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Old 12-03-2006, 07:47 PM   #1
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Default Maybe it IS time to throw in the towel.

Vigilante justice is not a reliable long-term option.

Unfortunately, when it comes to something like life, it is not a viable option to kill people.

This is frustrating because we live on a planet where there is a destructive element, and it operates thru people.

So, it stands to reason that if these destructive people were removed, then we would stand a better chance at achieving some sort of enduring life here.

The problem is, it is not us that can do the removing.

These people DO need to be removed, but it cannot be done by other people.

Its part of the nature of society.

People cannot be trusted to have sound judgment. We are instruments that occasionally process information incorrectly and have flawed perceptions.

And when we kill, all it really does is give other people permission to approach us with just as much finality.


Nope.

No assassinations.
No coups.
No conventional revolutions.


And it runs so deep, that even the "I don't care if they kill me" people can't even violate this rule, because that would represent a self-destructive tendency anyway (which is what the problem is in the first place).


No.
It is time to throw in the towel on all these approaches.

Anything you ever read in a history book - toss it. It is not going to accomplish what needs to be accomplished.

The token removal of a government and replacing it with another one simply will not cut it.

We need that new shit.

The stuff that ain't come out yet.


Although I really have little idea what I am talking about at this point (since, as I said, this is all new territory), I suggest the following:

1. a immediate shift of focus from activism to a revolution of patience
2. a quiet defiance to all rules and laws wherever possible
3. spending time creating your own entertainment
4. looking for some catastrophic event to fix things on this planet
5. thinking about how to cope with some apocalyptic situation
6. spend time wishing for 'outside intervention'
7. think about how nice things will be afterward
8. encourage people to stop wasting their efforts in a useless direction
9. creative and tasteful vandalism


But please, please, above all else, please don't bother with the promotion or endorsment of the following:
- rallies
- public protests
- assassinations
- anything that involves yelling
- waiting for societal justice or fairness (lol lol lol lol lol)


Be creative for fuck sakes.

Like I said - the way out is NOTHING WE HAVE EVER SEEN BEFORE.

Because if it was, THERE WOULD BE A LONG LINE OF PEOPLE ON THEIR WAY OUT OF THIS SHIT.


Typing in all caps is also not a way out.

I just tried it and I am still here.

But no, seriously.

Maybe we should stop trying to focus on 'working together', and instead work on not negatively tripping each other up.

Some backwards logic like that.

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Old 12-03-2006, 08:20 PM   #2
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Patience is a virtue some of us can barely afford.

Some of us are dying, have been "put on layaway", or feel a intuitive sense of urgency with certain issues.

Like in a Sunny Winters produced jam I heard -"Time is of the essence..."
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:25 PM   #3
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Patience is a virtue some of us can barely afford.

Some of us are dying, have been "put on layaway", or feel a intuitive sense of urgency with certain issues.

Like in a Sunny Winters produced jam I heard -"Time is of the essence..."
everything i say is said with the utmost sense of urgency

it takes a bit of urgency to explore the notion of mass amounts of people getting killed and deciding that it is the wrong way to go
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:26 PM   #4
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and oh yeah - eternity might not last forever


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Old 12-04-2006, 02:03 AM   #5
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youve lost it lhx, check yourself in somewhere
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:09 AM   #6
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youve lost it lhx, check yourself in somewhere
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judging by the feedback i get from other places where i post material

it makes the people here seem like a bunch of wide-eyed kids that always tuck in their shirts and talk about the latest episode of G.I. Joe at recess
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its the "i don't like you anymore, you should cease to exist syndrome"

too many people have it

but its disappearing
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Old 12-04-2006, 02:10 PM   #8
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judging by the feedback i get from other places where i post material

it makes the people here seem like a bunch of wide-eyed kids that always tuck in their shirts and talk about the latest episode of G.I. Joe at recess

nah seriously koresh, i feel what you're saying but i think sometimes more needs to be done. No protests? I don't mean a boston tea party, but it'll take a long long time to get things done if we're just waiting for people to learn through creative vandalism and encouragement. Maybe, protests just have to be done as never before, start picketing outside schools and bus stops, where the real people are.


i guess you did say it would take awhile and we need to be patient, but there's alot of widows out there patienty waiting for their husbands to come home.

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i guess you did say it would take awhile and we need to be patient, but there's alot of widows out there patienty waiting for their husbands to come home.
Are you talking aboat ressurection Wooz?
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Are you talking aboat ressurection Wooz?

nah, just waiting for something that can't happen. The change of society isn't gonna just happen, someone's gotta start it.
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essentially, what i think is of character of LHX words, is that we have waited so long for "something". Not everyone is looking for "something", either because they falsely believe "something" has arrived or they don't know what it ought to be.

We approach life in ways that need changing perhaps? Perhaps we know how we could approach things, but it is our nature not to.
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I look at this concept in reverse. I've recently come to the realization that my default behavior, for whatever reason is to deal out extreme amounts of violence. Therefor, for me, the issue, when under threat or annoyance or whatever, is dealing in mercy. That means that when I run into a conflict, the only thing I'm thinking is that I SHOULDN'T hurt the guy.
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I look at this concept in reverse. I've recently come to the realization that my default behavior, for whatever reason is to deal out extreme amounts of violence. Therefor, for me, the issue, when under threat or annoyance or whatever, is dealing in mercy. That means that when I run into a conflict, the only thing I'm thinking is that I SHOULDN'T hurt the guy.
isnt that a natural humn thing? reacting with violence? mercy is a harder luxury to grow. it is more difficult to apply and expand. mastering it is a virtue.

who knows?

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