"This engages only the person who said it, if the prophet wanted us to know who are the 72 sects he would have cited them. So it's not up to me or you or the sunni muslim you know to define wich sect is going to survive coz you dont ever know. And even someone who belong to one of the wrong 71 sects can be saved from hell because God is all merciful."

this thread is a reaction to sunni's accusing others
of being the hell fire

"You got it wrong bro. Sunni muslims believe in all the prophets and respect them and love them equally."


eye never said they didn't

Africans didn't originally eat meat and milk

whut happens with Sunni sect is you
have wacky zany bonkers shit like
jet black Somalians who
dislike Black americans

eye been amounsgst so called orthidox
Muslims my whole life

they think Muhammad is the one who
should be followed above everyone else

and Muhammads culture was that of a modern

let me repeat Africans did not originally eat meat
and milk

"As for Muhammad, he was the last and final messenger and he came to correct the corrupted scriptures, it happends he is arabic, this is the wisdom of god, he could have been israelite like Moses and Jesus or from Ur like Abraham."

77:7 Surely that which you are promised will come to pass.

77:8 So when the stars are made to disappear,

77 And when the heaven is rent asunder,

77:10 And when the mountains are carried away as dust,

77:11 And when the messengers are made to reach their appointed time,

77:12 To what day is the doom fixed?

77:13 To the day of Decision.

77:14 And what will make thee comprehend what the day of Decision is?

Messengerssss(plural)ssssss are made to reach their appointed time

this verse is clearly talking about the last days...NOW

we know 2 of these messengers is
Jesus part 2 and the Mahdi

"Do you mean over self in the sense of discovering god by your own mental like abraham or self in the sense of doing what you like and worship the way your brain dictate you ?"

when the circle of justice spins it
punishes those who do whut they like
as opposed to whut causes rewards
to appear when understanding
shows its face

the pineal organ 3rd eye secrets a white substance
the pituatary a yellow substance...milk and honey

""GOD will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary, remember My blessings upon you and your mother. I supported you with the Holy Spirit, to enable you to speak to the people from the crib, as well as an adult. I taught you the scripture, wisdom, the Torah, and the Gospel. Recall that you created from clay the shape of a bird by My leave, then blew into it, and it became a live bird by My leave. You healed the blind and the leprous by My leave, and revived the dead by My leave. Recall that I protected you from the Children of Israel who wanted to hurt you, despite the profound miracles you had shown them. The disbelievers among them said, `This is obviously magic'." (Quran 5:110)"

Muhammad said Gabriels visitations
was less painfull when he came in the
form of a man

well since you believe Allah is unceen eye
could cee how you would think "by my leave"
means Jesus just all of a sudden got these powers
from a unceen God but

remember when Gabriel in a white robe
walked up to Muhammad
and his peoples and started questioning them????

well in that manner Jesus was taught

Jesus was taught by people other than
Allah's angels too

remember when Allah came to Muhammad
in a vision in the form of a young man
with curly hair?

Ahmad Ben Hanbal verified it as authentic

sura 57 says Allah is the hidden and the manifest

personally eye feel that the hidden or
the unceen is so deep and unfathomable
that it cannot really be described in words

but on the other hand


the God in the realm of life and death....

as it relates to Bible and Quran

is a human being

the human being who gives orders
to the 23 angels who are human beings too

Gabriel is a man
Micheal is a man
Malik is a man

its a council

the prophets was raised by human beings
who recognized the designs of the
hidden the unceen

when the living manifest Allah
of scripture or one of his angels
leaves his body permanently
another human being takes his place

but to take it even futher
and bring this shit some practicality...

the manifest and LIVING GOD

as it relates to us personally

is the person looking at you in the mirror

although the manifest living devil
as it relates to us personally

is the person looking at you in the mirror

""The Jews said, "Ezra is the son of GOD," while the Christians said, "Jesus is the son of GOD!" These are blasphemies uttered by their mouths. They thus match the blasphemies of those who have disbelieved in the past. GOD condemns them. They have surely deviated." (Quran 9;30)"

Sura 9???? the war sura where it says
SLAY THE IDolators????

it must have spoken of a specific
type of christian because Muhammads
followers fled to a Christian Ethiopian King
who treated them well

a line in the sand was the distance
said the Negus

a christian king who knows
Davids Psalms which says
Ye are sons of God

well theres the conflict and condradiction
cuz in Davids Psalms and many places
in the OLD testament the term
"sons of God" is used

in fact that was one of the most deleted
things from the OT by scripture tamperererruurs

"sons of God"

because it destroyed the whole Jesus
is Gods only begotten son

this is one of the dangers of disconnecting
from the African origins of Islam to
follow only the Arab prophet

not knowing that ELoheem(from the Torah)
means the Godssssss

would ensure that one would not know
why the Quran uses the term "We"
when Allah is speaking

"Do you think the Most High who created the universe and the earth and evrything inbetween could'nt make a prophet out of someone who can't read ?"

when did eye deny he couldn't?

eye don't put limits on whut Allah can or cannot do

Sunni's however say Allah could never put
himself inside a man....or woman

putting limits on whut Allah can and cannot do

"You seem to have an identity/cultural problem with Muhammad. why muhammad ? why muhammad ? why muhammad ? "

yes my questionn exactly

"Well sorry but it is the highest. "

it came from the HIghest
but the laws to qualify one
as muslim in the Quran are
not the highest ...

the Quran even says we made it EASY

"Identity problem."

yeah thinking that you gotta specifically
follow the one modern day Arab Prophet
would defineatly cause identity problems

especially if you naturally allegeric to
the food the culture eats

and then injecting pork in your babies

"Well, you want to choose what you like from the Quran (that you discovered in America not long time ago) and make it your own sausage and pretend it was originated from Africa ? What you believe in never came from Africa, I know ... I live in Africa "

the originators of SUnni banned literal
interpertations of the QUran when
it came to Allah having hands, eyes,
feet etc

so its seems like sunni's wanna pick and choose

"Well like I said it aint about culture, it's about belief and worship. You can keep your own culture, it aint in contradiction with islam."

uhhh theres plenty of people from all 3
major religions who believe in God
and worship and killed innocent
people......Saddam Hussien and George
Bush prayed and worshiped and believed too

which proves how valuable belief and worship is

impeccablity of energy usage is far superior
to belief and worship because you know
why you not doing certain things while
believers and worshipers just take things
at face value and end up injecting
pork in their babies

resisting a certain culture
will ensure not having
your babies injected with pork

"So you mean God shouldnt have given the book to these people ? or He was mistaken ?"

oh thank goodness he did.......

many of the so called muslim here in the USA
wanna be Arab real bad and even
act snooty and elitist just like arab does

"I dont believe too but it's god's will, you cant be more wise than the creator."

tell that to your SUnni breathren saying
the 5 percent is headed for hell fire

""And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (Quran 5:38)[/QUOTE]"

more evidence the Quran is not
the higest form of Islam