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dns · 06-16-2005, 07:09 PM

Nas always get hit with the hyprocricy rant, yet Kanye gets a pass. I see right through Kanye's fascade. I feel he uses the concious mc as a gimmick. How could the Jiggamen tell Nas 'is it black girls lost/or you owe me ice'. Mr. Businessman should look at his own artist. First the Workout Plan, now Diamonds from Sierra Leonne. Somebody's been studying Nas.

By the way Hype Williams is still an incredible director.

Ironlungz · 06-16-2005, 07:29 PM

kanye is the first to point out that hypocrisy.... Just listen to the college dropout....

tical2000 · 06-16-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironlungz

kanye is the first to point out that hypocrisy.... Just listen to the college dropout....

yep...........NAS will beat you over the head with how anti-pop he is, then he does a song with GENUWINE......

.....that being said NAS is on the right path with his last couple albums

dns · 06-16-2005, 07:41 PM

So Kanye does get the double standards?

T.H.O.M.A.S. Man · 06-16-2005, 07:46 PM

nas>kanye first of all..

i think everyone's noticed this, songs like new york state of mind glorifying crime and then 'i can'. i cant explain it, i still like nas though. a lot of rappers do this, they rap about crime even if they never did it, even biggie and pac. (shocking, i know)

THE W · 06-16-2005, 07:51 PM

is because of these hypocrisies that i believe all hiphop artists need to just make their music and KEEP THEIR FUCKIN MOUTH SHUT!

dns · 06-16-2005, 07:54 PM

I had the notion Kanye was glorifying diamond, now I hear the remix and he's mentioning kids arms getting chop off in Sierra Leonne. If this was Nas, he would of caugh heat. But, Kanye seems to get a sanding ovation for every unoriginal thing he does.

Sorry I've seen the greats: RZA (production), and Nas (lyrics) do a much better job innovating the rap game. Kanye's not doing anything new or better.

tical2000 · 06-16-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dns

I had the notion Kanye was glorifying diamond, now I hear the remix and he's mentioning kids arms getting chop off in Sierra Leonne. If this was Nas, he would of caugh heat. But, Kanye seems to get a sanding ovation for every unoriginal thing he does.

Sorry I've seen the greats: RZA (production), and Nas (lyrics) do a much better job innovating the rap game. Kanye's not doing anything new or better.

at this moment in 2005.....I dont think there is anyone in the rap game making beats better than KANYE WEST

Hayabusa · 06-16-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tical2000

at this moment in 2005.....I dont think there is anyone in the rap game making beats better than KANYE WEST

HeatMakerz make better beats than Kanye.

pi-pol · 06-17-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayabusa

HeatMakerz make better beats than Kanye.

I kinda disagree with that. It's just my humble opinion, but i don't understand why people are loving so much the Heatmakerz' beats. I hate the way they over-use toms, crashes and hi hats to give some energy to their tracks. It's way too much for my ears.

RapLevelated · 06-21-2005, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pi-pol

I kinda disagree with that. It's just my humble opinion, but i don't understand why people are loving so much the Heatmakerz' beats. I hate the way they over-use toms, crashes and hi hats to give some energy to their tracks. It's way too much for my ears.

Yeah but it's perfect for Dip Set's type of rapping. Shit sounds guuuuud.

chachaman · 06-16-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dns

I had the notion Kanye was glorifying diamond, now I hear the remix and he's mentioning kids arms getting chop off in Sierra Leonne. If this was Nas, he would of caugh heat. But, Kanye seems to get a sanding ovation for every unoriginal thing he does.

Sorry I've seen the greats: RZA (production), and Nas (lyrics) do a much better job innovating the rap game. Kanye's not doing anything new or better.

WTF? On the og song and the remix when hes saying put ur diamonds in the sky hes talking about the roc sign not diamonds from the earth. Im not even a fan of his but dont slamm him on glorifying diamonds when hes not.

tical2000 · 06-16-2005, 08:02 PM

as far as changing the rap game........KANYE WEST has, since BLUEPRINT dropped everybody uses those sped up soul samples now......so he changed the game

PN_00 · 06-16-2005, 08:34 PM

i dont think kanye tries to be necessarily a 'conscious' emcee...just not a 'thugs/guns/hoes' type one, in which case 'the new workout plan' is fine since he's not being a thug or anything, just more pop, which kanye never said he wasn't

tical2000 · 06-16-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PN_00

well, you know RZA's been doin that since shadowboxin...

yep RZA is the master........but after BLUEPRINT dropped, and album has not come out that does not use the speed up soul sample

06-16-2005, 07:09 PM	#1
dns Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, New York Age: 29 Posts: 239 Rep Power: 0	Why the pass for Kanye? Nas always get hit with the hyprocricy rant, yet Kanye gets a pass. I see right through Kanye's fascade. I feel he uses the concious mc as a gimmick. How could the Jiggamen tell Nas 'is it black girls lost/or you owe me ice'. Mr. Businessman should look at his own artist. First the Workout Plan, now Diamonds from Sierra Leonne. Somebody's been studying Nas. By the way Hype Williams is still an incredible director.

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06-16-2005, 07:41 PM	#4
dns Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, New York Age: 29 Posts: 239 Rep Power: 0	Re: Why the pass for Kanye? So Kanye does get the double standards?

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T.H.O.M.A.S. Man Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: the 'dence Age: 23 Posts: 285 Rep Power: 10	Re: Why the pass for Kanye? nas>kanye first of all.. i think everyone's noticed this, songs like new york state of mind glorifying crime and then 'i can'. i cant explain it, i still like nas though. a lot of rappers do this, they rap about crime even if they never did it, even biggie and pac. (shocking, i know) __________________ image too large "I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death"

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THE W ISRAELITE Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: in Christ Posts: 15,466 Rep Power: 44	Re: Why the pass for Kanye? is because of these hypocrisies that i believe all hiphop artists need to just make their music and KEEP THEIR FUCKIN MOUTH SHUT! __________________ The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. (Romans 1:18-20)

06-16-2005, 07:54 PM	#7
dns Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn, New York Age: 29 Posts: 239 Rep Power: 0	Re: Why the pass for Kanye? I had the notion Kanye was glorifying diamond, now I hear the remix and he's mentioning kids arms getting chop off in Sierra Leonne. If this was Nas, he would of caugh heat. But, Kanye seems to get a sanding ovation for every unoriginal thing he does. Sorry I've seen the greats: RZA (production), and Nas (lyrics) do a much better job innovating the rap game. Kanye's not doing anything new or better.

06-16-2005, 08:02 PM	#13
tical2000 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,423 Rep Power: 14	Re: Why the pass for Kanye? as far as changing the rap game........KANYE WEST has, since BLUEPRINT dropped everybody uses those sped up soul samples now......so he changed the game

06-16-2005, 08:34 PM	#14
PN_00 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 279 Rep Power: 8	Re: Why the pass for Kanye? i dont think kanye tries to be necessarily a 'conscious' emcee...just not a 'thugs/guns/hoes' type one, in which case 'the new workout plan' is fine since he's not being a thug or anything, just more pop, which kanye never said he wasn't

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