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    is this gonna benefit anyone?

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    click play, find out for yourself.

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    do you all believe in supernatural beings?
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    more intellectual irresponsibility by those who dont like christianity.

    fair enough if you think the bible and the concept of God is bullshit but please dont bastardize the scripture to make it say things it doesnt say.
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE W View Post
    more intellectual irresponsibility by those who dont like christianity.

    fair enough if you think the bible and the concept of God is bullshit but please dont bastardize the scripture to make it say things it doesnt say.

    Like Christianity? i dont like any religion that teach's its way is the only way,. that their words are more righteous than other religions., especially when those words have been changed and re written so many times.. even if you check th greek / hebrew translations,, to english.. the meanings have been bastardized

    We are not the ones who bastardized it, the people who did the faux translations, who chose which books could be part of the bible, the ones who keep the rest of the books hidden from the subservient christians, are the ones you should be pointing the finger at

    the bible and the concepts of god in the bible, are man made, wrote by man, who copied / relayed older stories. in to the bible.. teh bible to me is a re working of older stories, to form a new religion (form of control)

    teh word lucifer, basic translation is to be enlightened, lucifer is not the devil,. it is knowledge..

    course Christians hate knowledge, as it directly contradicts the words written by the men made the bible..,... you do know that jesus never called himself a christian? or wanted a religion dictated by cash/rituals/owners.. hence why he was kicked out the tempple.. and a few weeks/days later was murdered..

    its all about power.. what jesus (or the event known as jesus) was teaching was.. the power is within you.. stop giving it away.

    Btw.. what did you think of the videos??
    did you understand the occult meanings of what was being stated?

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    i believe in ghosts.
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    you know Trixx is ODB, right?

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    Decipher, son.


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    ^^get out
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    i've seen what i believe to be ghosts. i haven't seen what jesus or lucifer looks like. people have their own saviours and demons in their lifetime. people will express what they love and fear and hate and joy and so on.

    maybe there is a god and devil. or many gods and devils and i've yet to meet them when i die. i don't know what i'd say to them. "hello" would be a start i guess. do you think the devil has time to keep an eye on everyone in hell, cos quite a few people in history deserve to go to hell, right? do you think the devil punishes them for doing his dirty work for him?
    Quote Originally Posted by Senator C. Palantine View Post
    you know Trixx is ODB, right?

    Listen to Jay-z's last album, it's all there.

    Decipher, son.


    Don't want no puss filled yellowheaded dick man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ View Post
    i've seen what i believe to be ghosts. i haven't seen what jesus or lucifer looks like. people have their own saviours and demons in their lifetime. people will express what they love and fear and hate and joy and so on.

    maybe there is a god and devil. or many gods and devils and i've yet to meet them when i die. i don't know what i'd say to them. "hello" would be a start i guess. do you think the devil has time to keep an eye on everyone in hell, cos quite a few people in history deserve to go to hell, right? do you think the devil punishes them for doing his dirty work for him?
    ....seriously, get out.

    lucifer is not the name for the fallen angel but an attribute. the fallen angel or "lucifer" was a very high ranking angel in heaven until he decided to overthrow God to become greater than He. God stripped him and threw him down to the earth to dwell there until the appointed time for eternal punishment.

    Jesus being called the morning star has nothing to do with the fallen angel. maybe you could say Jesus is "A lucifer" meaning "a morning star" or "one who shines". though the fallen angel was stripped of that title when he was thrown down. he was then given the name satan, which means "the opposer".

    what im discussing has absolutely nothing to do with what people want to believe and everything to do with rebuking someone for a gross and despicable misinterpretation of scriptural text.
    Last edited by THE W; 08-05-2012 at 01:10 PM.
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ol' Dirty Trixˣ View Post
    do you think the devil punishes them for doing his dirty work for him?
    i remember in book of job that the devil acted for god by accusing people and telling god and also tempting people.

    he probably likes punishing people so he wants more 2 b punished.

    anyway theres lots of contradictions in the bible


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    Quote Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang View Post
    i remember in book of job that the devil acted for god by accusing people and telling god and also tempting people
    ????????????

    in the book of job God sees satan roaming the land and God talks to satan about his servent job and how much love job has for God and how obedient job is to God. satan more or less says that the only reason job is loyal to God is because of the way God has blessed job's life.

    so God allows satan to take everything job has away from him including his health. job asks God why he did such a thing to him but still vows not to curse God's name. most of the book of job is about how miserable job's predicament is him asking why this is happening to him, and job pleading with God to end his life so he doesnt have to suffer any longer. in the end God restores job to full health and gives job double the wealth he had before. job proved his loyalty to and love for God even when he had everything taken away from him.

    matthew 27:45-46 is sort of a microcosm of the book of job. God the father turning his face away from his beloved son because of the amount of sin he was bearing in his crucifixion and death only to be resurrected and seated at the right hand of God the father.
    Last edited by THE W; 08-05-2012 at 04:50 PM.
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE W View Post
    ????????????

    in the book of job God sees satan roaming the land and God talks to satan about his servent job and how much love job has for God and how obedient job is to God. satan more or less says that the only reason job is loyal to God is because of the way God has blessed job's life.

    so God allows satan to take everything job has away from him including his health. job asks God why he did such a thing to him but still vows not to curse God's name. most of the book of job is about how miserable job's predicament is him asking why this is happening to him, and job pleading with God to end his life so he doesnt have to suffer any longer. in the end God restores job to full health and gives job double the wealth he had before. job proved his loyalty to and love for God even when he had everything taken away from him.

    matthew 27:45-46 is sort of a microcosm of the book of job. God the father turning his face away from his beloved son because of the amount of sin he was bearing in his crucifixion and death only to be resurrected and seated at the right hand of God the father.
    i remember in 1 part of job satan starts being called 'the gr8 accuser' or something like that .

    it kinda made me think is devil not providing a service 4 god in a way. cuz hes accusing people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang View Post
    i remember in 1 part of job satan starts being called 'the gr8 accuser' or something like that .

    it kinda made me think is devil not providing a service 4 god in a way. cuz hes accusing people.
    the accuser is one of the things satan is called. also "the father of lies".
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    there's been a lot of gross misinterpretation of all sorts of texts throughout history. who's to say mine is more misinterpreted than yours? because it's down in black and white that means it's got to be true?




    i don't believe the idea of heaven and hell ever existed before people discovered that the weather makes things grow and give life. and red is always used to represent hell because blood is red and people associate blood with death and despair.




    once they got the idea of a heaven and a hell they've just added some characters that they want to believe are doing all the work.
    Last edited by LORD NOSE; 08-05-2012 at 01:46 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Senator C. Palantine View Post
    you know Trixx is ODB, right?

    Listen to Jay-z's last album, it's all there.

    Decipher, son.


    Don't want no puss filled yellowheaded dick man

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