Poker Discussion

[cap]

Yo B-rock, i found these poker videos with tips on youtube. would you advise me to use these in a cash game? keep in mind, the people i normally play with arent necessarily the best players and have no problem buying in like 5 times so bluffing them is not always very effective.

[Jeru]

Smallball is effective for me but only when I know how my oponents play.

[Jeru]

Originally Posted by beautifulrock

^^^co fucking sign, the way I'm losing dominating races isn't even probable much less possible



Anybody watch High Stakes Poker last night? Gabe Kaplan said one of the funniest off color remarks I ever heard..."Tiger doesn't find every hole..."

HSP really fell off starting with season 5 and now without AJ it sucks harder...there's nobody to bounce Gabe's puns or comments off of. And 30 seconds with Kara Scott and Did You Know segments I can do without...

[beautifulrock]

If you play with people where money is no object, it's advisable to play behind a street. Slow play until it's too late for them to get out of a hand. Trying to consistently bump heads with bullies who just don't care usually brings disastrous results. They will get more chances to bust you than vice versa, so play tight and allow the action to come to you rather than try to dictate it. The drawback to this style, is that it allows your opponents to catch, so be on your guard for psychological patterns which give away if they have indeed caught or not. After you catch them a few times, it will undoubtedly slow them down, and give you the opportunity to start drawing out cheaply. In the beginning, however, I wouldn't draw too much, just go for the throat with a big one.

[beautifulrock]

Originally Posted by Jeru

HSP really fell off starting with season 5 and now without AJ it sucks harder...there's nobody to bounce Gabe's puns or comments off of. And 30 seconds with Kara Scott and Did You Know segments I can do without...

Yea, but the poker's been great. That's really all I care about. AJ Benza is a douche anyway.

[beautifulrock]

I won the Weekly round 2 on Pokerstars.

5731 players

$304.20

[cap]

Originally Posted by beautifulrock

I won the Weekly round 2 on Pokerstars.

5731 players

$304.20

its been a while since i hit up this thread.

ive been winning a lot lately!! just yesterday i won 200€!!

[beautifulrock]

Originally Posted by cap

how do you play with people who dont care about pre flop raises?

my friends who i regularly play with tend to call every raise pre-flop. i find this really hard to play with even though i win a lot of the times. i find this hard cus it keeps almost everybody in the pot so people can have anything in their hands and beat you with bullshit cards.

what advice could you give me when playing against these guys?

If they are trying to get in with mediocre holdings to a raise, I suggest check raising often preflop after limping with a big hand. ie. be the one to put in a second raise, preferably one that puts them to a decision (pot size or bigger)...lately I've just been letting everybody dictate the action, they raise preflop, I call, they continuation bet, I raise. It doesn't matter what I have, 67% of the time they miss the flop. My second option is to call the continuation bet, see what the turn action is, and act accordingly. I find most people don't fire another bullet if they miss. Just make sure they aren't initiating the slow down play against you. (This is a move better players make with a monster...bet flop, check turn, huge raise on river)

[cap]

Originally Posted by beautifulrock

If they are trying to get in with mediocre holdings to a raise, I suggest check raising often preflop after limping with a big hand. ie. be the one to put in a second raise, preferably one that puts them to a decision (pot size or bigger)...lately I've just been letting everybody dictate the action, they raise preflop, I call, they continuation bet, I raise. It doesn't matter what I have, 67% of the time they miss the flop. My second option is to call the continuation bet, see what the turn action is, and act accordingly. I find most people don't fire another bullet if they miss. Just make sure they aren't initiating the slow down play against you. (This is a move better players make with a monster...bet flop, check turn, huge raise on river)

so i forget about raising pre-flop (except for pocket aces or kings or something) i re-raise any raise after the flop?

[beautifulrock]

I have a saying, if it looks and smells like bullshit, it probably is. The most popular "move" in the game is to raise preflop and continuation bet no matter what hits. Take advantage of this. Don't do it every time, rather pick and choose your spots wisely. Oh, and make sure the person you are raising has the ability to fold. If you try this on a calling station with nothing, generally you're just bluffing your money away.

[cap]

ok thanks for your input man! sadly most people i regularly play with are damned calling stations!!

no im not on any of those sites, i dont play online.

[cap]

yo b-rock i got another question...

i had a silly idea today. the past week i went to the casino 3 times. all with the same plan. buying in 100€, doubling it and walking away. well it worked 2 times and the 3rd time i made 500 € after buying in twice (with profit money).

well doubling up doesnt seem that hard of a task. its a fairly small amount of cash but it adds up if you do it regularly. so what if (and this is just thinking/fantasising out loud) i did this every day (or attempted to at least) 5 times a week makes 2000 € a month.

am i...

A. Bullshitting myself, its impossible...

B. thinking of a great plan (to try for a while at least...)

I would like to add that both times i doubled up i didnt even play for an hour and didnt get phenomenal hands either...

i wonder what you think of this "plan". im actually considering this...

even if you fail once a week its highly profitable!!

[beautifulrock]

Well, you ARE gonna fail more than once a week, it's inevitable. However, I've seen many people utilize this system and have it work. I don't do it because A.) I have the time and B.) I'm at my most successful when I have a huge stack and the luxury to make any play I want.

If you have the patience to try and pull this off, try it, but I can predict it will all end the day you run really badly and hit nothing for hours, also an inevitability.

[cap]

yeah i think im gonna try it. i know winning every time is impossible but im gonna try it and see how far it gets me!

[beautifulrock]

you guys gotta see this

I heard about "The Big Game" a new tv show where they give some schmuck 100 grand to play against the best poker players in the world, and they get to keep whatever profits they make. It makes for an interesting dynamic especially late in the game. So i was watching all these episodes when I came across a hand so crazy, i had to share...percentage-wise, this is the worst bad beat I've ever seen...

http://thebiggame.pokerstars.net/episodes/s1/w1/

go to week 1, episode 3 and start 11 minutes in.


Poor Phil