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View Poll Results: Raekwon's best solo effort aside from OB4CL
Immobilarity 13 18.84%
The Lex Diamond Story 3 4.35%
OB4CLII 53 76.81%
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:43 AM   #31
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I can't wait to hear what you have to say next. What? The drums aren't hard enough on New Wu? Pyrex Vision is too long? J Dilla wasn't a good producer?
Raekwon, can't rhyme or flow.

I don't know how wu fans can actually find listening to someone 'not rhyme' off beat enjoyable...

The beats on CL2 are fine, where have i said any different?

The featured mc's are generally pretty good also.

The singers are shitty, but that's a given.

Rae is the problem.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:45 AM   #32
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Old 01-03-2011, 06:24 AM   #34
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Raekwon, can't rhyme or flow.

I don't know how wu fans can actually find listening to someone 'not rhyme' off beat enjoyable...

The beats on CL2 are fine, where have i said any different?

The featured mc's are generally pretty good also.

The singers are shitty, but that's a given.

Rae is the problem.
If you want every line to rhyme, perhaps you should just read doctor Seuss and shut the fuck up.

Not every emcee chooses to be technically proficient in the rhyming area.

If you don't believe me, go to the temple of the darts section and read any one of Sheepish lord of Chaos' ten thousand threads. You'd be lucky to find two lines that rhyme in the whole thing.

All emcees in the Clan are unique in their own ways, and in the past I would have agreed with you that Rae may not be the best emcee or even close, and to be honest, he still isn't, but that doesn't mean he didn't come correct on Cuban Linx 2 or lately for that matter.

I don't know what your problem is with CL2, and quite honestly, I don't care. Hip hop, amongst many other things, is not your forte.

I'm just worried that somebody's gonna come along and actually take your ranting seriously, when you listened to the album all of what, two times?
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Old 01-03-2011, 06:33 AM   #35
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LOL How did I know some clown would vote for Lex Diamond
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Old 01-03-2011, 06:43 AM   #36
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I have to go with OB4CL2. For me it has pretty much become a personal classic. The album is really well put together imo, as well as it having ridiculous replay value.
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If you want every line to rhyme, perhaps you should just read doctor Seuss and shut the fuck up.

Not every emcee chooses to be technically proficient in the rhyming area.

If you don't believe me, go to the temple of the darts section and read any one of Sheepish lord of Chaos' ten thousand threads. You'd be lucky to find two lines that rhyme in the whole thing.

All emcees in the Clan are unique in their own ways, and in the past I would have agreed with you that Rae may not be the best emcee or even close, and to be honest, he still isn't, but that doesn't mean he didn't come correct on Cuban Linx 2 or lately for that matter.

I don't know what your problem is with CL2, and quite honestly, I don't care. Hip hop, amongst many other things, is not your forte.

I'm just worried that somebody's gonna come along and actually take your ranting seriously, when you listened to the album all of what, two times?
Brock, i already suggested Rae go back and read Suess in the other thread!

We're on the same wavelength here.

You do care what my problem is with CL2, you care a lot because you wrote thousands of words on here about it. And you value my opinion, a lot.

If you want (because i know you do care) i can post a screen shot of how many times i've listen to the original and CL2.

About 10 times each this year, which for you fan boys probably isn't a lot, but i do have other shit to listen to.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:28 AM   #38
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Why are you listening to something you don't like 10 times a year after it came out? Are you into sado-massochism? I dunno, but after all your ranting, that sounded a bit suspicious to me.

Oh, and please don't post a screenshot unless you are jerking off while listening to Cuban Linx 2 with a stick of beef jerky up your ass, in which case, you won't need a screenshot, just use your cellphone and snap. If you need help doing this, call Ironman. It's been a pleasure, Master Bateman.
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:09 AM   #39
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i went with CL II, and Immobilarity has alot of hot tracks, rae was at his pinnacle rhyming, but too many good joints on CL II, Ik rae aint the same lyricist as on immob.....but the beats and his slang is still there....just a slight loss in energy from rae....tracks like Ason Jones, broken safety, have mercy, 10 bricks, flying daggers, sonnys missing, cold outside, black mozart, new wu, kiss the ring....are all straight bangers.....only problem with CL II is it seemed a little 2 long.....very good album tho....and IMO his 2nd best as a COMPLETE ALBUM
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Price almighty, these result are an embarrassment for this forum, and reflect where most fans are at these days.

Listen to Yae Yo, Casablanca, 100 Rounds, Real Life, Live from NY, My Favorite Dred, Friday, The Table or Sneakers.... and go ahead and try and pretend that anything off CL2 even touches those tracks.

Rae dominates Immobiliarity instead of bumbling like a semi-senile senior citizen.



Come on, you have to be joking even comparing a track like this to anything off CL2.

"God had blood on his sweat pants, the way the tek dance on a nigga face, son ain't have a chance".

CL2? Give me a fucking break.
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Old 01-03-2011, 02:42 PM   #42
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I agree that Rae is the wrong emcee for that Surgical Gloves beat. Actually, he would've murdered that in the Immobilarity era.

But CL2 do have some really nice songs, and some of Rae's famous lyricism strike here too. But he was a better emcee on Immobilarity, we can all agree about that. Just that, the end of that album kinda sucks.
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so who's using batemen's account? TSA or lace?
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Y'all forgot about this.


Actually I never realized that album dropped. But like Ghostface's 718 Theodore clique album, this is Rae's Ice Water's clique album and not a solo effort. But how's Rae's flow on that album btw? I mean, look at him on the track from the Black and White soundtrack "Wake Up", he flowed over that nice beat. On It's Not A Game, he was ill. Even on Lex Diamond Story, he flowed and production was good for most part of the album. Immobilarity was on some other shit, but I can tolerate it. But on OB4CLII, I dunno, I couldn't really digest any of the tracks on there, minus Catalina (and that was the only single I purchased from iTunes). I downloaded it and gave it a good listen and wasn't feeling it much. Even a good friend of mine, who is a Wu fan regretted even buying that album.

But anyways, I'm looking forward to hearing more of Raekwon from his upcoming album. That single that he just released was on some '93 - '97 shit. It be interesting to see how that album flows.
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bateman is a faggot, I've realized. don't take anything he says seriously
Him and a few other members of this forum are gimmick posters. They've created a character that they use when they post about anything.
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