right knee. Memphis signed the seven-year veteran as a free agent on Dec. 13 and waived him Jan. 7.

The Grizzlies re-signed him Jan. 10 to a 10-day contract two days after Portland threatened possible legal action against any team signing the free agent. Miles’ return put the TrailBlazers on the hook for $18 million and the two years left on his contract.

Memphis also signed Miles to a second 10-day contract on Jan. 20.

The 27-year-old Miles was the third overall pick in the 2000 draft by the Los Angeles Clippers, and has also played for Cleveland, which traded him to Portland midway through the 2003-04 season.

sdeblasi 01-31-2009 12:52 PM

^ man i loved darius miles i think its funny there using him as basicaly a backup power forward now though

Rudy Gay is the truth but i feel like some games he just isnt aggressive, he needs a coach that emphasize him driving to the rack more in combination with that smooth jumper hes got

Great thread though...i have League Pass and the Grizzlies are actually one of the teams i watch the most cuz they have tight players and are fun to watch gay/mayo is hopefully gonna be a great combo

CharlesJones 02-06-2009 11:09 AM

I don't know why Memphis sucks so bad because they got some pretty good players in Rudy Gay, OJ Mayo, Pau Gasol's brother Marc, Hakim Warrick. LOL@them getting Darius Miles and Steve Francis hahahahahaha. Does Steve ever play? I never see his name in the box scores. Remember when they had Shareef Abdur Rahim? He was good for them. Damon Stoudemire did pretty good for them too and so did Eddie Jones. Is Eddie still in the NBA?

check two 11-01-2009 07:43 PM

Allen Iverson is expected to make his season debut for the Memphis Grizzlies on Monday night at Sacramento.

Iverson is recovering from a partial right hamstring tear and missed his third straight game when the Grizzlies played the Nuggets in Denver on Sunday night.

Related CoveragePlay Fantasy Basketball '09 Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins said that when Iverson returns, he’ll be part of a three-guard rotation with O.J. Mayo and Mike Conley.

Iverson, traded from Denver to Detroit last season, declined to speak with reporters Sunday night, saying he’ll talk when he plays in a game.

Dooch 11-01-2009 08:12 PM

Darius Miles couldnt dominate a pickup game at the local park. I cant believe he is still getting work based on a few highlight dunks he had in high school. What a fortunate guy.

check two 11-02-2009 11:41 PM

Negotiations between the Memphis Grizzlies and Rudy Gay(notes) ended on Monday without a contract extension, and the forward will become a restricted free agent at the end of the season, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

League sources said Gay wanted a $12 million annual deal – either over three or five years – because because that’s what Indiana Pacers forward Danny Granger received last season. But Memphis never raised its offer beyond approximately $10 million a year. Memphis never made a significant raise in its offer on Monday, and talks broke off before the Grizzlies’ game with Sacramento late on Monday.

Many in the league thought there was little chance Gay would take less than what he believed was market value to stay with a fledgling franchise that hasn’t shown a commitment to contending.

Gay will become a restricted free agent on July 1. There will be multiple teams with significant cap space, and Gay could sign an offer sheet that the Grizzlies would have to match to keep him.

Gay, 23, was the Grizzlies’ top scorer at 18.9 points a game last season.


check two 11-06-2009 12:58 AM

** Frustration grows for Grizzlies, Iverson
OAKLAND, Calif. – The Memphis Grizzlies started their game against the Golden State Warriors with Allen Iverson still on the bench. And after the Grizzlies lost again, Iverson’s feelings about not starting also remained unchanged.

Iverson totaled 18 points, seven assists and four turnovers in a respectable 27-minute performance during the Grizzlies’ 113-105 loss on Wednesday. But while his playing time increased by 10 minutes from his debut two nights earlier in Sacramento, Iverson still wasn’t happy about two things:

Allen Iverson totaled 18 points and seven assists in 27 minutes in the Grizzlies' loss to the Warriors.

He came off the bench.

And the Grizzlies lost.

No one, Iverson said, should be surprised by his frustration, even Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins.

“The focus is on it because everybody in this whole world knows that I have a problem with it,” Iverson said. “That’s why it’s an issue. It’s easy to say I’m selfish. My response to that is it’s something I’ve never done. And if we had success with us doing it than obviously I’d want to do it because we are winning basketball games. But if we had no success when we do it, than obviously I would have a bigger problem from the beginning.

“This media thing is so big. Coach played the game before. He’s seen the things that I’ve done. He knows that I’ve never come off the bench ever in my whole career. So he knows that’s something I’m not accustomed to or something I would want to do. He listens to talk radio and TV, what people say, family members, friends – everybody knows that it’s not something I want to do.”

Hollins was visibly frustrated while talking with reporters before the game. He initially said he didn’t want to discuss Iverson’s situation, but later answered some questions.

“My frustration is that I have to talk about Allen Iverson at every press setting,” Hollins said. “I want to talk about the Memphis Grizzlies and us as a team. And even when Allen was out, I was happy to talk about Allen. So, that’s my frustration. I just want to talk about the Memphis Grizzlies. If Allen plays well and you guys want to ask me about Allen, that’s great. Or if he plays poorly and you want to ask me how poorly he played, that’s great, too.

“But what he says and what he’s thinking? My job is to coach the team as a unit. I have to make decisions and all the players in that locker room are not going to be happy about it. But it’s my job to do the best that I can and if they don’t feel like I’m doing it than ownership is going to get rid of me and that’s the way it’s always been through history.”

Hollins didn’t speak to Iverson directly after the veteran guard voiced his initial frustration following Monday’s game. But another team official did tell Iverson he shouldn’t have been so quick to complain given that he had missed all of the preseason, in addition to the Grizzlies’ first three games, because of a hamstring injury.

“I know there are kids out there watching my every move, watching if I’m sitting over there pouting,” said Iverson, who had started all but five of his 832 games prior to last season. “My son is watching the same thing. I don’t want to be no guy that is causing the distraction to this squad. But everybody knows I’d be fake if I said, ‘I’m so happy with everything that’s going on.’ It would be too fake. I wouldn’t play that game.”

Iverson isn’t surprised his frustration has become a big story. His stay with the Detroit Pistons was cut short last season after he said he would rather retire than play a reserve role.

“If Allen Iverson says something that anybody doesn’t agree with, yes, it’s a big deal,” Iverson said. “That’s what [the media] loves, man. Like I said a million times, it ain’t no good story if it’s a positive story on Allen Iverson. You don’t want to do nothing about me for no charity or nothing like that. You blow it up or something like that. It sells, don’t it? Well, in this country it does.

“I talked to [reporters] for 30 minutes [in Sacramento], and the only thing that came out of it was about my butt being on the bench. Worldwide, it’s the negative comments. If I talk to somebody for 30 minutes and I’m borderline negative on anything I talk about, they’re going to write that story about that quote that I made. They’re not going to write anything about anything else. I would think at this point in my career that stuff would get old. But it don’t.

“As bad as people want me to be some selfish guy or selfish person, I signed here and came here to help these guys win basketball games. It’s a young team. There is a lot of talent on the team, and I just feel like I can help, and I will continue to do that.”

The Grizzlies signed Iverson to a one-year, $3 million contract after being the only NBA team to express serious interest in him. Even so, Iverson said he wouldn’t have been comfortable coming to Memphis if he thought winning wasn’t a priority. The Grizzlies, who are the league’s youngest team, dropped to 1-4 with the Golden State loss.

“Do we want to develop kids or do we want to win basketball games?” Iverson said. “Obviously, the development will come with playing and practice and being in an NBA environment. But do we want to win basketball games? I think that’s the most important thing. From everything that I’ve experienced from being in the NBA, guys want to win basketball games. Guys want to hold that trophy up at the end of the year. That’s what we lace them up for.

“Now if they would have told me … even when I was 21 coming into the league, that, ‘This is a rebuilding process Allen, we’re not trying to win right now, we’re going to try to develop you and the other young guys,’ it wouldn’t have sat well with me.

“From day one with any team I’m on, I want to win. I want to win basketball games. That’s why I play the game. I hate losing more than I like winning.”

Iverson has not said whether he should be starting over either Mike Conley(notes) or O.J. Mayo(notes). Hollins believes Conley is getting a bad rap in Memphis and deserves a chance to develop.

The week hasn’t gone smoothly for the Grizzlies. Mayo called out forward Rudy Gay(notes) for his defense after a loss in Denver on Sunday. The following night, Iverson made his debut then complained about not starting after the Grizzlies lost in overtime to Sacramento. After Memphis yielded 113 points to the Warriors on Wednesday, Hollins barked, “It’s defense, [expletive] defense that done us in, OK?”

Through it all, the Grizzlies continue to try to acclimate to Iverson, if not he to them.

“We’re in a getting-to-know-you-type stage,” Memphis general manager Chris Wallace said. “What we should have been able to do in the preseason we’re doing in the regular season. We’re trying to make up for lost ground right now.”


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