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Thread: Sorry guys, Obama is not a hero. Quite the opposite in fact, he has done nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyWinters
    when have presidents ever ran the country ?
    I think Andrew Jackson was one of the last IMO.

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    People need to realize that things can't be fixed over night. What did you expect Obama to do? Immediately alter the direction this countries been heading instantly?

    Obama was left with a disaster when he was elected.
    Economy in trouble, Terrible Foreign Relations, War in Iraq + Afghanistan, Global Warming Crisis, and now people have more distrust in politics then they ever did before.

    Not to mention all the Critisicm he gets from the Republican Party and even from his own party. The Republicans are essentially rejecting everything he has to offer and not coming up with there own compromises. His ideas have to go through Congress in order for them to become a reality, which is why the change you guys all want is happening slower than you would like

    I think Obama understands that for any change to occur, he has to be a moderate and try to appeal to both sides. Thats the only way that things will pass Congress. Enough of trying to get everything that you want, you have to reach across the table.

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    LOL It took Bush 8 years to put us in the shithole we in now, You think Obama gonna get us out overnight????

    P.S.: I do agree comapines should be allowed to fail (SOME COMPANIES)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz View Post
    LOL It took Bush 8 years to put us in the shithole we in now, You think Obama gonna get us out overnight????

    P.S.: I do agree comapines should be allowed to fail (SOME COMPANIES)
    Why don't you just admit you've never spent more than 10 minutes researching politics in your life and step your ignorant ass out of my thread, you don't know shit how any of this works so stop pretending. You are still a child.
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    hollow fartz is a left-brained prisoner

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    left brain prison...damn.
    that's an oxymoron and a paradox.


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    Quote Originally Posted by beautifulrock View Post
    The US needs to start producing again, and not just nuclear submarines, and cigarettes.
    the problem with your theory brock is that allowing companies to fail, and going back to a primary based economy will be reverse progress, the transition into tiertary based economies is natural, but it does bring higher-earning corruption in banks, federal services etc.
    while other countries like india, brazil and china are still in primary/secondary economies, they are slowly evolving into tiertary economies like britain, us etc.

    The reason that obama is throwing money at companies is to prevent the reverse progress.

    but the whole system is flawed anyway imo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by narc View Post
    the problem with your theory brock is that allowing companies to fail, and going back to a primary based economy will be reverse progress, the transition into tiertary based economies is natural, but it does bring higher-earning corruption in banks, federal services etc.
    while other countries like india, brazil and china are still in primary/secondary economies, they are slowly evolving into tiertary economies like britain, us etc.

    The reason that obama is throwing money at companies is to prevent the reverse progress.

    but the whole system is flawed anyway imo.




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    but it isn't reverse progress. Allowing poison banks to fail allows well run banks to buy up progressive assets and weed out those assets which are nothing more than ponzi schemes. It allows light to be shed on the Bernie Madoffs of the world and is the first step toward a long term and long lasting progress. Throwing good money after bad turns good money into bad. This will spiral out of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beautifulrock View Post
    but it isn't reverse progress. Allowing poison banks to fail allows well run banks to buy up progressive assets and weed out those assets which are nothing more than ponzi schemes. It allows light to be shed on the Bernie Madoffs of the world and is the first step toward a long term and long lasting progress. Throwing good money after bad turns good money into bad. This will spiral out of control.
    politicans = short sighted :P

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    I agree with alot from both sides of this... I believe Obama is a good man at heart and that he is going to try and do the best he can... sadly enough this amounts to jack shit since the president doesnt run shit in this country, it's the super rich most of whom we've never even seen or heard of before... My dude Immortal Technique said it best... please check this shit out.... http://hiphopnews.yuku.com/topic/916
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    Yeah Immortal Technique is indeed the man.
    In my mind Ron Paul was the only worthy candidate. And YES we do need to get rid of (or AT LEAST audit the fed).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaupoon View Post
    Yeah Immortal Technique is indeed the man.
    In my mind Ron Paul was the only worthy candidate. And YES we do need to get rid of (or AT LEAST audit the fed).
    Ron Paul is an NWO puppet too, don't kid yourself, just trace his lineage and his monetary backers. Obama will be a scapegoat and his run as president will last exactly 1 term. Perhaps at that point a third party will emerge to challenge the majors and might actually be victorious, but thinking change will come out of that is ludicrous because the House and Senate will still be a majority of Republicans and Democrats. Then you will really see how powerless a president can be.
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    The US market economy has always been subsidized enormously by government spending. Haven't you ever thought about the unemployment rate if all public employment was nixed? The army? The low-level civil servants? The subsidies to corporate farming, corporate industry and 'private sector' knowledge sector industries by way of universities and research funding?

    Honestly, brock what are you talking about? The stimulus and bailouts were just fast versions of the regular slow game.
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    The stimulus and bailouts were economic terrorism by the banking cartel. You can believe whatever you want.

    What does your first point have to do with anything at all? The bailouts contributed to slashing government budgets and subsidies so what exactly the fuck are you talking about? Do you even know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beautifulrock View Post
    The stimulus and bailouts were economic terrorism by the banking cartel. You can believe whatever you want.

    What does your first point have to do with anything at all? The bailouts contributed to slashing government budgets and subsidies so what exactly the fuck are you talking about? Do you even know?
    the bailouts were a subsidy.
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