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Old 05-04-2009, 03:01 PM   #31
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There is much more to be understood about the man, Jesus, than most who call his name realize.

I would suggest taking up the study of "types and anti-types".

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why the only name of God is Allah ? why cant it be Jehovah or Yeshua ?
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:23 PM   #32
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why the only name of God is Allah ? why cant it be Jehovah or Yeshua ?
This is a question for another thread...

My purpose for the post was to give an idea of how I, as a Muslim, view Jesus...and why.

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Old 05-04-2009, 05:17 PM   #33
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I didn't know him personally so I'm not going to judge him.
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:39 PM   #34
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No in I think dat he came to save us but sum people doesnt trust him ! Yes we need saving but saving its faith whithout faith how can we trust that he can save us ?
what about all those people who have faith but are suffering

and how can they have faith in someone they really don't believe

most jesus fanatics really don't believe in jesus - and they don't know that they really don't believe in jesus or god - they think they do - but they really don't - all programmed behavior
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:52 PM   #35
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Old 05-05-2009, 12:02 AM   #36
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what is belief without action?


I've had christians get made at me for working on sunday while they're out shopping in my store why condemn me if your demands for service on sunday has extended beyond the pulpit?


So imo Jesus's message is a great one even if its recycled from some other source. That the message is understood to the point of being reflected in your daily actions is what's most important imo there's a lot (not all, I've run into some great ones) of so-called christians that don't follow the teachings of jesus but rather the rituals of the church.
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Old 05-05-2009, 01:22 AM   #37
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ITS ALL PROPHESY

recorded in the past for the future to get this idea and bring to life this idea

the idea has been brought to life


how does a thief in the night come ?
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:56 PM   #38
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I believe in things that are actually and physically real are lol...real. WIth that said, when I watched zeigeist and it talked about the sun and the correlation to the idea of Jesus and the fact that all of the stories in the bible about jesus are etched in stone in the pyramids, which were made thousands of years prior to jesus, I can't believe in Jesus the way the BIble portrays him. I think some one wicked yet wise used the "story" of jesus to basically control the people. Same could be said about almost all religions though.
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:27 PM   #39
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predictions

etched in stone - prophecies

the future

the idea of a supreme being being born among them to lead them out of a state of mental darkness

the stars and position of the sun at the time of birth - predictions

after the prophecy came to past, the enemies of this messiah try to null and void the idea in the people
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Old 05-05-2009, 11:18 PM   #40
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predictions

etched in stone - prophecies

the future

the idea of a supreme being being born among them to lead them out of a state of mental darkness

the stars and position of the sun at the time of birth - predictions

after the prophecy came to past, the enemies of this messiah try to null and void the idea in the people

Good points.

Just because Jesus was etched in stone pyramids does not mean he came to the people in that time period. It could have been a prediction just like other scriptures which mention future prophets to come.

If one did not read those etchings and interpret them for themselves, how could they know the true meaning? What if these zeitgeist people and others are 'wicked men' twisting the meaning of the etchings to mean that a prophet bearing the likeness of Jesus already came?
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I believe in things that are actually and physically real are lol...real. WIth that said, when I watched zeigeist and it talked about the sun and the correlation to the idea of Jesus and the fact that all of the stories in the bible about jesus are etched in stone in the pyramids, which were made thousands of years prior to jesus, I can't believe in Jesus the way the BIble portrays him. I think some one wicked yet wise used the "story" of jesus to basically control the people. Same could be said about almost all religions though.

Explain how religion is made to control people please.
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This is a question for another thread...

My purpose for the post was to give an idea of how I, as a Muslim, view Jesus...and why.

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Ok ! When will u respond me ?
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what about all those people who have faith but are suffering

and how can they have faith in someone they really don't believe

most jesus fanatics really don't believe in jesus - and they don't know that they really don't believe in jesus or god - they think they do - but they really don't - all programmed behavior
U mean dat im a fanatic ? anyway u right but in fact i havent the answer cause i dont know everything bout Jesus and I dont know feelinds of people who are suffering ! So u right man
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:32 PM   #44
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nah - i'm not calling you a fanatic

i'm saying that too many people who claim to believe in a god the way they say they do, really don't believe in god - they havn't searched or studied or even thought about the belief they have - its just everyday to say that you do believe in god - most never take it beyond that - most really don't believe in god
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i'd recommend this book to anyone interested in the historical jesus:

"james the brother of jesus" by robert eisenman
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