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Old 12-21-2012, 08:48 AM   #10503
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Originally Posted by THE W View Post
there are many QBs like RG3 who flame out too so i dont see your point here. busts happen.
name them?

so you're gonna dismiss this guy completely for 2 games out 14? okay..
You tried to blame the defense when they have actually bailed Luck out on multiple occasions. to sit there and try to demean every other part of the team to build up Luck is just laughable.
yeah that was his name, curtis painter. him and kerry kollins were awful and having all the same weapons peyton was successful with for years didnt help them one bit. dallas clark, austin collie, blair white, pierre garcon, reggie wayne. a lot of talent that didnt do jack when painter and kollins were under center. they played in the same crappy division with more or less the same schedule...only 2 games.
It doesn't matter the weapons when you have the worst QB in the NFL as your starter.
lets just assume(with no way to substantiate it) the colts being behind is all luck's fault, he gets them out of those binds. again, he's proving he can overcome mistakes and make plays when the chips are down which is a well saught after trait in a QB.
Great, so you're ok with the captain who shoots a hole in the boat with his gun as long as he helps the rest of the crew bail in the end.

But you're not ok with the captain who avoids shooting the hole in the boat in the first place.

The only impressive comeback that HE actually led was against Detroit.

let's also just ignore the fact that Griffin led 2 game-winning drives WITH HIS ARM and watched his defense blow the first one.
RG3 is on pace to throw is 400 times. a very low number considering guys like the manning brothers, tom brady, and drew brees will have thrown more than 600 times at season's end.
Why do you try to compare Griffin to the elite QBs in todays game but compare Luck to a rookie Manning? Again a rookie Matt Ryan threw the ball as much RG3 has and is now a elite passer. So what's your point?
The difference from Rg3 and alex smith is Rg3 is a serious run threat. as far as passing both arent being asked to make plays with their arm. just manage the game and not make mistakes, but again, Rg3 can hurt you on the ground, thats his advantage.
Griffin has already had a better passing season than anyone of the 8 years Alex Smith has had as a pro with two games to go this season. Comparing an 8th year (now backup) game managing QB backed by a great defense to a rookie sensation is a joke, and you know it. Just stop.

RG3 is not a 'running QB'. He's a QB with a cannon for an arm and very good accuracy who also happens to have elite speed. If the Redskins decided next year to quit running option plays, Griffin wouldn't suddenly become ineffective.

that QB rating includes all of his over 700 yards rushing with 6 TDs(as a QB)
Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Michael Vick, and Vince Young have all ran for that many yards/tds and never had a qb rating as high as a rookie Griffin. next excuse?
and the YPA? its called play action passes setup by a great running game. its much more effective when you are a serious run threat am i sure the defenses are biting leaving Rg3 with wide open receivers down field to throw to.
On intermediate throws (10-20 yards) he's completed 42 passes, more than Brady or Rodgers. RG3 's ball placement is elite.

ballard might get 800 yards by the end of the year. those are terrible numbers. ladanian tomlinson was considered washed up when he was putting up those type of numbers with the chargers. ballard is a journeymen RB.
NIGGA YOU MAKE THE WORST COMPARISONS I'VE EVER SEEN. of course 800 yards is considered washed up taking into consideration LT's HOF career. 800 yards for a starting back is AVERAGE like I've been saying the entire time. do I have to define "average" for you?

Last edited by OlympiQ; 12-21-2012 at 08:52 AM.
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