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    LOL, you're absolutely insane if you think that.

    especially since officials knew of Sandusky's conduct back in '98 when he was still coaching. And his quiet resignation was an exchange for PSU sweeping the issue under the rug.
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    ADs are just as responsible for insitutional control as coaches, as are presidents.


    They already spoke with the NCAA president, and he said this was one of the worst scandals in its history.


    They're in deep shit.
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    of course its horrible, dude has been setting up charitable institutions to rape kids. all responsible are losing their jobs and even going to prison...as they should.

    nevertheless, it has nothing to do with unfair competition. this situation, as bad it is, is out of the NCAA competition police's jurisdiction.

    penn state hasnt been getting an unfair competitive advantage through this sicko's actions.
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    they govern more than just that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wadedigital36 View Post
    joe pa getting canned is the only "sanction" penn state is gonna face.
    Quote Originally Posted by DickyTouch View Post
    LOL, you're absolutely insane if you think that.

    especially since officials knew of Sandusky's conduct back in '98 when he was still coaching. And his quiet resignation was an exchange for PSU sweeping the issue under the rug.

    its difficult to say. no student athlete did anything wrong. and all parties associated with penn state and football are going to no longer be working at the school.

    what else can they do? as sick as what this guy did, the NCAA has no dealing with it.

    its all criminal laws that were broken.
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    People are too stupid to effectively conspire to do anything, but not too stupid to come up with conspiracy theories.

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    thats not true at all though and the NCAA governing body does more than just penalize boosters and recruiting violations.

    You could say, for instance, that by Penn State covering up this incident, (involving current and former members of the football staff), it gave them a competitive advantage in recruiting.

    because if this would have gotten out, it almost certainly would have affected that, and its going to going forward.


    So there doesnt have to be players involved at all.


    Many schools have self imposed sanctions, but still got ransacked by the NCAA. All for stuff alot less sinister, so my guess is, Penn State will get hit hard, as they should.
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    penn state just lost its first big recruit, some linemen from CO took back his verbal commitment. if anything covering it up makes penn state look worse to possible recruits and would affect them greater than had they policed themselves and turned him in in the first place, thereby any positive they had by remaining normal for those years is outweighed doubly by the negative that will come by going about it in the way that it did.


    how will they punish them? take away scholarships, lose bowl eligibility? the punishments would be more based on moral grounds than any sort of violations. im not pretending to know all the in and outs of the rules of the ncaa but thats just how it looks to me.
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    This cover up has been going on since '99 so thats 12 years of a competitive advantage.


    The football program would and should be punished for that. The AD especially, perjured himself in regards to the situation.

    Those are huge violations.


    If this is left unscathed, the NCAA is going to come under enormous criticism and pressure from the media and the public.

    Especially since they recently claimed they needed to take a harder line to clean the sport up.

    And they have.

    I'd say that members of the athletic department breaking laws, and covering up incidents is both a moral and rules violation.


    I don't think they deserve the death penalty, but they might get it.

    The football department should be punished. I know that the perpetrators are getting off and whatnot, but thats part of the hypocrisy of college football.

    The people who commit the crimes(the players mostly) usually get off scot free.

    The whole system is antiquated. Its needs to be overhauled.
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    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ive-leave.html

    I dont know if they mean McQueary is getting death threats over not stepping in, or because he spoke up?

    Probably both

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    How come he hasn't been fired?



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    Quote Originally Posted by DickyTouch View Post

    You could say, for instance, that by Penn State covering up this incident, (involving current and former members of the football staff), it gave them a competitive advantage in recruiting.

    because if this would have gotten out, it almost certainly would have affected that, and its going to going forward.


    dude...no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DickyTouch View Post
    This cover up has been going on since '99 so thats 12 years of a competitive advantage.


    The football program would and should be punished for that. The AD especially, perjured himself in regards to the situation.

    Those are huge violations.


    If this is left unscathed, the NCAA is going to come under enormous criticism and pressure from the media and the public.

    Especially since they recently claimed they needed to take a harder line to clean the sport up.

    And they have.

    I'd say that members of the athletic department breaking laws, and covering up incidents is both a moral and rules violation.


    I don't think they deserve the death penalty, but they might get it.

    The football department should be punished. I know that the perpetrators are getting off and whatnot, but thats part of the hypocrisy of college football.

    The people who commit the crimes(the players mostly) usually get off scot free.

    The whole system is antiquated. Its needs to be overhauled.
    the perjury was to a grand jury not to an ncaa panel. and he has criminal charges against him for it.

    the ncaa is not in the business of punishing child molesters and conspirators. they punish people who break ncaa rules. dumb shit like hanging out with deon sanders and getting tattoos.


    Quote Originally Posted by check two View Post
    How come he hasn't been fired?

    board of trustees decision.
    The earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and in triumph they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

    People are too stupid to effectively conspire to do anything, but not too stupid to come up with conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.O.B. PT 3 View Post
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ive-leave.html

    I dont know if they mean McQueary is getting death threats over not stepping in, or because he spoke up?

    Probably both

    Probably because he spoke up more then anything, College football fans are worse then any professional fans, they make the Green Bay "Cheeseheads" look like casual viewers, if I were that guy I'd move out of PA as soon as possible, his speaking up, tho I agree with it, forced JOE PATERNO AKA THE GOD OF PENN STATE to retire, its not ridiculous to think somebody might shoot him over it...... They already starting riots

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    Its called Failure to Moniter.....and its a lack of institutional control.


    Letting a child molestor on campus after knowing of charges IS a violation.

    The NCAA panel does take the upholding of morals and ethics into consideration.

    And I'd say members of the athletic department breaking laws and lying to grand juries is against NCAA rules that prohibit illegal activity.



    Trust me, Penn State is going to get hammered.

    Its just you rarely see a case like this. Most teams are covering booster activity or academic fraud, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wadedigital36 View Post


    dude...no.
    100% yes, are you even serious?


    You think that if this situation came out in 2002, that that wouldnt have affected recruiting? JoePa might have been fired, cuz he was in the hot seat at that time as well.


    They kept it under wraps for this exact reason. To preserve the reputation of the university and the football program.
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