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Old 06-22-2005, 02:50 PM   #1
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Is it just me or did Mr, West straight up jacked a Wu beat... Daaam is hot as hell though i would love to hear the wu over a Kanye West beat
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:55 PM   #2
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kanyes whole style is like a 2005 version of rza, takin all the little voices and loopin em and shit, rza invented that. i dont wanna hear wu over a kanye beat at all, but i would love to hear a g unit and wu collabo. wu unit, or g tang they can call it......playin of course
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:36 PM   #3
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kanyes whole style is like a 2005 version of rza, takin all the little voices and loopin em and shit, rza invented that. i dont wanna hear wu over a kanye beat at all, but i would love to hear a g unit and wu collabo. wu unit, or g tang they can call it......playin of course
allah mathetmatics invented that because he wanted to keep the samples under 4 seconds to be free. so he sped them up. i can't remember where but i read that in an interview.
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Old 06-22-2005, 06:13 PM   #4
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People can hate on Kanye, I hate him, but he's a talented beatmaker no doubt.
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:32 PM   #5
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People can hate on Kanye, I hate him, but he's a talented beatmaker no doubt.
i only like his through the wire beat but only when Copywrite used it on his cruise control mixtape
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:49 PM   #6
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but i would love to hear a g unit and wu collabo. wu unit, or g tang they can call it......playin of course
lol!
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Old 06-22-2005, 09:50 PM   #7
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but i would love to hear a g unit and wu collabo. wu unit, or g tang they can call it......playin of course
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:00 PM   #8
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yeah i been tellin mutha fuckas for months that "dreams" is a ripoff of gfk's "stroke of death" from supreme clientele. the beat structure is tha same and that sound he uses sounds just like the reel to reel sample rza used. shark ass niggaz!!
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Cut that shit out. Kanye didn't rip or bite anyone. And 'Dreams' doesn't sound anything like 'Stroke Of Death' at all, wtf you been smoking hollowhead?
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:33 PM   #10
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Dreams= Stroke of death? bit of a reach there...

kanye is one of the best producers out right now, and i would love to hear someone from the wu over one of his beats.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:59 PM   #11
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it's not just this song, bro. it's a whole lot of them.

see RZA gave credits to Prince Paul for showing niggas they can sample everything. RZA said he took that idea and applied it to his passion for kung fu flicks and created his own shit (source:wu-tang manual).

nowadays, they just take w/out giving credits.

anyway kanye should try making a beat w/out a vocal sample for once

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Old 06-22-2005, 09:12 PM   #12
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anyway kanye should try making a beat w/out a vocal sample for once
why would he want to do that? hes making millions off this.

RZA is a better producer obviously but maybe Kanye West will take it to the next level, a level where RZA cant take it, then someone else can take over and so on...

Some of u need to be more open minded with this shit.
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Old 06-23-2005, 12:27 AM   #13
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it's not just this song, bro. it's a whole lot of them.

see RZA gave credits to Prince Paul for showing niggas they can sample everything. RZA said he took that idea and applied it to his passion for kung fu flicks and created his own shit (source:wu-tang manual).

nowadays, they just take w/out giving credits.

BKyle: Questlove wants to know, how do you feel about being the pioneer of 'Chipmunk Soul'?

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KW: But the thing is Im not at all. What about So RZA never sped his **** up? Its like me and RZA use the same sound except for my **** is just more sped up and my drums are a little bit more clubby. Now that I think about it, he and Pete Rock used to do **** like auto tune they **** to make it go down and make it sound somewhat realistic. One of the dopest samples of all time is that (sings) I gotta love, Im like telling you straight on up. Now that I really think about it, Pete Rock and RZA had the soul but my **** is just really really sped up. This is my realization that it is actually a different sound than RZA's cuz I always give credit to RZA.


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Really we were making all those beats for Ghostface. Me and Just love Ghostface so much, that's Hip-Hop's (Roc-a-fella executive) favorite rapper and one of my favorite rappers, so we were trying to make all these beats for Ghostface but just so happens we're at Roc-a-fella and Jay heard them and rapped on them. We were making all these beats for Ghostface because we get so inspired by his albums. He was the only dude coming out with something worthwhile with Supreme Clientele. I feel like I got my whole style from Ghostface. Listen to what I'm saying, I need that in print, I feel like I got my whole style from Ghostface. My whole mentality about Hip-hop. He really took it to the next level.

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Instead of being proud that the new generation of producers are heavily influenced by the Rza, people are acting like little girls.

Yes Dreams was especilally rza like, its still dope
I don't see the similarity with Stroke of Death though. If you want similarity listen to Kanye's Home then listen to meth's Snuffed Out.

better yet don't, I'm sick of the whining
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:35 AM   #14
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BKyle: Questlove wants to know, how do you feel about being the pioneer of 'Chipmunk Soul'?

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KW: But the thing is Im not at all. What about So RZA never sped his **** up? Its like me and RZA use the same sound except for my **** is just more sped up and my drums are a little bit more clubby. Now that I think about it, he and Pete Rock used to do **** like auto tune they **** to make it go down and make it sound somewhat realistic. One of the dopest samples of all time is that (sings) I gotta love, Im like telling you straight on up. Now that I really think about it, Pete Rock and RZA had the soul but my **** is just really really sped up. This is my realization that it is actually a different sound than RZA's cuz I always give credit to RZA.


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Really we were making all those beats for Ghostface. Me and Just love Ghostface so much, that's Hip-Hop's (Roc-a-fella executive) favorite rapper and one of my favorite rappers, so we were trying to make all these beats for Ghostface but just so happens we're at Roc-a-fella and Jay heard them and rapped on them. We were making all these beats for Ghostface because we get so inspired by his albums. He was the only dude coming out with something worthwhile with Supreme Clientele. I feel like I got my whole style from Ghostface. Listen to what I'm saying, I need that in print, I feel like I got my whole style from Ghostface. My whole mentality about Hip-hop. He really took it to the next level.

Try Talib Kweli's Get By


Instead of being proud that the new generation of producers are heavily influenced by the Rza, people are acting like little girls.

Yes Dreams was especilally rza like, its still dope
I don't see the similarity with Stroke of Death though. If you want similarity listen to Kanye's Home then listen to meth's Snuffed Out.

better yet don't, I'm sick of the whining
I don't like Kanye as a rapper or a person(based on what I know about him), but he does make good beats and he does put his own stamp on it in a way. He's given credit to those that came before him. What more do you want?

I will say one thing though. I wish Rza would view Kanye as comp. Maybe that would make Rza get in the studio and pull out some of that old stuff that he used to do. Don't get me wrong I like a lot of his newer stuff like Fatal and such, but I wouldn't mind hearing something with that vintage Rza sound. He needs to let everyone know that he's still king.
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:20 PM   #15
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BKyle: Questlove wants to know, how do you feel about being the pioneer of 'Chipmunk Soul'?

(laughter)

KW: But the thing is Im not at all. What about So RZA never sped his **** up? Its like me and RZA use the same sound except for my **** is just more sped up and my drums are a little bit more clubby. Now that I think about it, he and Pete Rock used to do **** like auto tune they **** to make it go down and make it sound somewhat realistic. One of the dopest samples of all time is that (sings) I gotta love, Im like telling you straight on up. Now that I really think about it, Pete Rock and RZA had the soul but my **** is just really really sped up. This is my realization that it is actually a different sound than RZA's cuz I always give credit to RZA.


KW:
Really we were making all those beats for Ghostface. Me and Just love Ghostface so much, that's Hip-Hop's (Roc-a-fella executive) favorite rapper and one of my favorite rappers, so we were trying to make all these beats for Ghostface but just so happens we're at Roc-a-fella and Jay heard them and rapped on them. We were making all these beats for Ghostface because we get so inspired by his albums. He was the only dude coming out with something worthwhile with Supreme Clientele. I feel like I got my whole style from Ghostface. Listen to what I'm saying, I need that in print, I feel like I got my whole style from Ghostface. My whole mentality about Hip-hop. He really took it to the next level.

Try Talib Kweli's Get By


Instead of being proud that the new generation of producers are heavily influenced by the Rza, people are acting like little girls.

Yes Dreams was especilally rza like, its still dope
I don't see the similarity with Stroke of Death though. If you want similarity listen to Kanye's Home then listen to meth's Snuffed Out.

better yet don't, I'm sick of the whining
Good ass post. That should put the rest of this Kanye theif without payin homage shit to rest.
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