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    The colonialism I was refering to is the colonization of our physical and mental bodies.
    Please be this specific in future.

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    do you guys believe that resources are limited or that everyone could have the same things(luxury house, luxury car, good food, etc)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wadeDyNaMiTe
    do you guys believe that resources are limited or that everyone could have the same things(luxury house, luxury car, good food, etc)?
    we can have the same thing

    but
    not luxury



    thats something that peeps got to find on their own
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    Quote Originally Posted by LHX
    we can have the same thing

    but
    not luxury



    thats something that peeps got to find on their own
    so you do believe that resources are limited?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wadeDyNaMiTe
    so you do believe that resources are limited?
    is a tricky question

    i would say that resources are unlimited
    BUT
    what we are witnessing is the consumption of resources faster than the planet is able to regenerate resources


    so
    if you stretch the timeline out
    we will run out of resources
    BUT
    as soon as their is nobody to consume the resources any more
    the planet will begin producing resources once again
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    so resources are unlimted but not inexaustable...interesting.

    i myself believe that the resources that are available could alocated a lot better. there could be a place where resources are not just given away but they could be A LOT more easily accessible. i dont think the prices for many things is based on maintaining resources but more about capitolizing on peoples needs.

    im not saying lets take from the rich anf give to the poor(but maybe thats ultimately what would happen) but make resources and goods(especially essential resources and goods) more accessible.
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    ultimately
    its a question of what we do with resources

    it is a law of thermodynamics that nothing is ever destroyed - it only changes form

    so
    when we use resources
    we arent destroying them

    instead - we are converting them into a form that can no longer be readily used by us


    so now
    we have taken all this fuel from the ground
    and converted it to metal in the air

    humans cannot really thrive when there is metal in the air

    we call it 'pollution'
    and
    'toxicity'


    the costs of production go beyond simply using up our resources

    they create scarcity of resources
    which leads to competition and conflict between people
    and
    they also help produce an environment that cannot sustain human life




    resources could definitely be allocated better

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    Quote Originally Posted by LHX
    the costs of production go beyond simply using up our resources

    they create scarcity of resources
    which leads to competition and conflict between people
    and
    they also help produce an environment that cannot sustain human life
    so you say that the MAIN reason the price of gas to fuel our cars and heat our homes has skyrocketted was to protect the environment?
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    no

    if they really wanted to protect the environment

    gas would cost a shit load more
    to the point that nobody could afford it



    back in the 60s or 70s
    buckminster fuller did a study on the price of gas

    he said that is fuel was to accurately reflect the REAL value (environmentally AND production costs) on the planet
    then fuel would cost approximately $300 000 (three hundred thousand) dollars per liter

    and that was 30-40 years ago



    is society doomed?
    you tell me
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    Quote Originally Posted by LHX
    no

    if they really wanted to protect the environment

    gas would cost a shit load more
    to the point that nobody could afford it



    back in the 60s or 70s
    buckminster fuller did a study on the price of gas

    he said that is fuel was to accurately reflect the REAL value (environmentally AND production costs) on the planet
    then fuel would cost approximately $300 000 (three hundred thousand) dollars per liter

    and that was 30-40 years ago



    is society doomed?
    you tell me
    my bad

    i gave some false information
    fuller was working at cost of fuel per gallon not liter

    here is the wikipedia entry --

    Viewing petroleum from the standpoint of its replacement cost out of our current energy "budget" (essentially the incoming solar flux), he declared that it had cost nature "over a million dollars" per U.S. gallon ($300,000/L) to produce. From this point of view its use as a transportation fuel by people commuting to work represents a huge net loss compared to their earnings.
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    to have people pay that much wouldnt be very socially conscious. i dont think the prices now are all that socially conscious either and its not like they're spending money to make gasoline more environmentally sound since it was reported on the news that gas companies are recording record profits.
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    just like a farmer uses the seeds from this years harvest
    as the foundation for next years harvest

    an intelligent petroleum farmer would be using the proceeds from this years harvest to make sure that we will even have a society next year

    but
    it isnt working that way



    back in the day when we had no idea how scarce fuel was
    we had an excuse to keep it coming
    but now
    we know we cant keep it up
    but
    were fucked because now our society depends on it

    like a junky who cant kick a habit



    whats worse?
    making a move that isnt socially conscious?
    or
    not having a society to be conscious about?
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    we better start looking for other energy sources sometime around now then. start working on that water-powered vehicle.

    you'd think with all the technology we have we would have been found some alternative.
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    either that
    or
    get used to walking

    or maybe learn to build boats
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    self-sufficency as the first and last resource. enter interdependentcy for resourses in sufficent to have be.

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