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Thread: Down With Intelligence (An excerpt from Michael Onfray's Atheist Manifesto)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    God

    Man

    Satan




    Man could have all of what he wants, with one exception - a certain tree

    Man could obey, or disobey - his choice

    A test - would they follow the instructions of God and resist the temptations of Satan?




    Satan encourages man to disobey God and he does.

    He has chosen satan as his master.




    He is given another chance.

    Live under God's rules and be rewarded.

    Live under satan's rule and be punished.

    Last chance.



    Rejecting intelligence had nothing to do with it.
    This is a very shallow interpretation based on face value of the story. There are metaphors that are contained within the adam and eve story that the author explains.

    Why call it the tree of knowledge? The bible could have called it the tree of anything else you can possibly think of but chose the word knowledge. Why do you think that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    Again, that is NOT the meaning of the story.
    What is the meaning of the story? Not your 'meaning' the author's meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    Again, that is NOT the meaning of the story.

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    A significant portion of the scripture should be read before understanding what it was about. So read and find out.
    In order to understand something you first must know about it. Knowledge is the foundation of Understanding and if the Knowledge is incomplete there won't be an Understanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    It is NOT about "my opinion or view". It is about reading to find out the truth FOR YOURSELF.

    If you read a significant amount of the bible ( the Adam & Eve story and other stories that touch on the same concepts) you should understand (for yourself) what the story is actually about.

    ^^Was what I typed hard to understand?
    How much exactly is a significant amount? And 'what' truth is in the Bible?

    The 'truth' doesn't come from a book.

    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    Opinions are not required - only facts. You want an answer to your question? I've already told you where you could find it.
    Well, the bible isn't a factual book so the 'facts' won't be found there.

    Telling a person to read the bible isn't helping them. Do you not realize how many people read the bible daily and still are stuck on stupid?

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    I respect how you see it FMJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Man View Post
    Well, the bible isn't a factual book so the 'facts' won't be found there.

    Telling a person to read the bible isn't helping them. Do you not realize how many people read the bible daily and still are stuck on stupid?
    co-sign to the fullest.

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