Originally Posted by Longbongcilvaringz
Yes, we know, and it's disgusting from a moral perspective. But hey, the bible is generally and jesus teaching's were all over the place and pretty sickening in part.
"Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it."
I think everyone in this thread should go back to he first post and have a good think about it.
but how do you know jesus actually said that. isnt it totally possible that the author couldve put words into his mouth.
jesus said thinks like "forgive others and your sins will be forgiven". here he says sin is forgiven because of forgiving, not because of sacrifices.
but later paul tries to connect jesus' death with jewish sacrifice which is sloppy for many reasons.
also the gospels never actually mention the name of the author. it could be anyone called matthew/mark/luke or people pretending to be them.
in fact ive heard commentators state that marks gospel looks as if he used different sources and it wasnt written from his memory.
so how accurate are these other sources.
tbh i think its obvious that lots of people put their own words into jesus' mouth.
its impossible to be 100% certain what jesus' true teachings were but personally i always thought of him as a kind idiot and people just used his influence for their own selfish reasons.