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    Quote Originally Posted by Art
    i don't think any of us can or ever will know or understand it in our lifetime. however, that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying to find the truth.
    I think its safe to say that we'll never fully comprehend the Source from which all creations springs. At best we can only seek to understand the principles upon which the physical world was established and do our best to move in harmony with those principles. Its my view that religion (you can take your pick on which) is there to help one achieve that foundation, how it goes about doing so is more a reflection on the culture it comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    God is your only truth and salvation.

    god only leads you to slavery
    if the truth is to a Tyrant who demands you to follow or die, then id rather live the lie

    lord Lucifer brought us science and reason and freed us from the Chains that god has bond us by
    we may never see Edan again but we can make it our self
    peace is only good because we try to obtain it ourself if some one offers it to you and all you have to do is follow unconditionally it is false and a lie


    ohh.... i'm adding that to my Lucifer page

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    Stoicism.

    Where intelligent thought started and ended.

    The fact of the matter is that the ancients could figure out most of what we know from science and technology using proper deduction. They already knew that the highest power is the very structure of the universe, something which is both physical (matter) and metaphysical (energy.)

    They concluded millenia ago that we don't need evidence to back up our conclusions, only to lead us to them. Evidence can verify something, but a trained mind can figure anything out given that it thinks properly. At worst their theories were building towards better ones. Its like you look at atomic structure and the ancients figured out that it formed various shapes at an infinitesimal scale. They hadn't totally figured out atomic bonds and structure but they were pretty close. It worked, it made sense. Some things were cubes, some things had a ton of sides. The cubes hold together better. That's a strong nuclear bond. The many sided shapes slide around. That's a weak nuclear bond.

    We've somehow abandoned the ancient philosophy for religions while simultaneously improved our evidence gathering.

    Stoicism is like Buddhism, only for realists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy View Post
    Stoicism.

    Where intelligent thought started and ended.

    The fact of the matter is that the ancients could figure out most of what we know from science and technology using proper deduction. They already knew that the highest power is the very structure of the universe, something which is both physical (matter) and metaphysical (energy.)

    They concluded millenia ago that we don't need evidence to back up our conclusions, only to lead us to them. Evidence can verify something, but a trained mind can figure anything out given that it thinks properly. At worst their theories were building towards better ones. Its like you look at atomic structure and the ancients figured out that it formed various shapes at an infinitesimal scale. They hadn't totally figured out atomic bonds and structure but they were pretty close. It worked, it made sense. Some things were cubes, some things had a ton of sides. The cubes hold together better. That's a strong nuclear bond. The many sided shapes slide around. That's a weak nuclear bond.

    We've somehow abandoned the ancient philosophy for religions while simultaneously improved our evidence gathering.

    Stoicism is like Buddhism, only for realists.
    is that the school from the Hellenistic philosophy that teaches one to be cynical and oppresses ones emotional and bestial side in order to objectively find a solution in an ambiguous situation


    god luck with getting out of a complex situation that requires you to be the "Beast"
    like... i don't know.....
    LIFE

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great Dane View Post
    is that the school from the Hellenistic philosophy that teaches one to be cynical and oppresses ones emotional and bestial side in order to objectively find a solution in an ambiguous situation


    god luck with getting out of a complex situation that requires you to be the "Beast"
    like... i don't know.....
    LIFE
    Yep. The school of thought concerned with thinking...

    Lead me, Zeus, and you too, Destiny,
    To wherever your decrees have assigned me.
    I follow readily, but if I choose not,
    Wretched though I am, I must follow still.
    Fate guides the willing, but drags the unwilling.

    Though I also like Epicurean philosophy. They both have their merits.
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    good stuff

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    last year my mother in law hit me with all the tablets from doc york. some of it is really out there. shiiiiit a LOT of it is out there. idk if i'm allowed to share. i need tio call her and ask what is suitable for the public.

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    what you feel about the story of Halal and his wife ?

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    I really don't know anymore. I grew up in a Christian church, stopped believing in all of that when I was a teenager. I became a Muslim a few years ago, and I don't even know if I believe in God anymore. Atleast the Abrahamic view of God anyways.

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    Questioning one's own beliefs might be the first step. Keeping that which could be backed up and throwing away that which cannot, might be the next step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD NOSE View Post
    what you feel about the story of Halal and his wife ?

    Chapter 8
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    Always question what your told,

    Always look at every side of the story

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    I have been questioning the existence of God since I was 12yrs old. I now believe that Man cannot rely on external forces to govern ones life. Human beings develop their values based on a number of factors and those values determine the kind of character a person develops. Rational thought, Logic and Morality are learned principles which are inherent in Man and the better the ability to understand these principles the more ethical the behavior of the person becomes.

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    ...and become gods



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    Food For Thought, i don't even pay you any attention because i know you're a retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plaugexX View Post
    I have been questioning the existence of God since I was 12yrs old. I now believe that Man cannot rely on external forces to govern ones life. Human beings develop their values based on a number of factors and those values determine the kind of character a person develops. Rational thought, Logic and Morality are learned principles which are inherent in Man and the better the ability to understand these principles the more ethical the behavior of the person becomes.
    Solid post

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