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    i think existence is subjective but a faculty or force imo "exists" just as much as any physical thing.


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    the only way anything non physical could exist is if that particular thing decides to enter the physical universe or it involuntarily enters the physical universe

    otherwise...nothing in the non-physical exists...for something to exist means it has to eventuallly not exist...existence only happens in the physical universe

    that which exists is finite and that which doesn't exist is infinite

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowcheeze View Post
    the only way anything non physical could exist is if that particular thing decides to enter the physical universe or it involuntarily enters the physical universe

    otherwise...nothing in the non-physical exists...for something to exist means it has to eventuallly not exist...existence only happens in the physical universe

    that which exists is finite and that which doesn't exist is infinite
    what is this "non-physical". forces are non-physical but they effect physical things.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang View Post
    what is this "non-physical". forces are non-physical but they effect physical things.
    you just began to answer your own question in the second sentence of this quote

    these non physical forces u speak of are the borders of this non-physical that eye speak of

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    but then can you show me a purely physical universe where everything in it is physical


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    Quote Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang View Post
    but then can you show me a purely physical universe where everything in it is physical
    is this a trick question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knowcheeze View Post
    is this a trick question?
    i dont see why there has to be a purely physical or purely non-physical universe. i cant see why physical things are the only things which exist


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    Quote Originally Posted by knowcheeze View Post

    otherwise...nothing in the non-physical exists...for something to exist means it has to eventuallly not exist...existence only happens in the physical universe

    that which exists is finite and that which doesn't exist is infinite

    can you give me an example of something that doesn't exist ?


    what is infinite and does not exist ?




    Quote Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang View Post
    what is this "non-physical". forces are non-physical but they effect physical things.

    how is a force non - physical -



    how can something that is considered non-physical, move something that is physical ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakimkoolgrapwutang View Post
    i dont see why there has to be a purely physical or purely non-physical universe. i cant see why physical things are the only things which exist
    when eye say physical universe eye mean the place where life and death occur

    as far the universe in general is concerned it is emphatically not purely physical or non-physical.....theres in beetween the 2 type area's

    om making a differentiation from the universe and the physical universe for conversational purposes

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    Basically, you Sunny and knowcheeze are materialists. Materialism is only one explanation of existing things. There are others. And Sunny, you are asking a question that you already gave an answer to in a previous post.

    Is oxygen non existent?

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    "i cant see why physical things are the only things which exist "

    physical things don't exist because nothing is separate in the physical universe...everything in the physical is ONE...its only an illusion that we have that it is separate...

    what does is exist is ALL THINGS in their totality all together...the physical universe on a whole is the only thing that exists




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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    Basically, you Sunny and knowcheeze are materialists.






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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    Materialism is only one explanation of existing things.








    can you name me something that exist and at the same time is not material/matter ?






    i see light and sound as being a form of matter


    if you can talk about it, point to it, and feel it, it is matter, and it exist -


















    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    There are others. And Sunny, you are asking a question that you already gave an answer to in a previous post.







    where ?























    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    Is oxygen non existent?

    if you need it to live, it exist and it is material
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS View Post
    how is a force non - physical -



    how can something that is considered non-physical, move something that is physical ?
    something is physical when it is material. when it can be touched. when it is tangible.

    a force is not material or tangible.

    gravity isnt material therefore it isnt physical. you cant touch it.

    i have no idea how forces effect physical things. its a mind fuck. schopenhauer thought it was "will" which did it.


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    can you give me an example of something that doesn't exist ?

    anything which u could isolate from the physical universe a being "a thing" in and of itself does not exist...at least thats how eye cee it

    as far as om concerned the physical universe on a whole in its totality is the only thing which exists because eye don't percieve anything in the physical universe as being separate from anything else in the physical universe

    what is infinite and does not exist ?

    everything which does not exist is infinite

    implying existence automatically implies non-existence will happen sooner or later

    nothing is forever...literally


    how is a force non - physical -

    you would have to ax koolgraprakim...he's the one who said certain forces was nonphysicall....eye used his comment to lead him to the answer to his question....eye didn't use those words



    how can something that is considered non-physical, move something that is physical ?

    eye don't know but it appears that the nonphysical has supreme authority over the physical and is responsible for its movement

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