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diggy 08-16-2009 01:41 AM

Was Morpheus really a good guy?
 
Morpheus: In Greek mythology, Morpheus is the god of dreams.

He is the son or brother of Hypnos, the god of sleep.

Morpheus sends images of humans in dreams or visions, and is
responsible for shaping dreams.

In the movie, the Matrix:
• Keeps people in a permanent sleep-like state
• Creates a collective dream reality for the sleeping humans

In the movie, Morpheus:
• Forms, shapes and moulds things (the Construct, reality within the Matrix, people’s perception and experiences, etc)
• Appears in dreams (the Construct and the Matrix)
• Concentrates on the human elements (mentoring, influencing and controlling Neo, Trinity, the leaders of Zion, the people of Zion, etc)
• Sends images of humans (Neo, Trinity, etc) into dreams (the Construct, the Matrix) while giving shape to them (changes Neo and, presumably Trinity, from average people into powerful, knowledgeable, reality-altering beings)
• Shapes dreams (controls the parameters of the Construct, controls what Neo experiences, etc)

So if Morpheus is the god of dreams and Hypnos is the god of sleep, this would suggest that Morpheus (from the movie) would be aligned with the Architect. Without sleep (the enslaved humans) how can Morpheus reign over the dream (the Matrix)?

Another thing that incriminates Morpheus is the fact that his ship is named the Nebuchadnezzar. History tells us that Nebuchadnezzar was the King of Babylon.

Nebuchadnezzar was also responsible for conquering and destroying Zion enslaving and exiling its people from their homeland!!!





Is Morpheus really trying to help free the slaves (humans) and save Zion?

If the Matrix (the movie) is a metaphor for our existence, who is OUR Morpheus?

drippie k 08-16-2009 05:00 AM

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Steve Urkel 08-16-2009 08:39 AM

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Yeah he was a good guy, he raised Tre right and helped him overcome the trials and tribulations of living in the hood

Urban_Journalz 08-16-2009 07:24 PM

I believe he was a good guy, because dreams are visions. Signs and warnings. Morpheus was telling Neo to believe in everything that he was taught NOT to believe in. Starting with himself. One quote that he gave to Neo, during the jump program, illustrates this, "You have to let it all go Neo. Fear, doubt and disbelief. FREE.....YOUR MIND."

Peace

Uncle Steezo 08-16-2009 08:15 PM

good observation.
the matrix movie was all fucked up tho.
the esoteric elements got twisted in the unauthorized adaptation from sophia stewarts original story.



Urban_Journalz 08-16-2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Crow ESQ (Post 1656476)
good observation.
the matrix movie was all fucked up tho.
the esoteric elements got twisted in the unauthorized adaptation from sophia stewarts original story.



It's ill that you mention this, because someone approached me with the same thing. He couldn't remember the name of the author, but he stated that it had something to do with Black People being the targets and The Government (as usual) taking the place of The Machines. He also said that she was trying to sue the Wachowski Brothers for stealing her material. Have you read the book? If so, how is it? If not, have you heard good things about it.?

diggy 08-16-2009 08:31 PM

"the esoteric elements got twisted..."


^^Ya, there are some inconsistencies.

Uncle Steezo 08-16-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz (Post 1656487)
It's ill that you mention this, because someone approached me with the same thing. He couldn't remember the name of the author, but he stated that it had something to do with Black People being the targets and The Government (as usual) taking the place of The Machines. He also said that she was trying to sue the Wachowski Brothers for stealing her material. Have you read the book? If so, how is it? If not, have you heard good things about it.?


i haven't been able to get my hands on a copy.

google "mother of the matrix" you'll find articles and vids about her.

the original story is a religious one.

i believe her lawsuit prevented the matrix from being nominated for academy awards.

as of 2007, she was supposed to get broken off some loot by the wachoski/warner bros.

LORD NOSE 08-16-2009 09:13 PM

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9...iastewart1.jpg




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_Stewart















also check out a movie called "Something The Lord Made" Starring Mos Def

diggy 08-16-2009 09:27 PM

If what she claims is tru, next time black writers and others should try to write, produce and direct their own films and profit from them.

Uncle Steezo 08-16-2009 09:57 PM

just off the top of the head...

spike lee
john singleton
tyler perry
chris rock
bill duke
hype williams
oprah
terry mcmillan
forest whitaker


we gettin there man but hollywood is a hard nut to crack.

ChristO 08-17-2009 09:02 AM

yeah, trues. morpheus, to morph...lucipher, nebudchadnezzar. warning.
Nio was the chosen one. lucipher coaxed him into being Nimrod...instructed Nio to follow the rabbit...where he Nio would find who he was/is.
13X was Mr. Smith. the system [matrix] is scared, 'cause it had suh'm to do with his death in 6.69, but He could not be killed. [to be cont'd].
shiii, who said I'm on PCP?

diggy 08-17-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristO (Post 1656982)
yeah, trues. morpheus, to morph...lucipher, nebudchadnezzar. warning.
Nio was the chosen one. lucipher coaxed him into being Nimrod...instructed Nio to follow the rabbit...where he Nio would find who he was/is.
13X was Mr. Smith. the system [matrix] is scared, 'cause it had suh'm to do with his death in 6.69, but He could not be killed. [to be cont'd].
shiii, who said I'm on PCP?


Thank you.

I wish more people could be into symbolism cuz that's what's thrown at us in movies and things. Names, numbers, colours, shapes, and other things...they throw this at us and many of it is ignored.

I would like to know others take on who Morpheus is in real life, in our matrix.

Ya, the devil is full of tricks and could change his shape.

What if the devil takes the shape of someone who you think is helping you?

What if Zion is actually a big prison?

Olive Oil Goombah 08-17-2009 07:30 PM

i watched the matrix the other day and the sentinels seemed like the cure to the cancer of morpheus and his crew.

Uncle Steezo 08-17-2009 08:35 PM

if you seen the animatrix, highly recommended, you learn the story of how the war began. the machines wanted to live in peace with humans. they approached us in goodwill. we declared war on them. then destroyed our own planet as a last ditch effort.


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