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    Default If u thnk Redmans Mddy Wters is > than Darkside give your reasons, cuz I Disagree

    If you think Redmans Muddy Waters is greater than Darkside give your reasons, cause I Disagree. I think Redman's Dare iz a Darkside is a 100% CLassic Hip Hop album no questions asked.

    Don't get me wrong - I also feel Muddy Waters is an incredible, album - but not his best and unfortunately not a hip hop classic.

    I am all ears - then you have to understand my reasons - GO!
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    hush young crumple

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    Beats. That hard funk sound on his first 2 albums that Eric Sermon does sounds a bit dated 2 me and da tracks can all sound samey after a while

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    Dret - oh, Did I scare you there?
    Cat got your tongue?

    Will you have the ammo to back up your precious Muddy Waters?

    Hurry up!

    Don't get me wrong! Remember we are discussing an 8.5/10 album - Waters
    vs a 10/10 album Darkside!

    Go!

    I gave you the first chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OH! One more thing - there are several people reading this right now saying
    Darkside tops? hmmm - Crumple is right!

    infinite vagina - very good point - because Reggies first verse and flow on Case Closed is unreal - one of his strongest verses ever in my opinion.

    Durag - Okay, well said - I can see that.

    Anyone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crump Diddy View Post
    Dret - oh, Did I scare you there?
    Cat got your tongue?

    Will you have the ammo to back up your precious Muddy Waters?

    Hurry up!

    Don't get me wrong! Remember we are discussing an 8.5/10 album - Waters
    vs a 10/10 album Darkside!

    Go!

    I gave you the first chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OH! One more thing - there are several people reading this right now saying
    Darkside tops? hmmm - Crumple is right!

    infinite vagina - very good point - because Reggies first verse and flow on Case Closed is unreal - one of his strongest verses ever in my opinion.

    Durag - Okay, well said - I can see that.

    Anyone else?
    firstly, lol you weirdo

    secondly, whut thee album is as good as these 2 albums why isn't that being considered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crump Diddy View Post
    Dret - oh, Did I scare you there?
    Cat got your tongue?

    Will you have the ammo to back up your precious Muddy Waters?

    Hurry up!

    Don't get me wrong! Remember we are discussing an 8.5/10 album - Waters
    vs a 10/10 album Darkside!

    Go!

    I gave you the first chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OH! One more thing - there are several people reading this right now saying
    Darkside tops? hmmm - Crumple is right!
    you strange as fuck dorg

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    Sha - Well Redman said he's the Hero of the weirdos, so I'm cool with that! lol

    You have a good point about his first album.

    I never gave it a fair listen even though I've heard it several times.
    I feel like he was finding his style, like he was almost being too raw
    for whatever whereas in Darkside he broke out with jokes too.

    He did that on his first album too, when he did that wack beatbox in the middle of a track then comes back.

    Mcthuggin - That's what I'm saying! For some reason Darkside has been on heavey repeast for the last two months for me. It's bordeline obsession,
    or is obsession.

    Here are my Reasons Muddy Waters is not a classic - while alot of
    people who got into rap in like 2000 think it is.

    - Muddy is a great album - but more polished and a bit of a commercial transition - Darkside is something out of another planet! Way ahead of it's time as far as beats, lyrics, vocab, flows, energy, fun!

    However I don't consider it a complete classic like illmatic - the reasons? Pick it up - while cool was too Pop like and soft for me, Smoke Buddah would have been an iller and funkier single/video

    The main Reasons are One of the first tracks uses the sample sample as Root's Sections...that On fire Joint was too Pop like with Busta, + more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crump Diddy View Post
    Dret - oh, Did I scare you there?
    Cat got your tongue?

    Will you have the ammo to back up your precious Muddy Waters?

    Hurry up!

    Don't get me wrong! Remember we are discussing an 8.5/10 album - Waters
    vs a 10/10 album Darkside!

    Go!

    I gave you the first chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    OH! One more thing - there are several people reading this right now saying
    Darkside tops? hmmm - Crumple is right!

    infinite vagina - very good point - because Reggies first verse and flow on Case Closed is unreal - one of his strongest verses ever in my opinion.

    Durag - Okay, well said - I can see that.

    Anyone else?
    LOL!! wtf are you on?

    my favourite redman song is Rockafella from Dare iz a darkside




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    Quote Originally Posted by ol dirty abbot View Post
    LOL!! wtf are you on?

    my favourite redman song is Rockafella from Dare iz a darkside

    I'm on adrenalin. Rockafella is dope. My Favorite is Can't Wait.

    Buddah Spots is insane. All the baselines are dope. All of them.

    The album is perfect from start to finish.

    If you don't think so - here is the album in full - everyone take time and listen to it - but listen to it in full on speakers, loud! While your getting ready for work or school.

    Redman's Dare iz a Darkside is a classic album like Nas' Illmatic - you can't compare either.
    I think Nas mentions the redman tape on illmatic anyway - something like that.

    It is hands down Hip Hop Perfection. I bought it when I was like 5 and it scared me, and I didn't understand it. Now that I grew up - I'm catching all this shit - Abuse Ni#$as verbally so call DYFUS - fucking DYFUS! ------Division of Youth and Family Services!!!!!!

    You see THAT! THERE ARE FUCKING GEMS YOU MISSED - YOU AS IN ALL OF YOU - GO BACK AND CHECK OUT THIS MASTERPIECE - I'M NOT FUCKING AROUND!!!!!!!!

    HERE IS THE ALBUM IN FULL!!!!!!!! DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT MUDDY WATERS- MUDDY WATERS IS GREAT! IT'S 8.9 OUT OF 10 - BUT DARKSIDE IS 10 OUT OF 10!!!!!

    DARE IZ A DARKSIDE MAY VERY WELL BE THE GREATEST RAP ALBUM EVER CREATED - REDMAN WENT BUCK ON THIS !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crump Diddy View Post

    Redman's Dare iz a Darkside is a classic album like Nas' Illmatic - you can't compare either.
    I think Nas mentions the redman tape on illmatic anyway - something like that.

    I bought it when I was like 5 and it scared me, and I didn't understand it. Now that I grew up - I'm catching all this shit - Abuse Ni#$as verbally so call DYFUS - fucking DYFUS! ------Division of Youth and Family Services!!!!!!
    first off, there is no mention of redman on illmatic.

    and secondly, the thought of a 5-year-old krumple going out & buying dare is a darkside and then being frightened by the album cover and the "american negroness" of redman's beats & rhymes is a bright ray of comedic sunshine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durag View Post
    Beats. That hard funk sound on his first 2 albums that Eric Sermon does sounds a bit dated 2 me
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    I used to think Muddy Waters was his best, but after going back to Darkside, i gotta say the latter is better


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    Lol at calling Muddy Waters pop.

    Have you given up rapping yet you gollum looking 50 year old?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaDynasty View Post
    Lol at calling Muddy Waters pop.

    Have you given up rapping yet you gollum looking 50 year old?
    Did I scare you? Yes, I said it sounds pop like. Fire sounded like
    it was on the playlist next to Mase and Puff. It has this jiggy element to the beat I feel.



    "3 years move along there's nothing to see here/ if I wasn't nice motherfuck I wouldn't be here!" That track alone eats up at least 5 tracks on Muddy Waters. Also the Soopaman Luva on Darkside is crack - "And I saw that trick bewitch flying on her broomstick BADAOW! Shot her down because I leave no witness..."

    Expect a new Crumple album later this year Sha, buy 5 copies. I'll make more than $45 off it.

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