Jasper posted a link in that other thread which had a man who supposedly refuted all the findings that point to a coverup of 9/11 in the loose change video. eD got a kick out of it because I guess it was supposed to show how me and others who hold the same point of view are a bunch of nut cases. But I've taken the time to refute some of the links key point (although not all of them. not because they can't be refuted, just cause research is time-consuming and I'm not getting paid for this shit. I do this because I think people need to know whats up. One Love)
Now please, if you normally read this kind of stuff and immediately tune it out, I implore to just look at the facts that I'm laying out before you and take a look at it objectionally. The whole thing stinks like a sun-rotted corpse
Originally Posted by The Other Side states
On this we can agree. The "pancake theory" doesn't hold weight with something so large as the WTC falling at free-fall rates. For this point of rebutall I looked up demolitions in howstuffworks.com. Notice the similarities in descriptions.
Originally Posted by Howstuffworks.com on Demolitions
Pay special attention to what is being claimed here. All the explosions and blast that "officially" caused the collapse happened above either the 98th or 82nd floor, depending on the tower we're talking about. No explosions happened below these levelsOriginally Posted by The Other Side
Originally Posted by Eye-witness that was there
Here's another article from an eye-witness account
These eyewitness accounts should speak for themselves if you're putting two & two together. There were explosions happening well below the area of the planes impact areas.Originally Posted by Someone who was there
When people start trying to change the numbers on the very definition of something, its usually an attempt to give themselves more credibility, while hoping you don't do your homwork.Originally Posted by The Other Side
See that, he's got the degrees off by 1800?C---easily the difference between weakening the steel and downright melting thru it. There was another source I came across who stated temps even higher. I forgot to save the link, but it was from a university that stated thisOriginally Posted by A link on dictionary.com
Seems like thermite's a little better at demolition than he wants to admitIn this intensely exothermic reaction, iron (III) oxide is reduced to metallic iron by aluminum. The heat released is enough to raise the temperature to nearly 3000 *C! This is more than enough energy to yield molten products. Iron melts at 1535 *C.
This is basically saying they didn't really take a look at the steel very long because it wouldn't have told them anything about the steel before it collapsed. I find this to be a very convienent excuse. Although I didn't spend the time finding the article, I know that the steel columns that fell from the WTC's did so in sections of approx. 30ft. As a criminal investigator I wouldve been very interested in this fact but you can't go back and look at these columns anymore and why?Originally Posted by What the Other Side says
Within 11 days, a Demolition company with a long history of working with the DOD had already had a plan to ship the debris overseas to be melted down in India and China. 11 days!!!! How could anyone be so sure that wouldn't be needed as evidence in a criminal trial somewhere down the road? Not even to mention two other points here. One, the clean-up was overseen by Guiliani who was a former criminal prosecutor. He should know about perserving evidence. And even if he was making a bone-headed oversight. (Two)!!! The Demolition company themselves should've known because............Two New Jersey companies were among the bidders that won the contract for removing more than 60,000 tons of Trade Center scrap. Metal Management Northeast bought 40,000 tons, and Hugo Neu Schnitzer bought 25,000 tons. Neu Schnitzer East is one of the largest scrap recyclers in the nation. President Alan Ratner of Metal Management said the company had bought 70,000 tons of scrap steel by January of 2002. 6 *
Controlled Demolition Inc. (CDI) appeared to be key player in the expedient removal and recycling of the steel. CDI was retained by Tully Construction Co. Inc, one of the site's four cleanup management contractors. On September 22, 2001, CDI submitted a 25-page "preliminary" document to New York City's Department of Design and Construction, which approved the plan. 7 * The commissioner of New York City's Department of Design and Construction and the man in charge of Ground Zero cleanup efforts was Kenneth Holden.
Wonder if their precepts say you should have a plan to destroy all evidence w/in the span of eleven days??Originally Posted by Controlled Demolitions Inc own website states
Now Building 7 should be a smoking gun because it fell even though it wasn't hit by any plans at all. They have talked of fires that had caused it afterwards but that's not the case at all. There have been other skyscrapers around the world that had burned for days and never collapsed. What's even funnier is how they describe what sounds like a controlled-demolition but would never actually say that because they're trying to refute that a controlled demolition every happened. Just see for yourself..........
Originally Posted by The Other Side
But if they really wanted to know what happened to building 7 shouldn't they just ask the guy who gave the order to have it destroyed?
Case isn't closed, but it damn sure ain't what the official story would have you believe that it is. I hope some of yall start setting your alarm clocks, you're gonna have to wake up sometime.