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knewcheeze 05-07-2010 06:59 AM

who are the real Muslims?
 
PEACE
okay Muhammad said 72 sects
will burn in the hell fire

so who exactly is the sects thats gonna burn?

most people would say Sunni.....but
eye have NO CLUE how one could
make such a claim.....

lets take VACCINATIONS for instance
and test it against this "hell fire".....lol

Vaccinations got PORK in them
Vaccines MUST contain all types of
"haaram" nastiness....thats the very
idea of a Vaccine

Now how can one inject pork into
themselves....and their babies....
and still have the AUDACITY to
call themselves Muslim?

sounds like HELL FIRE to me!!!!!

even if one didn't know this information....
the fact that their so called Orthidox
Islamic Sect(Sunni ect) didn't INFORM
them of the Pig contained in Vaccines
raises my eye brows as to who is
the real Muslims!!!!!!!

the ONLY so called Orthidox Muslims eye know
of who forbid Vaccines was Muslims in SUDAN

actually to go to Mecca the Saudi government
requires PROOF of vaccinations!!!!!

so.....here you have the so called
center of Muslim world....requiring
its followers to inject pork into them
and their babies.......to go to the Kaba

and you poor misguided brother and sisters
think Sunni is NOT one of the sects headed
for hell fire???? LOL.....wake up

NOW.....who is the ONLY Islamic
sect that eye have ever heard of
who refuses to get Vaccinated???

well....eye just mentioned Sudan....who
banned vaccines because they didn't
trust white people.....lol

but who else....who else.....

oh thats right....
the 5 percent in the poor
part know the truth about
the swined out vaccines

yes you might have a
self proclaimed 5 percenter
here and there that gets vaccinated
and even might join the USA military.....

but in general most 5 percenters
would avoid Vaccines and western
medicine

so who's headed for the hell fire????

eye am a 5 percenter....technically..
and eye tell Sunni's that Vaccines
got pork in em.......and they had no
idea before.....

so who da FUCK you think is headed
for the hellfire????

the person who injects pork in his
babies....or the one who doesn't?????

answer=the one who doesn't
inject pork in their babies

LOL

moving on......the Mutazalia
are the ones who corrupted Islam.....
and they were admittedly
influenced by greek thought

the early Muslims took the Quran
literally....when the Quran
says Allah got hands eyes
feet........they took this literally

but the Mutazalia banned all of
that....the Mutazalia said
Allah is unceen and only unceen(Greek influence)

shit....the great AHmad Ben Hanbal was jailed
because of his literal interpertations of
the QUran

and now today the Mutazlia's corruption
is now the belief of the orthidox Muslim world

so who's headed for the hell fire????

people who follow a sect of ISlam
that is influenced by some
Greeks?

or people who take the Quran
at its word????(Allah has
hands, eyes, feet, sits
on a throne, feet rest on the stool)

moving on....lets talk about the Arabization
of Islam as it pertains to this hell fire

the African Jesus was a Muslim

the African's SOlomon and David was Muslim

Moses who passed as Pharoahs grandson
was Muslim

so why does so called Orthidox Islam
claim that to be a Muslim you have
to follow Muhammad over every
other prophet....and Muhammad
just happens to be the only Prophet
who was identifiably Arab

and if you even MENTION
to most so called orthidox Muslims
the fact that Africa gave birth
to every God damn civilization
and religion in these past 50,000
years......they get nervous
and figgidy....they don't wanna
hear it and will more than likely
whine and say some catch phrase
like "Islam is not about race"

well no shit sherlock.....so
why is it a MUST that one
must follow the ONE arab
prophet of ISlam and discard
all the other African prophets

Honey is cure?????

common man.....if you eating
a meat based diet.....honey
ain't gonna cure shit

so who's headed for the hell fire?????

the Arab Nationalist or
the one who follows
all the prophets equally

who's headed for the hell fire????

LOL

Hellspawn 05-07-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884357)
PEACE
okay Muhammad said 72 sects
will burn in the hell fire
.
.
.
well no shit sherlock.....so
why is it a MUST that one
must follow the ONE arab
prophet of ISlam and discard
all the other African prophets
.
.
.
who's headed for the hell fire????

LOL

So why do you take what he said into consideration ?

Edgar Erebus 05-07-2010 07:29 AM

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knewcheeze 05-07-2010 08:47 AM

fffff(hi slim t)ffffff
 
slim t

hi!

PEACE!!!!!!!

why....well eye can think of 2 reasons

a)Muhammad son of Abdullah is a prophet
of Allah

b)because CERTAIN
so called Orthidox Muslims(Sunni's etc)
seem to throw that "72 sects hell fire"
phrase around alot accompanied
by Kaafir and other hatefull shit

if eye am such a kaafir according to them
why is it that om the one telling THEM
not to inject pork in their babies?

why am eye the one who is warning
THem(Sunni's etc) of the
hellfire(vacinnes with pork and other
abominations)?

now...om not saying everyone in
the 5 percent sects is perfect either

om just trying to get the so called
Orthidox Muslim world and others
to start thinking free!!!!!

CLEARLY Sunni Islam
could be classified as one
of those sects headed
for the hellfire

you cee the people on
the nile and in "Ethiopia" who was
the PRECURSORS
to "Egypt"(long before 4000bc)
was practising Islam too
without a scripture

and even when EGypt came into
existence....there wasn't just
10 commandments....
there was like 400 and sum change
mah man....lol

but these so called Orthidoxy of Islam
say to be a true Muslim you must
follow the example of Muhammad
and follow the QUran over every other
school of thought....over every other prophet

the only clearly idendifyably Arab prophet(Muhammad pbuh)

and when eye say Identifyably Arab
in my broken english
eye mean CULTURALLY related
to the culture thats known commonly as
a Arab nowadays
you know...
loves to eat lamb kabob
chicken fish
thinks honey cures diseases
eats dates(natures best sweeteener in my opinion)

why Muhammad over Jesus, Melchezidek, the green one etc

and more importantly why Muhammad over
SELF!!!!!!!!

the real holy place is mental

om digressing

lets give a little run down

lets look at sum differences in Muhammad
and Isa(Jesus)

Jesus the black man with hair like wool
was schooled in HIGH SCIENCE
he studied in EGypt and other
places......alot of that miracle
science he was dealing with he
LEARNED from EGypt and other places

it didn't just happen magically

Jesus knew all the higher maths
he knew all the higher science

he was a STUDENT

and he was raised from Birth
with a determined Idea and a strict
Islamic law...nothing impure touched him
he was told since he was born
that he is Gods Son(Via Davids Psalms)

Kings brought gifts to him at his birth!!!!!

his subconcious mind had been magnetized
from birth by those around him feeding
him autosuggestions

now Muhammad on the other hand
he couldn't even read

when Jah breel(Gabriel)((whom Muhammad
said his visitations was less painfull
when he came in the form of a man))(((lol)))

first appeared to Muhammad

Muhammad tryed to jump off the cliff!!!!!

he thought he had gone mad

christian monks told Muhammad
he was a prophet long before Muhammad
met Khadijah

now eye loves Muhammad and the lessons
in his history but how could a submitter to
Allah believe that everyone has to follow
Muhammad over everyone else????

the rules and regulations that Allah
lays down in the Quran is NOT
the highest form of Islam
or the strictest....

the Quran even says "we made it easy for you"
Bilals footsteps was heard in heaven

and like eye said

so called ORthidox Muslims and damn near
everyone else gets NERVOUS when
you tell them the African origin
of Islam or their culture

Africa gave birth to every culture
in the past 50,000 years and
everyone is trying to sweep this under
the rug....and to say that "you must
follow Muhammad and the QUran
above every other manifestation of
Islam" seems like trying to sweep
Africa under the rug

why do eye have to follow the Arab
over the originators?

furthermore....why do we
have to follow the defineation
of the so called Orthidox Islamic world
of whut is ISlam???

Islam is submission to Allah
and Allah permeates everything
in his ceen and unceen form

so ANY truth(thoughts with
heavy electricity attatched)
therefore must be whut Allah speaks
and thats Islam

So to piss even more people off here
we go....(although thats not my determined idea)

when DOn Juan Matus was out there
in the deserts getting Carlos
castaneda the king sized indulger
HIGH as a motherfucka WITHOUT using
any kind of Power plants(weed, mushrooms, peyote)

thats no different from whut had Jahbreel
put on Muhammad to have him about
to jump off the cliff

Islam is Islam.....DOn Juan Matus is
the Islam that evolved out of
"Central America"

eye thank Allah for me stumbling
upon Don Juan Matus....it has been
like the cap on the on the pyramid
so to speak

the I CHing and Lao Tzu is the
Islam that sprung out of China

and since om reading the Gospel
of Hip Hop as we speak owl take it there

Hiphop is the Islam that sprung out
out after the Messengers(sura 77:11) departed
(Fard Muhammad, Haile Selassie,
Father Allah, BOb Marley, Peter Tosh etc)

matter of fact eye can say that due
to the fact that Hiphop will forever be
my primary loyalty when it all goes down
eye will reach forms of Islam higher
than damn near anybody from any sect

Rastafari is Islam too
Haile Selassie's wife was decended from
Muhammad
Selassie was a no pork eatin "Christian"

eye especially love the belief held by
the Rasta's that Jah(Allah) will exalt
those you least expected

in closing

the so called
Orthidox Muslim world is making
the same mistakes that Muhammad
came to correct

one of them being the 6 year old
childish infantile fairy tale belief
of Christians that anyone who
don't claim Jesus is God is bound
for the hell fire....lol

translated "my culture is the only culture
that is right" or "Islam as taught to prophet
Muhammad is whut you follow above everything
else"

not realizing the historical
context of the Quran in that it was book
given to sum people living amoungst sum
savage Arabs!!!!!

and look at the so called Orthidox
Muslim world itself

om sorry....eye don't believe people
should get their hand
chopped off for stealing

thats not the highest level of Islam

everything eye just said basically
explains why at the end of the day
my loyalty is first to Hiphop

and after that
the 5 percent and his imperial majesty

PEACE!!!!!!!

Hellspawn 05-07-2010 09:09 AM

Well, I suppose you never read the Quran because you say that sunni muslims don't believe in the other prophets with certaincy while it is admitted that we do.

I would have answered you point by point if I suspect that you're serious and that theres a way to build here but "eye" see you goin to different and opposite directions in the same time with ironic ideas and speech.

LORD NOSE 05-07-2010 09:15 AM

if the puzzle pieces keep fighting each other, they'll never see the big picture

knewcheeze 05-07-2010 09:37 AM

fffffffff
 
PEACE!!!!!

"Well, I suppose you never read the Quran because you say that sunni muslims don't believe in the other prophets with certaincy while it is admitted that we do."

huh???

eye NEVER said Sunni Muslims don't believe in other prophets

all the shit eye typed and you can't even
address what eye actually wrote?

whut eye DID.... SAY.... COUNTLESS times in my
slang broken english rant is that
SUnni muslims other so called orthidox Muslims
SAY "you MUST follow Muhammad and the QUran
over and above EVERY other source of ISlam"

Sunni Muslims not only transgress against Allah
by SAYING the above but also they cannot even
obey the laws laid down in the QUran nor
can they accept the QUran in its pure form!!!!!!!

for example...getting Vaccinated as ordered by Europeans

and for example.....denying the verses in the QUran
which give Allah human attributes

AHmad Ben Hanbal and his kind didn't
deny those verses....he verified that
Allah made man in his image

"you claim your ugly and digusting
faces are in the image of Allah
with your curly hair" to paraphrase
is the type of comment that
came from the ORIGINATORS
of Sunni and sects like it

eye can get the exact quote if you wish

"I would have answered you point by point if I suspect that you're serious"

huh????

who's gonna save the young
black, brown, red, yellow and white
babies of
so called orthidox Muslims from
their parents handing them over
to sum cracker ass doctor
and letting him or her inject
SWINE through a needle?????

who's gonna prevent babies from
being poisoned????

WE are......and obviously not the SUnni Imam's or those
like them...

eye am dead AIDS CANCER FIGHTING
Liyoto Machida running down the street
through
a tornado
with sizzors in my hand serious my man!!!!!

seriously motherfuckin seriously serious

eye don't want babies poisoned.....

"and that theres a way to build here but "eye" see you goin to different and opposite directions in the same time with ironic ideas and speech. "

well...eye don't know....it might help for
you to try and prove some of the smartdumb
shit eye just wrote today wrong

but if thats the route you gonna go....

eye always leave an escape route
like sun tzu said

PEACE!!!!!!

PEACE!!!!!

"Well, I suppose you never read the Quran because you say that sunni muslims don't believe in the other prophets with certaincy while it is admitted that we do."

huh???

eye NEVER said Sunni Muslims don't believe in other prophets

all the shit eye typed and you can't even
address what eye actually wrote?

whut eye DID.... SAY.... COUNTLESS times in my
slang broken english rant is that
SUnni muslims other so called orthidox Muslims
SAY "you MUST follow Muhammad and the QUran
over and above EVERY other source of ISlam"

Sunni Muslims not only transgress against Allah
by SAYING the above but also they cannot even
obey the laws laid down in the QUran nor
can they accept the QUran in its pure form!!!!!!!

for example...getting Vaccinated as ordered by Europeans

and for example.....denying the verses in the QUran
which give Allah human attributes

AHmad Ben Hanbal and his kind didn't
deny those verses....he verified that
Allah made man in his image

"you claim your ugly and digusting
faces are in the image of Allah
with your curly hair" to paraphrase
is the type of comment that
came from the ORIGINATORS
of Sunni and sects like it

eye can get the exact quote if you wish

"I would have answered you point by point if I suspect that you're serious"

huh????

who's gonna save the young
black, brown, red, yellow and white
babies of
so called orthidox Muslims from
their parents handing them over
to sum cracker ass doctor
and letting him or her inject
SWINE through a needle?????

who's gonna prevent babies from
being poisoned????

WE are......and obviously not the SUnni Imam's or those
like them...

eye am dead AIDS CANCER FIGHTING
Liyoto Machida running down the street
through
a tornado
with sizzors in my hand serious my man!!!!!

seriously motherfuckin seriously serious

eye don't want babies poisoned.....

"and that theres a way to build here but "eye" see you goin to different and opposite directions in the same time with ironic ideas and speech. "

well...eye don't know....it might help for
you to try and prove some of the smartdumb
shit eye just wrote today wrong

but if thats the route you gonna go....

eye always leave an escape route
like sun tzu said

PEACE!!!!!!

knewcheeze 05-07-2010 09:39 AM

fffffff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS (Post 1884436)
if the puzzle pieces keep fighting each other, they'll never see the big picture

electric

knewcheeze 05-07-2010 09:51 AM

ffffffff
 
and if eye could quote
professor X

oh and by the way

there are some so called
SUnni Muslims and other so called
Orthidox Muslims who eye
know personally and consider
family and furthmore theres
some so called Sunni Muslims
who eye most defineatly ADMIRE

for instance eye admire
and have ETERNAL
praises for those so called
orthidox Muslims who are
defending their homelands
against United Snakes,
European and any
other form of IMPERIALISM

your bravery is quite humbling!!!!!!

PEACE to those
revolutionaries
who are defending their
homeland and simultaneously
NOT killing civilians

On 10 June 2006 the Lebanese army arrested members of an alleged Israeli spy ring, including Mahmoud Rafeh, his wife, and two children.[60] Police discovered bomb-making materials, code machines and other espionage equipment in his home.[60] Rafeh reportedly confessed to the Majzoub killings and to working for Mossad,[61] and admitted that his cell had assassinated two Hezbollah leaders in 1999 and 2003 and the son of Ahmed Jibril, leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, in 2002.[62] Former Lebanese Minister Walid Jumblatt, an outspoken critic of Hezbollah, suspected that the exposure of the spy ring was a Hezbollah fabrication.[60]

Hellspawn 05-07-2010 11:15 AM

I'll give you the answer from the Sunni point of view from none less than the quran and who tell you the opposite is a lier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
why....well eye can think of 2 reasons

a)Muhammad son of Abdullah is a prophet
of Allah

b)because CERTAIN
so called Orthidox Muslims(Sunni's etc)
seem to throw that "72 sects hell fire"
phrase around alot accompanied
by Kaafir and other hatefull shit

This engages only the person who said it, if the prophet wanted us to know who are the 72 sects he would have cited them. So it's not up to me or you or the sunni muslim you know to define wich sect is going to survive coz you dont ever know. And even someone who belong to one of the wrong 71 sects can be saved from hell because God is all merciful.

"Recall that Moses said to his people, "O my people, you have wronged your souls by worshipping the calf. You must repent to your Creator. You shall kill your egos. This is better for you in the sight of your Creator." He did redeem you. He is the Redeemer, Most Merciful.." (Quran 2:54)

"Say: If you love God, then follow me, God will love you and forgive you your faults, and He is Forgiver, Most MercifuL" (Quran 3:89

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
if eye am such a kaafir according to them
why is it that om the one telling THEM
not to inject pork in their babies?

why am eye the one who is warning
THem(Sunni's etc) of the
hellfire(vacinnes with pork and other
abominations)?

You'll be surely rewarded for this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
now...om not saying everyone in
the 5 percent sects is perfect either

om just trying to get the so called
Orthidox Muslim world and others
to start thinking free!!!!!

CLEARLY Sunni Islam
could be classified as one
of those sects headed
for the hellfire

Well, again, it's not up to you to say this. Only God knows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
you cee the people on
the nile and in "Ethiopia" who was
the PRECURSORS
to "Egypt"(long before 4000bc)
was practising Islam too
without a scripture

and even when EGypt came into
existence....there wasn't just
10 commandments....
there was like 400 and sum change
mah man....lol

It is highly probable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
but these so called Orthidoxy of Islam
say to be a true Muslim you must
follow the example of Muhammad
and follow the QUran over every other
school of thought....over every other prophet

the only clearly idendifyably Arab prophet(Muhammad pbuh)

and when eye say Identifyably Arab
in my broken english
eye mean CULTURALLY related
to the culture thats known commonly as
a Arab nowadays
you know...
loves to eat lamb kabob
chicken fish
thinks honey cures diseases
eats dates(natures best sweeteener in my opinion)

why Muhammad over Jesus, Melchezidek, the green one etc

You got it wrong bro. Sunni muslims believe in all the prophets and respect them and love them equally.

"We did not send before you except men whom we inspired, chosen from the people of various communities. Did they not roam the earth and see the consequences for those before them? The abode of the Hereafter is far better for those who lead a righteous life. Would you then understand?" (Quran 12;109)

"We have inspired you, as we inspired Noah and the prophets after him. And we inspired Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, the Patriarchs, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon. And we gave David the Psalms.
Messengers we have told you about, and messengers we never told you about. And GOD spoke to Moses directly.
Messengers to deliver good news, as well as warnings. Thus, the people will have no excuse when they face GOD, after all these messengers have come to them. GOD is Almighty, Most Wise." (Quran 4:163-165)

As for Muhammad, he was the last and final messenger and he came to correct the corrupted scriptures, it happends he is arabic, this is the wisdom of god, he could have been israelite like Moses and Jesus or from Ur like Abraham.

Did not god said in the Quran : "We have revealed it an Arabic Quran, that you may understand." (Quran 12:2)

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
and more importantly why Muhammad over
SELF!!!!!!!!

the real holy place is mental

Do you mean over self in the sense of discovering god by your own mental like abraham or self in the sense of doing what you like and worship the way your brain dictate you ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
om digressing

lets give a little run down

lets look at sum differences in Muhammad
and Isa(Jesus)

Jesus the black man with hair like wool
was schooled in HIGH SCIENCE
he studied in EGypt and other
places......alot of that miracle
science he was dealing with he
LEARNED from EGypt and other places

it didn't just happen magically

"GOD will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary, remember My blessings upon you and your mother. I supported you with the Holy Spirit, to enable you to speak to the people from the crib, as well as an adult. I taught you the scripture, wisdom, the Torah, and the Gospel. Recall that you created from clay the shape of a bird by My leave, then blew into it, and it became a live bird by My leave. You healed the blind and the leprous by My leave, and revived the dead by My leave. Recall that I protected you from the Children of Israel who wanted to hurt you, despite the profound miracles you had shown them. The disbelievers among them said, `This is obviously magic'." (Quran 5:110)

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
Jesus knew all the higher maths
he knew all the higher science

he was a STUDENT

and he was raised from Birth
with a determined Idea and a strict
Islamic law...nothing impure touched him
he was told since he was born
that he is Gods Son(Via Davids Psalms)

"The Jews said, "Ezra is the son of GOD," while the Christians said, "Jesus is the son of GOD!" These are blasphemies uttered by their mouths. They thus match the blasphemies of those who have disbelieved in the past. GOD condemns them. They have surely deviated." (Quran 9;30)

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
Kings brought gifts to him at his birth!!!!!

his subconcious mind had been magnetized
from birth by those around him feeding
him autosuggestions

now Muhammad on the other hand
he couldn't even read

Do you think the Most High who created the universe and the earth and evrything inbetween could'nt make a prophet out of someone who can't read ? This is an argument that I could use because this non reading man from nowhere in the desert came with a book from god that amazed the entire globe affected the lives of hundreds of millions of men and women, building great cities and great civilizations, provoking the clash of mighty armies and raising from the dust beauty and splendor unknown previously untill today, so from your point of view he must get more credits.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
When Jah breel(Gabriel)((whom Muhammad
said his visitations was less painfull
when he came in the form of a man))(((lol)))

first appeared to Muhammad

Muhammad tryed to jump off the cliff!!!!!

he thought he had gone mad

I don't know where you took this story from but Muhammad heard Jibreel voice first and this Angel sent from god asked him to "read" twice before he squeezed him and revealed the first surah to him. So you can keep your comical piece of theater of a man trying to jump from a cliff for your funny self.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
christian monks told Muhammad
he was a prophet long before Muhammad
met Khadijah

First it was jew monks that encountered him as a baby in the hands of the woman who breast-feeded him, then they said to this woman that this baby possesses the marks of prophethood.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
now eye loves Muhammad and the lessons
in his history but how could a submitter to
Allah believe that everyone has to follow
Muhammad over everyone else????

You seem to have an identity/cultural problem with Muhammad. why muhammad ? why muhammad ? why muhammad ?

nobody ask you to dress like an arab and ride a camel to be muslim. You can practice islam the way you are dressin, workin, eatin (except pork and wine :)) and walkin, talkin etc... Islam wont make you a grown bear, white robe dressed cheikh. Am I looking like that ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
the rules and regulations that Allah
lays down in the Quran is NOT
the highest form of Islam
or the strictest....

Well sorry but it is the highest.

"And this Quran is not such as could be forged by those besides Allah, but it is a verification of that which is before it and a clear explanation of the book, there is no doubt in it, from the Lord of the worlds." (Quran 10:37)


Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
and like eye said

so called ORthidox Muslims and damn near
everyone else gets NERVOUS when
you tell them the African origin
of Islam or their culture

Sure, there were africans that were submitted to god as muslims as god said that every damn nation recieved at least a messenger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
Africa gave birth to every culture
in the past 50,000 years and
everyone is trying to sweep this under
the rug....and to say that "you must
follow Muhammad and the QUran
above every other manifestation of
Islam" seems like trying to sweep
Africa under the rug

why do eye have to follow the Arab
over the originators?

Identity problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
furthermore....why do we
have to follow the defineation
of the so called Orthidox Islamic world
of whut is ISlam???

Islam is submission to Allah
and Allah permeates everything
in his ceen and unceen form

so ANY truth(thoughts with
heavy electricity attatched)
therefore must be whut Allah speaks
and thats Islam

Well, you want to choose what you like from the Quran (that you discovered in America not long time ago) and make it your own sausage and pretend it was originated from Africa ? What you believe in never came from Africa, I know ... I live in Africa :lmao:

Scholars and theologist from around the world and from different religions admit that Quran is a revelation ; a man who can't read can't bring such a masterpiece, it can't neither be copied from the ancient religion because theres so much facts that werent in the previous scripture that have been revealed by the Quran (such as Pharaoh ministers that were called "Haman" nobody knew what this meant untill they discovered hiow to read hierogliphs...and alot more). So it is words of god, this is the source my brother.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
So to piss even more people off here
we go....(although thats not my determined idea)

when DOn Juan Matus was out there
in the deserts getting Carlos
castaneda the king sized indulger
HIGH as a motherfucka WITHOUT using
any kind of Power plants(weed, mushrooms, peyote)

thats no different from whut had Jahbreel
put on Muhammad to have him about
to jump off the cliff

Great wisdom *applause*

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
Islam is Islam.....DOn Juan Matus is
the Islam that evolved out of
"Central America"

eye thank Allah for me stumbling
upon Don Juan Matus....it has been
like the cap on the on the pyramid
so to speak

the I CHing and Lao Tzu is the
Islam that sprung out of China

and since om reading the Gospel
of Hip Hop as we speak owl take it there

Hiphop is the Islam that sprung out
out after the Messengers(sura 77:11) departed
(Fard Muhammad, Haile Selassie,
Father Allah, BOb Marley, Peter Tosh etc)

matter of fact eye can say that due
to the fact that Hiphop will forever be
my primary loyalty when it all goes down
eye will reach forms of Islam higher
than damn near anybody from any sect

Rastafari is Islam too
Haile Selassie's wife was decended from
Muhammad
Selassie was a no pork eatin "Christian"

eye especially love the belief held by
the Rasta's that Jah(Allah) will exalt
those you least expected

You're hallucinating here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
in closing

the so called
Orthidox Muslim world is making
the same mistakes that Muhammad
came to correct

one of them being the 6 year old
childish infantile fairy tale belief
of Christians that anyone who
don't claim Jesus is God is bound
for the hell fire....lol

translated "my culture is the only culture
that is right" or "Islam as taught to prophet
Muhammad is whut you follow above everything
else"

Well like I said it aint about culture, it's about belief and worship. You can keep your own culture, it aint in contradiction with islam. I think because you see muslims growin a bear and wearing I dont now what you call it over their head, it must be an obligation. They do it because Muhammad did it in his lifetime because it was fashion in this period and we do it if we want because we love him and admire him and we want to walk on his footstep in every thing he did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
not realizing the historical
context of the Quran in that it was book
given to sum people living amoungst sum
savage Arabs!!!!!

So you mean God shouldnt have given the book to these people ? or He was mistaken ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884422)
and look at the so called Orthidox
Muslim world itself

om sorry....eye don't believe people
should get their hand
chopped off for stealing

thats not the highest level of Islam

I dont believe too but it's god's will, you cant be more wise than the creator.

"And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (Quran 5:38)

Sham-iLL 05-07-2010 11:26 AM

A lot of allegations here,
I will provide a long response that involved a long thought process once I get home to a computer instead of sitting in the back row of my class trying to type up a response on my iPod touch.

check two 05-07-2010 11:34 AM

Who is? Or who are? Pondering....

Hellspawn 05-07-2010 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884451)
PEACE!!!!!

huh???

eye NEVER said Sunni Muslims don't believe in other prophets

all the shit eye typed and you can't even
address what eye actually wrote?

whut eye DID.... SAY.... COUNTLESS times in my
slang broken english rant is that
SUnni muslims other so called orthidox Muslims
SAY "you MUST follow Muhammad and the QUran
over and above EVERY other source of ISlam"

We believe the previous scriptures are corrupted + islam came to correct and complete the teachings of the previous prophets = Quran is a way to follow.

And... you MUST NOT because :

" There shall be no compulsion in religion" (Quran 2:256)

And

"You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion." (Quran 109:4)

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884451)
Sunni Muslims not only transgress against Allah
by SAYING the above but also they cannot even
obey the laws laid down in the QUran nor
can they accept the QUran in its pure form!!!!!!!

for example...getting Vaccinated as ordered by Europeans

WTF with this vaccination story ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884451)
and for example.....denying the verses in the QUran
which give Allah human attributes

AHmad Ben Hanbal and his kind didn't
deny those verses....he verified that
Allah made man in his image

"you claim your ugly and digusting
faces are in the image of Allah
with your curly hair" to paraphrase
is the type of comment that
came from the ORIGINATORS
of Sunni and sects like it

eye can get the exact quote if you wish

When god speak about face, hands or throne it is to make people understand the beyond understanding. It is not because god is a blackman arm leg leg arm head. This is in contradiction with all the other attributes of god such as The Holy, The Pure, The Perfect, The Almighty, The Sufficient, The All Knowing, The Omniscient, The All Hearing, The All Seeing, The Ressurecter, The Giver of Life, The Eternal, The Absolute, The Self-Sufficient.

Give one blac man who got these attributes (besides Michael Jordan...LOL) ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884451)
who's gonna save the young
black, brown, red, yellow and white
babies of
so called orthidox Muslims from
their parents handing them over
to sum cracker ass doctor
and letting him or her inject
SWINE through a needle?????

who's gonna prevent babies from
being poisoned????

You !!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884451)
WE are......and obviously not the SUnni Imam's or those
like them...

eye am dead AIDS CANCER FIGHTING
Liyoto Machida running down the street
through
a tornado
with sizzors in my hand serious my man!!!!!

seriously motherfuckin seriously serious

eye don't want babies poisoned.....

Neither I.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowcheeze (Post 1884451)
well...eye don't know....it might help for
you to try and prove some of the smartdumb
shit eye just wrote today wrong

but if thats the route you gonna go....

eye always leave an escape route
like sun tzu said

PEACE!!!!!!

Peace²

EAGLE EYE 05-07-2010 02:40 PM

who "are"

knewcheeze 05-07-2010 11:20 PM

fffffffff
 
"So I [Muhammad] read it, and he [Gabriel] departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was though these words were written on my heart. (Tabari: Now none of God's creatures was more hateful to me than an (ecstatic) poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, Woe is me poet or possessed - Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest. So I went forth to do so and then) when I was midway on the mountain, I heard a voice from heaven saying "O Muhammad! thou are the apostle of God and I am Gabriel."


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