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    Ali was the shit though

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    ryda, i dont agree about tyson

    ali was a clever fighter and an excellent parryer and punch absorber

    he took alot of shit from both frazier and foreman who probably hit as hard or harder than mike

    ali brought something to the sport in terms of personality and cocky but well spoken jibes that entertained people

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    maybee but mike is a harder puncher then both those guys.....it would be a nice fighr ali and tyson both in thier prime...it would be speed vs power...mike can hadle hard hits....so i think it would be a non ko fight going all the rounds......

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    but right now .. tyson would kill em lol

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    tyson was good, but ali had da brains...., no disrespect 2 tyson, but u get da point.

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    Ali is overrated. It's easy to throw 1-2 flurries when you're grabbin a dude the whole round with you're hands behind his fuckin neck. They call that shit "holding and hitting" now. And all that shit that Frazier did for him just to pull Ali out of the gutter...Ali turns to the media making Frazier look like a dumbass and calling him a "pure nigger". Nice. Sugar Ray Robinson= The Greatest. Pound 4 pound today= Erik Morales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benzo
    Ali is overrated. It's easy to throw 1-2 flurries when you're grabbin a dude the whole round with you're hands behind his fuckin neck. They call that shit "holding and hitting" now. And all that shit that Frazier did for him just to pull Ali out of the gutter...Ali turns to the media making Frazier look like a dumbass and calling him a "pure nigger". Nice. Sugar Ray Robinson= The Greatest. Pound 4 pound today= Erik Morales.
    Ali played the media and the crowd better than any other athlete, ever. Lets not forget that Mr. Nice guy Frazier was putting shit on his gloves in their fight; what? was he trying to send him back to the gutter. "holding and hitting" was part of the sport back then; its not like Ali invented it he just used it cause it was there. Frazier got played and made himself into Ali's bitch. Ali made the world take notice unlike any boxer and played the mind games better than anyone, this is a mental sport and Ali was an mental assassin. Ali was the greatest, he didnt fight for years, he made his beliefs known, and he lived life by his own set of rules. He was MJ but ran his mouth.

    As for him calling him a "pure nigger", the statement was "Ali Iz not he greatest" not "Ali Iz not the nicest"
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    tyson in his prime, would knocked ali out with in 2 rounds, ali can only dance about him for so long, one of tyson's death punchs gone contect, and snap that lil ass mother fuckers neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technical One
    tyson in his prime, would knocked ali out with in 2 rounds, ali can only dance about him for so long, one of tyson's death punchs gone contect, and snap that lil ass mother fuckers neck.

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    Ali would have had his simple ass mind scared as hell at the first look. I could just see Ali like Ali and Tyson would be just dumb founded. Tysons heart is nothing, Ali would toy with him (Don King would have made some bank!!!!!!) and mike would throw a haymaker (lets not forget that Ali has taken big hits before, remember Formans "death punch"lol) and Ali would make him pay. Tyson=puncher, Ali=boxer. Who you got in thier prime? LMAO
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    i still back tyson regardless of his boxing technique, in tysons prime, when he could chuck punches left right and center and not get winded, fair enough ali can take a hit, can he take a shit load of hits from tyson? tysons jab uppercut combo followed by the death punch

    ali be sleeping wit the birdies

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    Its ALI in his PRIME. It would be mental to hard for Tyson to box Ali. Ali would get in his head fast and, knowing Mike, he would think to bite.
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    All this huge talk on Tyson, but give me a list of GREAT boxers that Tyson defeated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlymelody
    All this huge talk on Tyson, but give me a list of GREAT boxers that Tyson defeated.
    Hector Mercedes, Trent Singleton, Don Halpern, Rick Spain, John Alderson, Larry Sims, Lorenzo Canady, Michael Johnson, Donnie Long, Robert Colay, Sterling Benjamin, Eddie Richardson, Conroy Nelson, Mark Young,Dave Jaco, Mike Jamison, Jesse Ferguson, Steve Zouski, James Tillis, Mitch Green, Reggie Gross, William Hosea, Lorenzo Boyd, Marvis Frazier, Jose Ribalta, Alfonzo Ratliff, Trevor Berbick, James Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs,Larry Holmes, Tony Tubbs, Michael Spinks, Frank Bruno,Carl Williams, Henry Tillman,Alex Stewart, Donovan Ruddock, Peter McNeeley, Buster Mathis, Frank Bruno, Bruce Seldon, Francois Botha, Orlin Norris, and a couple other.

    Ali would punish Tyson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquidswordsman
    Hector Mercedes, Trent Singleton, Don Halpern, Rick Spain, John Alderson, Larry Sims, Lorenzo Canady, Michael Johnson, Donnie Long, Robert Colay, Sterling Benjamin, Eddie Richardson, Conroy Nelson, Mark Young,Dave Jaco, Mike Jamison, Jesse Ferguson, Steve Zouski, James Tillis, Mitch Green, Reggie Gross, William Hosea, Lorenzo Boyd, Marvis Frazier, Jose Ribalta, Alfonzo Ratliff, Trevor Berbick, James Smith, Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs,Larry Holmes, Tony Tubbs, Michael Spinks, Frank Bruno,Carl Williams, Henry Tillman,Alex Stewart, Donovan Ruddock, Peter McNeeley, Buster Mathis, Frank Bruno, Bruce Seldon, Francois Botha, Orlin Norris, and a couple other.

    Ali would punish Tyson
    WORD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquidswordsman
    Ali played the media and the crowd better than any other athlete, ever. Lets not forget that Mr. Nice guy Frazier was putting shit on his gloves in their fight; what? was he trying to send him back to the gutter. "holding and hitting" was part of the sport back then; its not like Ali invented it he just used it cause it was there. Frazier got played and made himself into Ali's bitch. Ali made the world take notice unlike any boxer and played the mind games better than anyone, this is a mental sport and Ali was an mental assassin. Ali was the greatest, he didnt fight for years, he made his beliefs known, and he lived life by his own set of rules. He was MJ but ran his mouth.

    As for him calling him a "pure nigger", the statement was "Ali Iz not he greatest" not "Ali Iz not the nicest"
    Word. I agree that he WAS the greatest "for the sport" and yeah, mentally he was superior in and out of the ring. He played Frazier and the media, for sure. He just isn't the best boxer, puncher, etc. imo. Also, he pulled that "holding and hitting" shit more than others of his time, kinda like MJ or Shaq not getting the whistle everytime they traveled. Peace.

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