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dns 06-16-2005 07:09 PM

Why the pass for Kanye?
 
Nas always get hit with the hyprocricy rant, yet Kanye gets a pass. I see right through Kanye's fascade. I feel he uses the concious mc as a gimmick. How could the Jiggamen tell Nas 'is it black girls lost/or you owe me ice'. Mr. Businessman should look at his own artist. First the Workout Plan, now Diamonds from Sierra Leonne. Somebody's been studying Nas.

By the way Hype Williams is still an incredible director.

Ironlungz 06-16-2005 07:29 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
kanye is the first to point out that hypocrisy.... Just listen to the college dropout....

tical2000 06-16-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ironlungz
kanye is the first to point out that hypocrisy.... Just listen to the college dropout....

yep...........NAS will beat you over the head with how anti-pop he is, then he does a song with GENUWINE......

.....that being said NAS is on the right path with his last couple albums

dns 06-16-2005 07:41 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
So Kanye does get the double standards?

T.H.O.M.A.S. Man 06-16-2005 07:46 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
nas>kanye first of all..

i think everyone's noticed this, songs like new york state of mind glorifying crime and then 'i can'. i cant explain it, i still like nas though. a lot of rappers do this, they rap about crime even if they never did it, even biggie and pac. (shocking, i know)

THE W 06-16-2005 07:51 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
is because of these hypocrisies that i believe all hiphop artists need to just make their music and KEEP THEIR FUCKIN MOUTH SHUT!

dns 06-16-2005 07:54 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
I had the notion Kanye was glorifying diamond, now I hear the remix and he's mentioning kids arms getting chop off in Sierra Leonne. If this was Nas, he would of caugh heat. But, Kanye seems to get a sanding ovation for every unoriginal thing he does.

Sorry I've seen the greats: RZA (production), and Nas (lyrics) do a much better job innovating the rap game. Kanye's not doing anything new or better.

tical2000 06-16-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dns
I had the notion Kanye was glorifying diamond, now I hear the remix and he's mentioning kids arms getting chop off in Sierra Leonne. If this was Nas, he would of caugh heat. But, Kanye seems to get a sanding ovation for every unoriginal thing he does.

Sorry I've seen the greats: RZA (production), and Nas (lyrics) do a much better job innovating the rap game. Kanye's not doing anything new or better.

at this moment in 2005.....I dont think there is anyone in the rap game making beats better than KANYE WEST

tical2000 06-16-2005 08:02 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
as far as changing the rap game........KANYE WEST has, since BLUEPRINT dropped everybody uses those sped up soul samples now......so he changed the game

dns 06-16-2005 08:16 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
I already heard The RZA, Beatminerz, And DJ. Premiere do a better job of soul sampling in '93.

tical2000 06-16-2005 08:24 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dns
I already heard The RZA, Beatminerz, And DJ. Premiere do a better job of soul sampling in '93.

Sure I agree 100%.......but right now in 2005 no other producer is killin it like KANYE

PN_00 06-16-2005 08:34 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
i dont think kanye tries to be necessarily a 'conscious' emcee...just not a 'thugs/guns/hoes' type one, in which case 'the new workout plan' is fine since he's not being a thug or anything, just more pop, which kanye never said he wasn't

tical2000 06-16-2005 08:36 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
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Originally Posted by PN_00
well, you know RZA's been doin that since shadowboxin...

yep RZA is the master........but after BLUEPRINT dropped, and album has not come out that does not use the speed up soul sample

MefMan36 06-16-2005 09:10 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
Kanye says hes a hypocrite all the time. Listen to college dropout and he says it a couple of times.

THE W 06-16-2005 09:26 PM

Re: Why the pass for Kanye?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tical2000
as far as changing the rap game........KANYE WEST has, since BLUEPRINT dropped everybody uses those sped up soul samples now......so he changed the game

yeah kanye bit off Rza and everyone bit off kanye

kinda like how jay-z bit off biggie and now everyone is biting jay-z


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