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_BaLaNcE_ 09-09-2005 03:37 PM

planet x..i don't know what it is but my intuition has a strong desire to draw me to this mysterious planet..are there ppl here who believe with me that this unknown planet will have an impact on us in the future..it keeps me wondering
as to if our ''creaters so to speak came from this planet''..will it return?..i dont know where to look first cuz there are so many theories about this planet...replies are appreciated 4 a seeker of wisdom


PHI.1.618 09-09-2005 03:44 PM

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Idk but the ancient Sumerians believed that our solar system has 12 planets & as of now they've found 10 & a possible 11th coming soon ...

PHI.1.618 09-09-2005 03:46 PM

Re: Niburu
Btw, the annunaki are believed to be from planet X or niburu ...

_BaLaNcE_ 09-09-2005 04:10 PM

Re: Niburu
an interesting piece article

From the Annunaki to Noah's Flood

from a gal named Beth Vegh

To establish the truth and originality of the Flood of Noah, I will be providing information from several extra biblical sources, as well as from the bible itself.

First let's establish the players in this ancient drama:

The Sons of God.
The Nephilim or Fallen Down Ones.
The Anakim Nephilim.
The Annunaki.
Adam and his descendants, including Noah.
The Antediluvian Sumerian Kings.
The Egyptians.
The Canaanites.
The Sumerians.
The Chinese.

Secondly, let's establish the arena in which these events transpired:

Mesopatamia - The Garden of Eden.
Mesopatamia - Sumer:

Sumer - Shuruppak
Sumer - Ur
Sumer - Uruk
Sumer - Accad (Akkad)
Sumer - Eridu
Sumer - Kishi (Kish)
Sumer - Lagash
Sumer - Mari
Sumer - Nippur
Sumer - Sippur
Mt. Ararat.
Mt. Nimush.


The Antediluvian Timetable of Mesopatamian Civilization

Ubaid 5000-3500 B.C.
Uruk 3500-3100 B.C.
Jemdet Nasr 3100-2900 B.C.
Early Dynastic I-III 2900-2350 B.C.

The Antediluvian Timetable of Ancient Egyptian Civilization:

Predynastic until 3000
Archaic 3000 -- 2700
OLD KINGDOM 2700 -- 2200

The Antediluvian Timetable of Nubia Civilization:

3000 to 2350

The Antediluvian Timetable of Chinese Civilization:

2637 to 2350

The Antediluvian Timetable of Indian (India) Civilization:

3000 to 2350


Two different and distinct religions arose out of earliest civilization: The younger and more prevalent religion of Sumer, AN-ENKI-ENLIL, and the older religion of Adam and his descendants based on ELOHIYM. The stories surrounding these figures leads one to believe that Elohiym was in fact modelled after the Sumerian triumverate of An-Enki-Enlil, however, this was not the case.

"An" (a male god), "Ki" (a female goddess) and "Enlil" (a lesser male god) figure prominently in the Sumerian stories. "Enki" doesn't spring into existence until later when he becomes both "An" and "Ki" combined, phasing out worship of "An" and "Ki" as separate entities and removing Ki goddess worship from the triumverate entirely. From thereon, Enki and Enlil, both males, are two of the premiere gods of Sumeria. The triumverate godhead is no more. An and Enlil were not Elohiym, in fact, none of them were GOD or GODS, but Sons of God, as I am about to establish.

Enki [An and Ki] was considered the god of magic [An] and creation [An and Ki], while Enlil was considered the lesser god and Prince of the Air. Biblically and extra-biblically, this places them and their offspring in a precarious position. The Enki's danger, regardless if he is in the form of An, An and Ki or just the Enki, is the practice of magic. Enlil's danger is his position as the Prince of the Air. An-Ki-Enki's stories are better told in The Book of Enoch - The Watchers Chapter 6:

1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters.

2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men

3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not

4 indeed agree to do this deed, and

I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations

5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves

6 by mutual imprecations upon it.

And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn

Chapter 7

1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms

2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they

3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed

4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against

5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and

6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.


These were some of the key religious figures of Sumeria, encompassing the An-Ki-Enlil legend, as well as the Enki-Enlil legend, and the famed Annunaki. In fact, they can be traced down to the Nephilim and Anakim Nephilim, the offspring of the fallen angels of biblical lore as well as Pseudepigraphical books like the Book of Enoch, the Book of Giants, and the Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh.

The Bible refers to Nephilim as the Sons of God, translated this means ANGELS and not just any angels but FALLEN Angels. Zecharia Sitchin translates this fallen nature to mean "those who came from the sky to the earth", et.al, fell from the sky. These same were the Annunaki, later known as the devil and his angels. When they came to the Earth and defiled the human gene pool, they were eventually cast into a supernatural prison (the abyss, the pit) when Christ resurrected, and their first antediluvian hybrid offspring called the Nephilim and the Anakim were destroyed in the Flood by Elohiym.

If the ancient Sumerian tale were true, then Elohiym would've been imprisoning Himself and killing his own offspring. Or to put it in the Sumerian, the Enki [An and Ki] and Enlil would've been locking themselves up and bumping off their kids.

The stories of ancient Sumeria were not fables, they were real events, twisted into half truths and lies, perpetrated against humanity by "fallen" angels and their Nephilim offspring who saw humanity as a veritable smorgasboard. Gilgamesh is one of the Nephilim offspring of the Annunaki. The Nephilim were described as "heroes of old" based on popular stories and tales, thusly the scripture in Genesis 6: There were Nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.

The Enki or An and Ki, as CREATOR(s) gods, was the biggest problem of them all, since the only creating that took place was sex between angels and humans that resulted in the pollution of the human gene pool by angelic beings [or as Sitchin would have you believe, "Aliens"]. This is why it says Noah was perfect in his generations. His gene pool had not been polluted by the Annunaki. His family line was the only one that hadn't participated in the fallen angel orgy, as it were, from the time the Annunaki arrived on the planet. I propose to prove that An-Ki and Enlil [the Annunaki] didn't arrive on the planet at all until the sixth generation of Adam, after which they began to corrupt the human and animal genome and the planet as well.

And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn

Now if this wasn't enough to confuse you completely, let's move on to how this applies to the Flood story. The Ancient Sumerian Kings list is in fact the generations leading up to Noah from Adam.

1. Alulim (Adam)
2. Alalgar (Seth)
3. Kidunnu (Enosh)
4. Alimma (Kenan)
5. Enmenluanna (Mahalalel)
6. Dumuzi (Jared)
7. Ensipazianna (Enoch)
8. Enmenduranna (Methuselah)
9. Sukurlam (Lamech)
10. Ziusudra (Noah)

The introduction of the Annunaki (An and Enlil] to the human genome via Ki and Ninlil, did not occur until Jared's generation (see the 6th Sumerian King). This means An and Enlil and the other Sumerian gods are not the real Gods of Creation known as Elohiym, but the Annunaki fallen angels who descended to Earth during Jared's generation and really screwed things up. The story of the real God of Creation preceeded the Annunaki story by many, MANY years according to the ancient texts, in the days of Alulim (Adam), the first king of the Sumer city, Eridu.

Enlil has a particularly bad spot in the history books since his Sumerian appelation as the Princely god of the Air, is shared with only one other entity in scripture. I'll give you three guesses who that other entity is....

It isn't necessary to generate new archaeological evidence specific to Noah because he was the King of Shuruppak (a city of Sumer) when the Flood began. The evidence is already there! If you're looking at Sumer, you're looking at Noah's and his predecessors. But since I know you won't take my word for it, let's look at the bible again and go for a little walk over to ancient Egypt.

The New World Translation of Genesis 10: 10 discusses the story of Nimrod briefly:

10 And the beginning of his kingdom came to be Ba'bel and E'rech and Ac'cad and Cal'neh, in the land of Shi'nar.

The Akkadians called their predecessors Shukmerians, and spoke of the Land of Shumer.
"It was, in fact, the biblical Land of Shin'ar. It was the land whose name - Shumer - literally meant the Land of the Watchers to the ancient Egyptians. It was indeed the Egyptian Ta Neter - Land of the Watchers, the land from which the gods had come to Egypt.
[Zecharia Sitchin, Stairway to Heaven]

The dictionary defines it thus:


In the Bible, a country on the lower courses of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

In the Egyptian Book of the Dead there are prayers for deliverance from the Watchers (Tchatcha, the princes of Osiris) , who came from Ta-Ur, the "Far Away Land." Ta-Ur is Ur in Sumeria!

It's interesting to note here that the passage says "From which the gods had come to Egypt." Remember, the Annunaki [Sons of God - et.al. Angels, and in the case of the Annunaki, FALLEN angels] had not been imprisoned yet. Satan and his cohorts were still intermingling and interfering with the human species on a massive scale. Oh no, this was not over yet! The Flood had only succeeded in wiping out the Nephilim who had been born since the days of Jared, the battle was won but the war wasn't over.

Another interesting note is the fact the Egyptians felt they needed to be delivered FROM the gods of Sumeria who had come to their land. The egyptians were praying to be SAVED from Tchatcha, the princes of Osiris. Literally, they were praying for deliverance from the Sons of God - not deliverance BY - but FROM! What is wrong with this picture?! You're about to find out.

Right about now you might be asking yourself why would the Annunaki want to continue to manipulate humanity and the human gene pool? - Answer: Jesus' generations [genetics] had to be as pure as Noah's in order for his sacrifice to be legitimate and the Annunaki were not interested in the salvation of humanity, but the destruction of it. There could be no Annunaki blood in Jesus - he had to be completely human, genetically, but supernaturally a Son of God in order for his sacrifice to be perfect covering of human sins. His birth HAD to be the result of YHVH Elohiym's supernatural intervention and not the result of sexual relations between angelic beings and humans. What the original Sons of God (Annunaki) had botched up completely, Jesus was going to provide a permanent fixative for.

Anyway, back to Noah. According to the Sumerian tale, the boat comes to rest on Mt. Nimush, which is today Pir Omar Gudrun by Kirkuk, Iraq in the Kurdish region, a 9000 ft. mountain of the ELBURZ MOUNTAINS (or Alborz). Just a short way off from Pir Omar Gudrun you can see, Mt. Ararat. The entire mountain region was probably known in Noah's time by its highest peak, Mt. Ararat, which is 16946 ft, the tallest mountain in Turkey and among the tallest in the world.

After the flood, the Annunaki began their mischief anew. As a result the Nephilim sprung up once more and became affiliated with an entire branching network of genetically altered humans. Among these are the Rephaim (Weakeners), who are themselves the basis for the Vampire myths - these same are called the unresurrectable and the undead because their souls were unresurrectable, whereas humans were resurrectable provided they didn't intermingle with the Annunaki or their offspring Nephilim. The Gibborim, giant Heroes, such as Goliath and the race of Philistines, are also of the Nephilim.

Today, most UFO-ologists refer to the Annunaki as Aliens and claim that the Annunaki are once again loose on the planet, wreaking genetic havoc on our race by abducting women and impregnating them with hybrids. This is, in reality, demonic abductions carried out by the Annunaki. But why? Jesus has already beaten the rap for the human race, there's no battle left to win ....or is there?

Establishing the Timeframe for the arrival of the Annunaki to the Earth.

Two major events happened simultaneously -

1) Human civilization sprung up across the globe
2) The Annunaki arrive on the planet.

According to our current dating methods, the earliest civilization was in Sumer (Sumeria, Shinar, Land of the Watchers). It was here that the Annunaki first descended to the planet. Not much later other civilizations sprung up almost immediately and simultaneously in various places:

The Antediluvian Timetable of Mesopatamian Civilization

Ubaid 5000-3500 B.C.
Uruk 3500-3100 B.C.
Jemdet Nasr 3100-2900 B.C. Annunaki arrive
Early Dynastic I-III 2900-2350 B.C.

The Antediluvian Timetable of Ancient Egyptian Civilization:

Predynastic until 3000
Archaic 3000 -- 2700 Annunaki arrive
OLD KINGDOM 2700 -- 2200

The Antediluvian Timetable of Nubia Civilization:

3000 to 2350 Annunaki arrive

The Antediluvian Timetable of Chinese Civilization:

2637 to 2350 Annunaki arrive

The Antediluvian Timetable of Indian (India) Civilization:

3000 to 2350 Annunaki arrive

The key word here is civilization. Prior to this time, humans were pretty much nomadic and uncivilized. With the influx of the Annunaki, we were taught the practices of warfare, medicine, weaponry, magic, architecture, writing, languages, religion, etc. What had once been a fairly uneventful and sedate life of food gathering and wandering, turned into a complex, organized system of cities with libraries and alphabets and languages and astrological charts, etc. The ancient Sumerians had established not just a language, but a specialized language - one for males, one for females. You had to learn, not just one language, but two, in order to communicate with one another.

This occured, as you can see from the above Antediluvian Timetables, almost simultaneously in places that were separated from each other by thousands of miles. As I indicated in the Circle of the Earth thread, it occured in a ring around the entire planet, along which not only did civilization and writing spring up, but various MAJOR religions did as well. The world's first known written languages, Egyptian Hieroglyphics and Sumerian Cuneiform, were also developed along this line of ancient sites. The Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Brahman and Buddhist religions, as well as ancient Egyptian and Peruvian religions, also sprang up along this line.

Prince Rai 09-09-2005 04:15 PM

Re: Niburu
interesting peace of reading

Mosaic 09-09-2005 07:14 PM

Re: Niburu
By the way, Annunaki is a Assyrian term for their Demiurge or Ultimate Reality, not some alien race living on some other planet. If Nuwabians adopt it so be it.
By the way, the discovery of a 10th planet is occuring as we speak. An astronomer by the name of Michael E. Brown found the same gravitational tug of ajacent planets being exerted on Pluto. This can only mean one thing....

PHI.1.618 09-09-2005 07:17 PM

Re: Niburu
Yeah, he called it sedna & he also discovered a possible 11th planet which he called Xena ...

PHI.1.618 09-09-2005 07:18 PM

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PASADENA, Calif. - Between feedings and diaper changes of his newborn daughter, Michael E. Brown may yet find an 11th planet.

Once conducted almost exclusively on cold, lonely nights, observational astronomy these days is often done under bright California sunshine.

When he has a few spare minutes, Dr. Brown, a professor of planetary astronomy at the California Institute of Technology, downloads images taken during a previous night by a robotically driven telescope at Palomar Observatory 100 miles away. Each night, the telescope scans a different swath of sky, photographing each patch three times, spaced an hour and a half apart.

In any one of the photographs, a planet or some other icy body at the edge of the solar system looks just like a star. Unlike a star it moves between the exposures.

Dr. Brown's computer programs flag potential discovery candidates for him to inspect. He quickly dismisses almost all of them - double images caused by a bumping of the telescope, blurriness from whirls in the atmosphere or random noise.

Sometimes, like last Jan. 5, he spots a moving dot.

Dr. Brown had rewritten his software to look for slower-moving and more distant objects.

On that morning, he was sitting in his Caltech office - unremarkable university turf sparsely decorated with a not-full bottle of Jack Daniel's, a dragon mobile, a dinosaur toothbrush, a Mr. Potato Head and other toys and knickknacks that long predated parenthood - and re-examining images from nearly a year and a half earlier, Oct. 21, 2003.

The first several candidates offered by the computer were the usual garbled images.

Then he saw it: a bright, unmistakably round dot moving across the star field.

He did a quick calculation. Even if this new object reflected 100 percent of the sunlight that hit it - and nothing is perfectly reflective - it would still be almost as large as Pluto.

That meant, without any additional data, Dr. Brown knew he had discovered what could be the 10th planet.

He noted the time: 11:20 a.m. Dr. Brown knew that astrologers would ask because they had asked after earlier discoveries of smaller Kuiper Belt objects.

He thought about a bet he had made with a friend, for five bottles of Champagne, that he would discover something larger than Pluto by Jan. 1, 2005, five days earlier. He sent her an e-mail message asking for a five-day extension.

Dr. Brown seems destined for future astronomy textbooks, either as the discoverer of the first new planet in 75 years or as the man who pushed Pluto out of the planetary pantheon. Astronomers have long argued over whether Pluto should be a planet and speculated that ice balls larger than Pluto might be hiding in the Kuiper Belt, a ring of debris beyond the orbit of Neptune. Several objects approaching the size of Pluto have been discovered in recent years.

Dr. Brown and two colleagues, David Rabinowitz of Yale and Chad Trujillo of the Gemini Observatory in Hawaii, are the first to point to something that is almost certainly larger than Pluto.

"If people want to get rid of Pluto, I'm more than happy to get rid of Pluto and say this one isn't a planet, either," Dr. Brown said.

"If culturally we would be willing to accept a scientific definition, that would be great," he continued. "The only thing that would make me unhappy is if Pluto remained a planet, and this one was not one."

So far, little is known about the new planet, which carries the temporary designation of 2003 UB313. It is currently nine billion miles from Sun, at the farthest point of its 560-year orbit.

A couple of centuries from now, its elliptical trajectory will take it within 3.3 billion miles of the Sun, closer than some of Pluto's orbit. And the orbit is surprisingly askew.

While most of the solar system circles the Sun in a flat disc, the new planet's orbit is tilted about 45 degrees from the disc.

Planet finding was not a career goal for Dr. Brown. Until recently, he was among those who argued that nothing in the Kuiper Belt deserved to be called a planet, not even Pluto.

Dr. Brown, 40, grew up in Alabama, a child of the 1970's, which left a mark in his speech patterns. For things he likes, he inevitably calls them "cool."

His father, an engineer at I.B.M., had moved to Huntsville to work on the giant Saturn rockets, which were being designed at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center to carry astronauts to the Moon.

When he was finishing up his undergraduate degree in physics at Princeton, he thought he would pursue theoretical work in cosmology, devising ideas about how the universe came together.

Then James Peebles, a physics professor at Princeton, mentioned to him how astronomy needed more observers actually looking at the sky.

"That was it," Dr. Brown recalled. "As soon as he said it, I was like, O.K."

In graduate school at the University of California, Berkeley, he still planned to work on the far, far away - distant galaxies that blast out loud radio signals. His thesis adviser, Hyron Spinrad, made his graduate students also work on comets, because he was interested in them and could not get help otherwise. Dr. Brown was captivated as well. "I thought, This stuff is cool," he said.

That brought his interests inside the solar system. Later Dr. Brown came across a tiny, little-used 24-inch telescope at the Lick Observatory outside San Jose. "You find the telescope first and then find your thesis program," he said.

His thesis topic turned out to be the volcanoes on Io, one of the moons of Jupiter, and how the gases from the volcanoes are swept up into Jupiter's magnetic fields, accelerated into orbit around Jupiter and then slammed back into Io at 125,000 miles per hour.

He entered the planet-searching business through a chance opportunity. When he arrived at Caltech a decade ago, the 48-inch Samuel Oschin Telescope at Palomar was just finishing up a large sky survey. While many astronomers clamor for use of Palomar's main 200-inch telescope, Dr. Brown realized he could easily get ample time on the smaller one.

So, just as he did at Lick, he looked for a project to fit the telescope.

The first Kuiper Belt object had been discovered a few years earlier, and Dr. Brown thought it would be useful to do a systematic sweep of the sky to look for them. In past centuries, the trick to discovering a planet was knowing exactly where to look. Now, computers and automated telescopes have allowed a new strategy: look everywhere.

Dr. Brown has a love of code names, so he and his colleagues decided if they ever found something larger than Pluto, they would give it the code name Xena, after the television series starring Lucy Lawless as an ancient Greek warrior.

It was also partly a nod to Planet X, a long-hypothesized massive planet in the outer solar system.

In 2002, Dr. Brown and Dr. Trujillo turned up their first big find: a Kuiper Belt object about 775 miles wide, or about as large as Pluto's moon, Charon. They named it Quaoar, after a god in Native American mythology, and learned their first lesson in astronomical discovery: find a pronounceable name. (Quaoar is pronounced KWAH-o-wahr.)

A year later, Dr. Brown, Dr. Trujillo and Dr. Rabinowitz of Yale found something stranger, an object larger than Quaoar and much father out, eight billion miles. And stranger yet, its 11,000-year orbit carries it out as far as 84 billion miles, far beyond anything else known in the solar system.

Initially, they excitedly thought it might be larger than Pluto and called it Xena for a few days. But further measurements and calculations indicated it was probably, at most, three-quarters the diameter of Pluto. When they announced the discovery last year, they gave it the name of Sedna, after an Inuit goddess.

The name was easily pronounceable, but it peeved some astronomers, especially amateur asteroid searchers, who felt Dr. Brown had again flouted the International Astronomical Union's naming rules. The rules prohibit discoverers from publicly announcing any name, even a tentative one, before the union approves it, a process that takes months to years. The critics wanted the union to rebuke Dr. Brown and reject the name.

One amateur astronomer, Reiner M. Stoss, even proposed Sedna as a name for a small, earlier discovered asteroid, to thwart Dr. Brown.

Dr. Brown admitted, "I consciously broke the rules," but he felt that the preliminary designation, 2003 VB12, was too obscure and confusing for a noteworthy addition to the solar system. "I thought, This is stupid," he said. "This object needs to have a name before it goes public."

After Sedna, the astronomers also realized that there could be more discoveries lurking in their photographs.

Dr. Brown finds that betting is an effective way to spur scientific progress. He would have found the planet sooner or later, but late last year he realized that his best hope for winning the Champagne bet was to sift through thousands of candidates in the old images.

On Dec. 20, going through the images from the previous May, he discovered a new bright Kuiper Belt object.

It was big, but not big enough. He gave that one the code name of Santa.

When he later discovered a moon around Santa, he gave the moon the code name Rudolph. (When he discovered yet another Kuiper Belt object in April, he continued in the holiday vein and code named that one Easter Bunny. He even had a code name for his daughter before she was born and he and his wife had not yet settled on a name. The whiteboard in his office had a list of tasks labeled "TDBP" - To Do Before Petunia.)

He spent Christmas through New Year's examining old images.

Nothing turned up.

Then on Jan. 5 - not Jan. 8 as he had said at his news conference - he finally found one he could call Xena. "What if it's the size of Mercury?" he mused in his notes.

This time, Dr. Brown decided to play by the International Astronomical Union's rules and did not announce his real intended name for 2003 UB313, leading to rumors that he had officially proposed Xena.

Meanwhile, Dr. Brown, on family leave until the end of year, found a new set of data to work with: his daughter Lilah's sleeping and eating patterns.

In the hospital, he and his wife had, like many new parents, written down a record of feeding and sleeping times.

Dr. Brown wrote a computer program to generate colorful charts from the information and put them online at lilahbrown.com.

"Who wouldn't be fascinated?" Dr. Brown asked. "Well, I guess, most people."

Black bars indicate the times that his wife, Diane Binney, is breast-feeding Lilah. Blue bars indicate when Dr. Brown is feeding a bottle to her. Green bars indicate the hours Lilah is awake and content; red bars indicate the fussy times.

Dr. Brown said he hoped to find a pattern in Lilah's sleep cycle - she has been waking up, on average, every 2.5 hours. If one nap lasted only 1.5 hours, would that mean the next nap would last 3.5 hours, giving her parents a chance to rest?

A chart with cloudlike splatter of data points gave the unfortunate answer. "There is absolutely no correlation," Dr. Brown said.

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/23/sc...&ex=1126324800

Mosaic 09-09-2005 07:22 PM

Re: Niburu
Word up PHI. But the 10th as of this moment is designated 2003 UB313....unless they have changed it since....in which case, my bad.

Mosaic 09-09-2005 07:23 PM

Re: Niburu
And there it is......
my bad

Identity 09-09-2005 07:32 PM

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Being a student of Biblical Hebrew, here's the deal.

Elohim is how its pronounced. It's a masciline plural noun. Most likely because the original Hebrews were polytheistic. It's one of the most common names for God in the Hebrew Bible. It can mean God or gods. It's used most often by itself before the fall of Adam. For example, after the fall of Adam, the word used most commonly is Yahweh Elohim.


In Biblical Hebrew heaven is a dual noun. There are three numbers of nouns in Hebrew. We are used to only singular and plural nouns in English. The dual occurs in nouns that naturally occur in pairs. For example body parts, like feet, ears and hands, are all in the dual form. Why is Heaven dual? That's an interesting theological debate.

Identity 09-09-2005 07:33 PM

Re: Niburu
As to the other stuff about aliens and all that other nonsense, that's just ridiculous.

soul controller 09-10-2005 04:38 AM

Re: Niburu
anunakhi means what?
in assyrian?

go back further in time
it means those who descended from a high(er) place
now that could mean fromn the mountians after the gilgamesh flood. after all agriculture started at 10,000 feeet in that very same regionn

identity why are talkin on aliens ridiculous?
do u know how diverse the universe is? not to mention OUR own genetic make up..
not to mention the oldest part of our brain, is a REPTILLIAN brain.
thats why people do the samre thinhs each week, have the same habits and like to do things in set routines..

on the nasa site it has planet X and it is gettin closer to the earth.. im pretty sure it will be in range of the earth by 2012. and will have an effect on many of the people on earth. not phsycially bUt deffinytaly will effect your electro magnetic energy


Fragmented 09-10-2005 05:09 AM

Re: Niburu
i think aliens are a possibility it's human supriority complex thats leads to this state of stupidity, which is actually quite since we think we're the only inteligent lifeforce in unimanagable amount of space

soul controller 09-10-2005 06:54 AM

Re: Niburu
lol thats some funny shit
some backwards ass hick
is like
'hey maa'h do u ere' what they saying.. der der they asying theirs higher intelligence out their than me..'

ahah thats the mentality of so many people on this forum
im suprised they are acutally WU fans

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