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    I just came across this link to a site which quotes racist lyrics towards white people from hip hop artists.

    http://home.att.net/~phosphor/introtogrammys.html

    Now i dont think these artists are racist, and im not sure that the quotes about the devil are meaning white people. But i was just wondering what other peoples thoughts were on the whole issue of hip hop artists supposedly being racist towards white people.


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    there is definately a fair amount of racial slurring towards white folks in hiphop but i dont think that the artists actually hate white people. black people did go through slavery and projects where many black people live are being neglected by the government so its just those oppressed people venting fustration.

    besides, 70% of the hiphop consumer is white.
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    anybody who is racially sensitive in 2006 is going to have a lot of problems in the not-too-distant future


    for real

    people need to get over that shit
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    Good points

    I keep coming across people on different websites saying "wu tang are racists" but i find these people ignorant, they here something and they instantly jump to the conclusion that their racists. If the wu tang were racists it wouldnt make sense for them to sign someone like remedy who is both jewish and white, and then even to have that song "A muslim and a jew".
    I think the people accusing artists of being racists are probably just feel threatend by the lyrics without thinking properly, like as wade said many of them are just venting their frustration about the past.


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    people need to start taking shit personal and weigh the pros and cons for real

    clearly - racism is a form ignorance
    so
    when you react to racism you allow ignorance to triumph

    also
    you need to weigh the pros and cons of your sources
    even if somebody does have a racist point of view
    that dont over-rule the fact that they could have insights in other areas that would be useful

    avoid where possible
    tolerate when necessary
    fight it only if you have no other choice

    thats art of war 101
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    Quote Originally Posted by LHX
    people need to start taking shit personal and weigh the pros and cons for real

    clearly - racism is a form ignorance
    so
    when you react to racism you allow ignorance to triumph

    also
    you need to weigh the pros and cons of your sources
    even if somebody does have a racist point of view
    that dont over-rule the fact that they could have insights in other areas that would be useful

    avoid where possible
    tolerate when necessary
    fight it only if you have no other choice

    thats art of war 101
    word, i agree with that 100%


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    I don't, fuck white people...



    Na JP lol, Yea I do it too though, when I think about certain shit like I get really mad about high class white people and some middle class white people how they waste so much shit, and just don't give a fuck about anything but material wealth. When I moved to the suburbs from the hood I noticed shit first hand when everyone there was racist to me one way or another... but now I see that it's stupid to hate them back, like who gives a fuck, it's their problem and they're just crippling themselves, plus they're just brainwashed. My best friend is white, and I have alot of other close friends that are white, so I need to get rid of this bad habit of saying "White People this, White People that" It's what we're programmed to do.


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    i couldn't agree with you more man ^^^^^, i have that habit, cause i overhear white people talking about immigrants, blacks, and making jokes thinkin nothings gonna happen and dont think anyone can touch em. I have a shitload of white friends but i still say like TeknicelStylez mentioned "white people this white people that"



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    If you wanna talk about race in Hip Hop for some reason, there are much bigger racial issues than a couple of people making fun of whitey. For example, Dead Prez must feel awkward when they're rapping about crackers to a 70% audience. Also, it is a threat for white people to listen to Hip Hop, because they already took over Rock, Jazz, and most other music genres blacks created. You can already start to see how much Hip Hop is moving into White America. Overall, I think race in Hip Hop is summed up perfectly by "And This is For..." a song by Murs offa his 3:16 The 9th Edition CD. Unfortunately my internet connection resets before I can upload a song, but here are the lyrics:

    Damn time's done changed these thugs do what they like
    Some of them be your friends to try and find a new wife
    And still hit the block and slang rocks at night
    But you could be dead wrong with your pockets right
    Contrary to what the legendary B.I.G. had to say
    You don't have to sell drugs or make the NBA
    It's easy to get a grant and get an MBA
    To achieve one goal there's more than one way
    Young people on the whole we have lost our way
    I don't care what it cost I'm not impressed my nigga
    That throwback jersey is a dress my nigga
    I remember diamonds used to be girl's best friend
    Enslaving Black children with them third world gems
    I don't care about your rims, kids ride Big Wheels
    Up until they learn balance and it's obvious you haven't
    With way more ego than you have true talent



    Any white boy who thinks he knows my struggle
    Cause he listens to Pac and his adrenaline doubles
    Now I ain't got problems with you being yourself
    But when you front and use the N word, it just don't help
    I might not trip, and your friends'll laugh at you
    But I know some real niggaz that'll straight up slap you
    Now you could be down, but let's act growed up
    Cause we ain't the same color when police show up
    My culture's not a trend, being Black is not in
    But for you it's just a phase you're gonna have to transcend
    While even if I tried, I could never blend in
    To society's mainstream, American dream
    Yeah, it's all one love, but remember one thing
    This music is my life, not a cultural fling
    It's an expression of the soul when we dance and sing
    And you are blessed to have a chance to even glance the scen

    Man I do the same music, they stop coming to shows
    It's like they scared of the white boys in the front row
    First I was like "so?" I'mma get my dough
    But the numbers kept falling as my fan base would grow
    And now I'm concerned so I gotta speak up
    First the money was the only thing shutting me up
    But now I don't care, don't support me, get mad
    Why wouldn't you abort me, my own people have
    I feel I should have the scans white rappers have
    It's sad but that's the way it is
    What's the reason that my album doesn't sell like his?
    And don't front like you don't why the hell that is
    It's because he's white, you can relate to his face
    Through the years you've been taught that Black is unsafe
    Plus it's only natural for your own to be embraced
    Conscious or subconscious you can't say that ain't the case
    Only reason it took so long to take place
    Was up until now your only choice was 3rd Bass
    Or others like Ice, wasn't really that tight
    Now you got some white dudes who can truly rock the mic
    You relate to their stories cause you share that past
    Question is, why would you listen to MURS' Black ass?
    I asked myself for a while but now I finally get it
    Good music transcends all physical limits
    It's more than something that you hear, it's something that you feel
    When the author and experience and passion is real
    Used to feel I should be silent, I was scared to do this song
    But I want everyone aware of what is going on
    Yes it is jazz and yes it is the blues
    And yes it is the exact same way they did rock
    But I refuse to watch the same thing happen to hip-hop
    I refuse to watch that bullshit...

    WHAT'S GOING ON?

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    they talk about killing whites not only to a white audience but their records are controlled by white companies as to promotion and all. even rush with def jam is not all black owned. so all this kill whitey is like a joke they just talking and that white man is walking to the bank. the majors can let them knowing they won't take action. the rappers have some justification for being angry but when they stir up others into it that causes more problems than answers. blaming the white man is not going to help you as a person just regulate you to the margins where you start to hate yourself for not getting ahead/anywhere. remove the dirty laundry and look with your eyes that see past the edge of their nose.

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    blaming anybody is not gonna help anybody do anything


    the weather wont discriminate
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    Yea I have also heard a line from Dead Prez also.

    Anyone thats racist, is a fucken dick and a ignorant fuck.

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    yeah racism is wack...

    every life is unique

    but you cant blame people for recognizing patterns...
    Last edited by Blazing Fire; 03-05-2006 at 06:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel_INS
    Yea I have also heard a line from Dead Prez also.

    Anyone thats racist, is a fucken dick and a ignorant fuck.
    Totally true ^^
    Last night me and my friends were talking to a couple of racists over msn and at first they were like "fuck you n***a, you jap, you gay" when none of us were gay,black or japanese they were just saying them as insults.
    Then once one of them left the other softened up and when we kept on asking them why the hate these people they eventually started saying they have nothing againsts them, realising they actually had no reason to hate them.


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    ^^^^true indeed, it's not hard to look at world history and think "fuck white people".At the same time it's def not just a white vs black thing. All the killing in Bosnia was religous, white killing whites, but also christians killing muslims. In germany, turks are treated like blacks here. You have the genocide that happened with the hutu and tuitsi's in africa, albeit due to western ideology. During WWII, japan was killing mad amounts of chinese. My point is that hatred is used as a weapon by power structures to control those they have power over all over the globe.
    What we must realize is that the power is really with the people they seek to control. Organization and financial power is the key. All you have to do is look at the way the prison guard union in california operates. They, themselves, champion very fucked up causesut using the same methods they use:which is to say, pay high dollar lawyers to get real friendly with your state politicians to fight for the causes of real communities. I think we could start to get a real push in a direction that this country has yet to go.
    I listened to Malcolm talk about this the other day. You can not fight against an enemy using a force that he doesn't respect. The system is absolutely corrupt, which to me, says we're going to have to use corrupt means to fight just causes.

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