wow. i always hated vog. i think violent by design is a masterpiece, it's incredible. i think lob is also an incredible masterpiece (not lyrically of course) but i always thought vog sucked. yeah the guest appearences are nice (some of them...some were real wack) but the beats are only decent, certainly not his best work (rip the jacker got better beats then vog) and it dind't flow well. other 2 albums are bangas, new one blows, psycho social (yes to whoever said it gets hated on) fucking sucks.