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Old 03-07-2010, 12:31 AM   #1
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what does God mean to you?
how would you explain what God is?


if you are atheist, what do you think does not exist? because you have to have an idea that you can refute or lack evidence of .
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The anthropomorphic form of a concept.

For and example:

Allah is the concept of a conscious Universe as is Brahman.
Zeus is the concept of the power of the Heavens to make storms which affect life.
Horus is the concept of Avenging one's Father.
Nike is the concept of having victory.
Lady Liberty is the concept of freedom.
Chronos is time.
Odin is a god of Knowledge.
Quetzalcoatl or Aeolus is the winds.
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The anthropomorphic form of a concept.

For and example:

Allah is the concept of a conscious Universe as is Brahman.
Zeus is the concept of the power of the Heavens to make storms which affect life.
Horus is the concept of Avenging one's Father.
Nike is the concept of having victory.
Lady Liberty is the concept of freedom.
Chronos is time.
Odin is a god of Knowledge.
Quetzalcoatl or Aeolus is the winds.
There is ONLY ONE GOD my friend!!


La ilahe illallah, i dont know if u heard about that before
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La ilahe illallah, i dont know if u heard about that before
  1. Allah
    • Allah, He who has the Godhood which is the power to create the entities.
  2. Ar-Rahmaan
    • The Compassionate, The Beneficient, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers and the blasphemers in this world and especially for the believers in the hereafter.
  3. Ar-Raheem
    • The Merciful, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers.
  4. Al-Malik
    • The King, The Sovereign Lord, The One with the complete Dominion, the One Whose Dominion is clear from imperfection.
  5. Al-Quddoos
    • The Holy, The One who is pure from any imperfection and clear from children and adversaries.
  6. As-Salaam
    • The Source of Peace, The One who is free from every imperfection.
  7. Al-Mu'min
    • Guardian of Faith, The One who witnessed for Himself that no one is God but Him. And He witnessed for His believers that they are truthful in their belief that no one is God but Him.
  8. Al-Muhaimin
    • The Protector, The One who witnesses the saying and deeds of His creatures.
  9. Al-^Azeez
    • The Mighty, The Strong, The Defeater who is not defeated.
  10. Al-Jabbaar
    • The Compeller, The One that nothing happens in His Dominion except that which He willed.
  11. Al-Mutakabbir
    • The Majestic, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures and from resembling them.
  12. Al-Khaaliq
    • The Creator, The One who brings everything from non-existence to existence.
  13. Al-Bari'
    • The Evolver, The Maker, The Creator who has the Power to turn the entities.
  14. Al-Musawwir
    • The Fashioner, The One who forms His creatures in different pictures.
  15. Al-Ghaffaar
    • The Great Forgiver, The Forgiver, The One who forgives the sins of His slaves time and time again.
  16. Al-Qahhaar
    • The Subduer, The Dominant, The One who has the perfect Power and is not unable over anything.
  17. Al-Wahhaab
    • The Bestower, The One who is Generous in giving plenty without any return. He is everything that benefits whether Halal or Haram.
  18. Al-Razzaaq
    • The Sustainer, The Provider.
  19. Al-Fattaah
    • The Opener, The Reliever, The Judge, The One who opens for His slaves the closed worldy and religious matters.
  20. Al-^Aleem
    • The All-knowing, The Knowledgeable; The One nothing is absent from His knowledge.
  21. Al-Qaabid
    • The Constricter, The Retainer, The Withholder, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy.
  22. Al-Baasit
    • The Expander, The Englarger, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy.
  23. Al-Khaafid
    • The Abaser, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment.
  24. Ar-Raafi^
    • The Exalter, The Elevator, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment.
  25. Al-Mu^iz
    • The Honorer, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem.
  26. Al-Muthil
    • The Dishonorer, The Humiliator, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem.
  27. As-Samee^
    • The All-Hearing, The Hearer, The One who Hears all things that are heard by His Eternal Hearing without an ear, instrument or organ.
  28. Al-Baseer
    • The All-Seeing, The One who Sees all things that are seen by His Eternal Seeing without a pupil or any other instrument.
  29. Al-Hakam
    • The Judge, He is the Ruler and His judgment is His Word.
  30. Al-^Adl
    • The Just, The One who is entitled to do what He does.
  31. Al-Lateef
    • The Subtle One, The Gracious, The One who is kind to His slaves and endows upon them.
  32. Al-Khabeer
    • The Aware, The One who knows the truth of things.
  33. Al-Haleem
    • The Forebearing, The Clement, The One who delays the punishment for those who deserve it and then He might forgive them.
  34. Al-^Azeem
    • The Great One, The Mighty, The One deserving the attributes of Exaltment, Glory, Extolement,and Purity from all imperfection.
  35. Al-Ghafoor
    • The All-Forgiving, The Forgiving, The One who forgives a lot.
  36. Ash-Shakoor
    • The Grateful, The Appreciative, The One who gives a lot of reward for a little obedience.
  37. Al-^Aliyy
    • The Most High, The Sublime, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures.
  38. Al-Kabeer
    • The Most Great, The Great, The One who is greater than everything in status.
  39. Al-Hafeez
    • The Preserver, The Protector, The One who protects whatever and whoever He willed to protect.
  40. Al-Muqeet
    • The Maintainer, The Guardian, The Feeder, The Sustainer, The One who has the Power.
  41. Al-Haseeb
    • The Reckoner, The One who gives the satisfaction.
  42. Aj-Jaleel
    • The Sublime One, The Beneficent, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status.
  43. Al-Kareem
    • The Generous One, The Bountiful, The Gracious, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status.
  44. Ar-Raqeeb
    • The Watcher, The Watchful, The One that nothing is absent from Him. Hence it's meaning is related to the attribute of Knowledge.
  45. Al-Mujeeb
    • The Responsive, The Hearkener, The One who answers the one in need if he asks Him and rescues the yearner if he calls upon Him.
  46. Al-Wasi^
    • The Vast, The All-Embracing, The Knowledgeable.
  47. Al-Hakeem
    • The Wise, The Judge of Judges, The One who is correct in His doings.
  48. Al-Wadood
    • The Loving, The One who loves His believing slaves and His believing slaves love Him. His love to His slaves is His Will to be merciful to them and praise them:Hence it's meaning is related to the attributes of the Will and Kalam (His attribute with which He orders and forbids and spoke to Muhammad and Musa -peace be upon them- . It is not a sound nor a language nor a letter.).
  49. Al-Majeed
    • The Most Glorious One, The Glorious, The One who is with perfect Power, High Status, Compassion, Generosity and Kindness.
  50. Al-Ba^ith
    • The Reserrector, The Raiser (from death), The One who resurrects His slaves after death for reward and/or punishment.
  51. Ash-Shaheed
    • The Witness, The One who nothing is absent from Him.
  52. Al-Haqq
    • The Truth, The True, The One who truly exists.
  53. Al-Wakeel
    • The Trustee, The One who gives the satisfaction and is relied upon.
  54. Al-Qawiyy
    • The Most Strong, The Strong, The One with the complete Power.
  55. Al-Mateen
    • The Firm One, The One with extreme Power which is un-interrupted and He does not get tired.
  56. Al-Waliyy
    • The Protecting Friend, The Supporter.
  57. Al-Hameed
    • The Praiseworthy, The praised One who deserves to be praised.
  58. Al-Muhsee
    • The Counter, The Reckoner, The One who the count of things are known to him.
  59. Al-Mubdi'
    • The Originator, The One who started the human being. That is, He created him.
  60. Al-Mu^eed
    • The Reproducer, The One who brings back the creatures after death.
  61. Al-Muhyi
    • The Restorer, The Giver of Life, The One who took out a living human from semen that does not have a soul. He gives life by giving the souls back to the worn out bodies on the resurrection day and He makes the hearts alive by the light of knowledge.
  62. Al-Mumeet
    • The Creator of Death, The Destroyer, The One who renders the living dead.
  63. Al-Hayy
    • The Alive, The One attributed with a life that is unlike our life and is not that of a combination of soul, flesh or blood.
  64. Al-Qayyoom
    • The Self-Subsisting, The One who remains and does not end.
  65. Al-Waajid
    • The Perceiver, The Finder, The Rich who is never poor. Al-Wajd is Richness.
  66. Al-Waahid
    • The Unique, The One, The One without a partner.
  67. Al-Ahad
    • The One.
  68. As-Samad
    • The Eternal, The Independent, The Master who is relied upon in matters and reverted to in ones needs.
  69. Al-Qaadir
    • The Able, The Capable, The One attributed with Power.
  70. Al-Muqtadir
    • The Powerful, The Dominant, The One with the perfect Power that nothing is withheld from Him.
  71. Al-Muqaddim
    • The Expediter, The Promoter, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills.
  72. Al-Mu'akh-khir
    • The Delayer, the Retarder, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills.
  73. Al-'Awwal
    • The First, The One whose Existence is without a beginning.
  74. Al-'Akhir
    • The Last, The One whose Existence is without an end.
  75. Az-Zaahir
    • The Manifest, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies.
  76. Al-Baatin
    • The Hidden, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies.
  77. Al-Walee
    • The Governor, The One who owns things and manages them.
  78. Al-Muta^ali
    • The Most Exalted, The High Exalted, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creation.
  79. Al-Barr
    • The Source of All Goodness, The Righteous, The One who is kind to His creatures, who covered them with His sustenance and specified whoever He willed among them by His support, protection, and special mercy.
  80. At-Tawwaab
    • The Acceptor of Repentance, The Relenting, The One who grants repentance to whoever He willed among His creatures and accepts his repentance.
  81. Al-Muntaqim
    • The Avenger, The One who victoriously prevails over His enemies and punishes them for their sins. It may mean the One who destroys them.
  82. Al-^Afuww
    • The Pardoner, The Forgiver, The One with wide forgiveness.
  83. Ar-Ra'uf
    • The Compassionate, The One with extreme Mercy. The Mercy of Allah is His will to endow upon whoever He willed among His creatures.
  84. Malik Al-Mulk
    • The Eternal Owner of Sovereignty, The One who controls the Dominion and gives dominion to whoever He willed.
  85. Thul-Jalali wal-Ikram
    • The Lord of Majesty and Bounty, The One who deserves to be Exalted and not denied.
  86. Al-Muqsit
    • The Equitable, The One who is Just in His judgment.
  87. Aj-Jaami^
    • The Gatherer, The One who gathers the creatures on a day that there is no doubt about, that is the Day of Judgment.
  88. Al-Ghaniyy
    • The Self-Sufficient, The One who does not need the creation.
  89. Al-Mughni
    • The Enricher, The One who satisfies the necessities of the creatures.
  90. Al-Maani^
    • The Preventer, The Withholder.
  91. Ad-Daarr
    • The Distresser, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed.
  92. An-Nafi^
    • The Propitious, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed.
  93. An-Noor
    • The Light, The One who guides.
  94. Al-Haadi
    • The Guide, The One whom with His Guidance His belivers were guided, and with His Guidance the living beings have been guided to what is beneficial for them and protected from what is harmful to them.
  95. Al-Badi^
    • The Incomparable, The One who created the creation and formed it without any preceding example.
  96. Al-Baaqi
    • The Everlasting, The One that the state of non-existence is impossible for Him.
  97. Al-Waarith
    • The Supreme Inheritor, The Heir, The One whose Existence remains.
  98. Ar-Rasheed
    • The Guide to the Right Path, The One who guides.
  99. As-Saboor
    • The Patient, The One who does not quickly punish the sinners.




Which one is the ONE?

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boarz, you got a few of those wrong. instead of interpreting other people's gods, define YOUR God.
FYI, horus represents the omniscient characteristic of God, among a host of other things.

rob is just too hip. i bet you have a chakra app on your ipad.
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my understanding is "god" is everything we know dont know infinitely in micro and macro - seen unseen.

"God" at one point was a little unseen speck of nothingness - but wanted to know itself more then itself - not as itself - split itself - big bang therory kicks in.

Fear was known in the unknown chaos - then love and attraction began - the universe "god" has expanded and will renuite to begin the cycle all over for infinity and he does this on all levels up or down for infinity.

My question is does "god" have a "god"?
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my understanding is "god" is everything we know dont know infinitely in micro and macro - seen unseen.

"God" at one point was a little unseen speck of nothingness - but wanted to know itself more then itself - not at itself - split itself - big bang therory kicks in.

Fear was known in the unknown chaos - then love and attraction began - the universe "god" has expanded and will renuite to begin the cycle all over for infinity and he does this on all levels up or down for infinity.

My question is does "god" have a "god"?
nice.
my mind just folded in on itself with that question.
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my understanding is "god" is everything we know dont know infinitely in micro and macro - seen unseen.

"God" at one point was a little unseen speck of nothingness - but wanted to know itself more then itself - not as itself - split itself - big bang therory kicks in.

Fear was known in the unknown chaos - then love and attraction began - the universe "god" has expanded and will renuite to begin the cycle all over for infinity and he does this on all levels up or down for infinity.

My question is does "god" have a "god"?
God has no beginning and no ending, He's out of these two concepts, He's absolute that's why He has no god nor siblings (no parents and no children (Jesus??? lol))
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I just realized I said "he" =\ society has an ingrained visual imprint of "god" as a man/being.

How could a man\being of created the universe and why would it choose to make the decisions it made in allowing failed civilizations time and time again?

Each soul (program) has free will until reunited the kingdom (god) and all are one with the main processor working as a whole and "the glory returns" ( knowledge knowledge )

And we learn it all in multiple lifetimes to become perfect beings balanced in knowing the difference in fear and love.

The creator having a "maker" is something we got to find out when the time is right is each our own time I'm thinking. A lot of questions we wont get answers to until we pass on.
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I just realized I said "he" =\ society has an ingrained visual imprint of "god" as a man/being.

How could a man\being of created the universe and why would it choose to make the decisions it made in allowing failed civilizations time and time again?

Each soul (program) has free will until reunited the kingdom (god) and all are one with the main processor working as a whole and "the glory returns" ( knowledge knowledge )

And we learn it all in multiple lifetimes to become perfect beings balanced in knowing the difference in fear and love.

The creator having a "maker" is something we got to find out when the time is right is each our own time I'm thinking. A lot of questions we wont get answers to until we pass on.
this idea is stuck on my mind at the moment. like what if reality was a fractal? and no matter how far in or out you zoomed you were left with a macrocosm and a microcosm. on a grander level, God is a microcosm of the multiverse of multiple creators, in which that multiverse is governed by multiuniversal laws which they call "god"....to infinity.


but then going back to the "God's Introspection" concept... the ONE GOD may have created our God and other universe's gods out of himself, in order to experience multiplicity on a higher level.

i'm going to meditate on this this evening and come back.



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I'm an atheist but instead of disregarding the concept of god I just looked at the universe for something that fits the definition of god.

As A Result I don't see god as a conscience but rather a name for all the powers that make the universe work.
God is often seen as the overseer & Controller of the universe, this transelates into gravity for example, it makes sure we stay on earth & the earth stays in orbit around the sun so that we hav elife.
Another example is Evolution, it oversees us and often gives what we need to survive.
i feel that.
ironically the 3 major religions often get this wrong. the man in the sky concept has created more atheists than anything else.
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^I'm pretty sure that's how it is.

Everything is in constant flux. There are infinite universes which are infinitely similar or infinitely different. Each one has a starting point and ending point. We're somewhere in the middle, and its so vast we really can't understand it as more then numbers and pictures.

This universe started as a super atom which was held together with a unified force of gravity, electromagnetism, and the two nuclear bonds. Unified they were enough to hold together such a massively dense particle but gravity wigged out and separated which tore the universe into being. That's why gravity is an inherent part of the material of the universe.

Anyhow, now our universe is expanding at FTL and won't stop until it overwhelms itself and dissipates into nothing. But its so massive this will be billions of years from now. So if there was a universal force in our universe that is godlike it would have it's own greater beings it views as Gods or cannot understand ad infinity.

Just as our understanding of our universe is limited by our maximum lifespan of a century give or take, our god is limited to understanding what is an infinite universe by his own lifespan of the universe which is very long, but limited.
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:04 PM   #14
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this idea is stuck on my mind at the moment. like what if reality was a fractal? and no matter how far in or out you zoomed you were left with a macrocosm and a microcosm. on a grander level, God is a microcosm of the multiverse of multiple creators, in which that multiverse is governed by multiuniversal laws which they call "god"....to infinity.


but then going back to the "God's Introspection" concept... the ONE GOD may have created our God and other universe's gods out of himself, in order to experience multiplicity on a higher level.

i'm going to meditate on this this evening and come back.
Yep yep. And I'm thinking on this level to. One day we could possibly discover an evolved micro lifeform on the surface of something atomic/molecular size range. And vice versa - we may be a part of something bigger - and all this is happening - happened already and will happen again.
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Old 03-07-2010, 09:46 PM   #15
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I'm an atheist but instead of disregarding the concept of god I just looked at the universe for something that fits the definition of god.

As A Result I don't see god as a conscience but rather a name for all the powers that make the universe work.
God is often seen as the overseer & Controller of the universe, this transelates into gravity for example, it makes sure we stay on earth & the earth stays in orbit around the sun so that we hav elife.
Another example is Evolution, it oversees us and often gives what we need to survive.

This is interesting.
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