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  • Yes, If you were there you appreciate it moreand understand it.

    8 47.06%
  • No, Today you can measure the quality better because it can be compared

    3 17.65%
  • Music remains the same, it doesnt matter when you hear it.

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Thread: Appreciation of Classics

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    Just been thinking lately whether appreciation of an album is different depending on whether you were into hip hop when it dropped or not.

    Ive always thought that it makes little difference as the music remains the same but im wondering if i would have a changed appreciation of classics such as OB4Cl, LS, 36 chambers, illmatic if i had been into those artists and seen the reaction to the albums coming out.

    another example is experiencing the lyrical change from the old school era to the early 90's when lyrics became more complex. when listening to artists like rakim, wu tang, nas, kool g rap, big daddy kane and krs-one post 95 there are more mc's with decent lyrics to compare them with (not many though).

    do you believe that being around when the album came out gives a more truthful appreciation of the music or do you think it doesnt matter at all?



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    I think it doesn't matter at least to a degree, because unless you lived in the areas of where these mc's came from, there probably would not have been such big hype surrounding their albums. I was 13 in 93 but living in england and not having cable tv and I don't think the internet was common either mean't that I had to stumble on a lot of hip hop, plus being a kid mean't I had no money so what I would do was when I got money I would buy compilation tapes so that I could hear alot of rappers rather than buying individual albums, at least until I was old enough to buy my own shit.
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    I have to say it doesn't matter too because i lot of classics that i love i wasn't listening to rap back then
    you can juste compare these classics with the rap that comes out now and you'll see the difference
    and for example, when Liquid Sword came out i was 7 years old so i was too young but it's my favorite album of all time

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    nice comments. keep em coming.



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    they way I see it is that I am a fan of hip hop and I support the artist I like by buying their cds. But since I wasn't around new york around the late 80s and 90s when it was popping then I would say I am not part of that movement. I didn't live it.

    But that don't bother me or get worried about some of these elistest pricks that whine on the internet about this real deal shit.

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    I'd like to add that if the album is a real classic, it got to be timeless, so even when you listen to a classic 10 years after it was release, you will still appreciate
    beeing part of the movement most be really something but you can still appreciate a classic if you missed it

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    ^thats another point altogether, cause im not sure whether a classic HAS to be timeless, i dont think run dmc is timeless...



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    i think i can only say that it's a question of opinion
    to me it's not a real classic if it's not timeless
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    36 Chambers is a classic because I still play it with the same enthusiasm from when it came out, or in my case from date of purchase somewhere in 97.



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    that's what i meant by timeless

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    It shouldnt matter when you hear the album,if its classic it should still be appreciated just as much. Sure, some background information of the time when the album was dropped may aid your appreciation but give any cat Illmatic in ten years time and they'll still be craving that shit, it wont have become dated
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    isnt an album being timeless wot makes it a true classic? if an album comes out this year thats truely dope as hell, second to none for the last 5 years, but in 2 years we aint feelin it anymore and dont bump it, it was just dope at its time, is it a classic? 36 chambers is a classic, because 99% of people who own still bump it over 10 years since it came out, never getting sick of it, rather than just casualy rotating it thru the box for a one of nostalgia trip of the good ol days
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    ^nice answer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu-Matic
    Most definetly, but it's not like you can't appreciate the earlier stuff. There's just something about that time period, even beyond the music that makes an album special.
    yeah.. I would have loved to been like maybe 18 or something back in '95.. Im a big fan of that whole Firm thing, so I would have liked to see how it was when rumors started to spread about that supergroup.. and also how the media and people recieved the album which could have been so much better.. But as wu-matic said, it's not like I can't listen to g rap, bdk etc. just because I wasnt born back then..

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