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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz View Post

    pull that verse up if you don't mind.
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...9&version=NKJV
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    Quote Originally Posted by food for thought View Post

    do I believe that your god planned out your life and evereything that happens to you he decided beforehand so that every little thing you experience in your life was already planned and set in stone? No. That is a rather childish and illogical theory imo.
    not surprised that people here would reject this but can you explain why its illogical?
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    That's still choosing your own path but getting help along the way. Well that's my interpretation.

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    the verse is saying that while man will make plans God is the one who determines his path.

    despite God's secret creative decree of all events and actions in time it doesnt negate man's ability to make choices. one can choose to go to the arcade or to the movies without compulsion from God's secret creative decree.
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE W View Post
    the verse is saying that while man will make plans God is the one who determines his path.

    despite God's secret creative decree of all events and actions in time it doesnt negate man's ability to make choices. one can choose to go to the arcade or to the movies without compulsion from God's secret creative decree.
    So back to what I was saying on the first page, Major events are only considered to be gods secret creative decree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE W View Post

    God's secret creative decree of all events and actions in time ....

    who told you that God has a secret creative decree of all events and actions in time ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz View Post
    So back to what I was saying on the first page, Major events are only considered to be gods secret creative decree?
    all events, major and minor. its secret in the sense that we dont know it. only God.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...9&version=NKJV

    Quote Originally Posted by LORD NOSE View Post
    who told you that God has a secret creative decree of all events and actions in time ?
    God wouldnt be omniscient otherwise.

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...3&version=NKJV
    The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

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    No spook god stuff please.

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    people like to over exaggerate the goodness of others after they die - the stories that are told about them after a while become straight up lies

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    ...and while a person is alive, they sometimes don't hear words that are appreciated, but instead hear words that sadden them.
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    It was written by men. That's my opinion on any book. Call me Thomas. I have morals comoassion and a sense of good spiritual vibes and bad. Some will evolve from this others won't. The whole shit to me smells of the greatest con ever. If you read Sitchins work on the anunnaki and Ickes work and it makes the most plausible sense imo. Aliens been here fuckin with us since day one. Constantly dividing us.. making us live in fear and be obedient while they reap every fucking thing. Ultra elite controllers. Our choices have always been our own unless we let what was written influence us which it has deeply. I can't prove much physically but a race way older then us can manipulate the whole world with ease considering the things we can do ourselves. Its right there in my face... the same system.of.propoganda lies and deviousness. Rape the planet of all gold resources and value enslaving its native population. Like zombie ants... You see how new star trek has a Niburu in beginiing . But reversed situation where we go there and manipulate them. Lol they are always doing that shit right in ya face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE W View Post
    all events, major and minor. its secret in the sense that we dont know it. only God.
    perhaps events on a higher/spiritual level i'd say...if anything..i would be able to blame God for u slapping the crap out me for example..u operate from the lower/carnal mind like most do then its us creating the bs we see...put on God goggles and u see the works done-the 7th day rest
    ..u see the good and extract out of other people




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    Quote Originally Posted by V4D3R View Post
    It was written by men. That's my opinion on any book. Call me Thomas. I have morals comoassion and a sense of good spiritual vibes and bad. Some will evolve from this others won't. The whole shit to me smells of the greatest con ever. If you read Sitchins work on the anunnaki and Ickes work and it makes the most plausible sense imo. Aliens been here fuckin with us since day one. Constantly dividing us.. making us live in fear and be obedient while they reap every fucking thing. Ultra elite controllers. Our choices have always been our own unless we let what was written influence us which it has deeply. I can't prove much physically but a race way older then us can manipulate the whole world with ease considering the things we can do ourselves. Its right there in my face... the same system.of.propoganda lies and deviousness. Rape the planet of all gold resources and value enslaving its native population. Like zombie ants... You see how new star trek has a Niburu in beginiing . But reversed situation where we go there and manipulate them. Lol they are always doing that shit right in ya face.
    Do you not realize the absurdity of your anunnaki theory? Why the hell would a highly evolved, ancient civilization that's capable of things like interstellar space travel, harnessing their host star's energy or manipulating matter - have any remote interest in exploiting Earth for a petty resource like gold?

    Let alone conduct a psy-op campaign against our species. There is little to no return of investment in such a ridiculous scenario.

    Also if you wanna read read why the simulation argument / theory can be chalked up to mythology or wishful thinking.. read this: http://www.examachine.net/blog/why-t...nt-is-invalid/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Belding View Post
    Do you not realize the absurdity of your anunnaki theory? Why the hell would a highly evolved, ancient civilization that's capable of things like interstellar space travel, harnessing their host star's energy or manipulating matter - have any remote interest in exploiting Earth for a petty resource like gold?

    Let alone conduct a psy-op campaign against our species. There is little to no return of investment in such a ridiculous scenario.

    Also if you wanna read read why the simulation argument / theory can be chalked up to mythology or wishful thinking.. read this: http://www.examachine.net/blog/why-t...nt-is-invalid/
    Because of the ancient "gods" all over the world that every known civilization wrote and drew shit about. Because Sitchin explained in his translations how they came here for gold to make a highly technological gold particle machine to protect their planets atmosphere which they had fucked up like we are doing. The sudden appearance of 200 sum genes to our genome. The sudden appearance of civilized cultures at the same period all over the world and their worship of very similar gods. Because of all the alien abductions and ufo sightings. Because the Sumerians Egyptians Akkadians East Indian Chinese Dogon Native American Aztecs Mayans all said so... Just to name a few... its a theory.

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    Come to a conclusion that once again this is mens words and Im back to square one. Clean slate.

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