Question for Mr. SUnny Winters

[LORD NOSE]

you are not getting my point


everyone can be called out on something

and we need to stop turning up our noses at people who were born into this shit

instead of building on the beautiful ideas he has on Nation building, you wanna point out the splint in his eye

we focus on the bad part - that's one of the main reasons why as a collective we have nothing of substance


we can sit here and complain about each others flaws and shortcomings - we'd be here all year doing that


still...i haven't seen any booty videos with him talking about "yeah girl shake that ass"

i have seen a couple of his videos of him speaking on the subject

and how black women are being used as hoes -


he has so many videos of him speaking about nation building

while scrolling through his myriad of videos, not once did i see the video that you was talking about -


smh

we gotta get off this "ahw nigga you ain't shit" mentality - it's counter productive

the stuff he's saying about nation building is so strong that even if i was to see the video that you are saying you saw, i'd see it as a steppin stone that he is using in his ministry - i would not automatically call him suspect

[knowcheeze]

PEACE!!!!!

"you are not getting my point "

eye get your point Brother Winters!!!!!!

"everyone can be called out on something "

well...if one is ax'ing for donations in that manner
(on sum eye am a Guru type shit) they had better
make damn sure that they cannot be called out
on ANYTHING

eye mean personally...eye could be "called out"
on sum sing but its nothing nearly as bad
as contributing to having our beloved women of the planet
earth on youtube acting like a fuckin savage

and one day very soon eye will reach a point where eye
cannot be called out on anything and om
very close to that Goal...

"and we need to stop turning up our noses at people who were born into this shit "

well om not turning up my nose at him

you never heard mah shelf say anything about
"king" noble before and after this thread you
will more than likely never hear me say/type
anything about him

his name came up and eye commented on him

"instead of building on the beautiful ideas he has on Nation building, you wanna point out the splint in his eye "

eye just don't like cee-ing mah beloved earthly queens
being displayed like that by someone who is
ASKING FOR DONATIONS.....lol

"we focus on the bad part - that's one of the main reasons why as a collective we have nothing of substance "

or eye could say we let people get away with
savage shit in the name of nation building

"we can sit here and complain about each others flaws and shortcomings - we'd be here all year doing that"

well...me personally om not presenting mahshelf
as a guru or someone who should be studied
and om not asking for donations

eye pretty much play the villian role with love

"still...i haven't seen any booty videos with him talking about "yeah girl shake that ass""

well...om too pressed for internet time
as you know to even search for it

since thats your dude why don't you ask him about it?

"i have seen a couple of his videos of him speaking on the subject

and how black women are being used as hoes -


he has so many videos of him speaking about nation building

while scrolling through his myriad of videos, not once did i see the video that you was talking about - "

the one eye am talking about he must have taken down

smart move burger king noble

heres another one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QSnS22VsX0

but thats some G rated shit compared to the other one
eye speak of

"smh

we gotta get off this "ahw nigga you ain't shit" mentality - it's counter productive "

eye think its way more counter productive to have
our earthly queens acting like a god dayum
fool on youtube

eye don't give a fuck who it is....eye will call
anybody out


"the stuff he's saying about nation building is so strong that even if i was to see the video that you are saying you saw, i'd see it as a steppin stone that he is using in his ministry - i would not automatically call him suspect"

well...eye would....haha

but owl drop it for now..but in closing
heres one of the responses from way back
when eye posted that savage "king" noble video

"something doesn't feel right about that first link by noble. it actually sounds like he's trying to convince himself of what he's teaching.

now, i understand what he's saying about uniting the body and mind but i'm curious as to why he didn't select a clip of dr. sunyatta amen with the moor hips belly dancing troupe? http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=47415994

i mention them because dr. sunyatta teaches about the benefits of belly dancing on overall health which includes restoring the health of the reproductive system. "

basically the Dr. Sunyatta clip was tastefull

and Noble was posting up porno videos
and doing background vocals on them

PEACE!!!!

[LORD NOSE]

i hear you and i can point from where you are pointing

but i come from other places also

first off - those are not earthly queens - they are what white corporate america made them
they are bitches and hoes - understand this - as black men if we don't get something of our own, those bitches will stay bitches, shakin ass,selling pussy, and robbin tricks for rent and food money -

this is the condition that black men have their women in because black men are too soft to secure something on this earth for themselves where we can make earthly queens instead being destroyed by bitches - i posted a video of him building on Nation Building and you went to go watch the bitches shake their ass and turned the discussion into that - that is suspect - understand this - those old negro holier than thou attitudes is preventing us from uniting in the true sense - we are all filthy in america - all of us - donations ?

i only heard the word come out of his mouth once - and he wasn't asking for donations


if you are cleaner and more righteous than us, do what Noble did and bring us strong truth that'll get us desiring and building a better future for us - calling him names because you saw a booty video on his page that you say he must have taken down is immature

[knowcheeze]

"i hear you and i can point from where you are pointing"

excellent

"but i come from other places also

first off - those are not earthly queens - they are what white corporate america made them
they are bitches and hoes - understand this - as black men if we don't get something of our own, those bitches will stay bitches, shakin ass,selling pussy, and robbin tricks for rent and food money - "

ceen

this is the condition that black men have their women in because black men are too soft to secure something on this earth for themselves where we can make earthly queens instead being destroyed by bitches - i posted a video of him building on Nation Building and you went to go watch the bitches shake their ass and turned the discussion into that - that is suspect - understand this - those old negro holier than thou attitudes is preventing us from uniting in the true sense - we are all filthy in america - all of us - donations ?

i only heard the word come out of his mouth once - and he wasn't asking for donations


if you are cleaner and more righteous than us, do what Noble did and bring us strong truth that'll get us desiring and building a better future for us - calling him names because you saw a booty video on his page that you say he must have taken down is immature"

naw....well this is where we gotta agree to disagree

eye think its more immature and more pussy
to not point out some suspect shit a self
professed Guru who is asking for donations does just because
the dude is entertaining or even on point
in certain instances

and yes...eye just pointed it out and we been going
back and forth....the only reason om still talking
about Noble is cuz you keep on replying...eye was just
simply pointing sumthing out

and no....eye don't have a holier than thou attitude

but if eye was asking for donations and on
youtube frontin like om some one who should
be teaching people.....yes

eye would expect people to expose any
suspect behavior on mah part

om just saying play your fuckin role

or else prepare to be judged

PEACE!!!!!

[LORD NOSE]

overstood


my point in all i was saying is that everyone is saying the same thing about everyone


whether they publicly speaking or not

whether they calling themselves master teachers or not

expect everyone to be dirty

if you look for filth, you'll find filth

the build was Nation Building and what must be done

the reasons why it needs to be built on, is because we are filthy

you can point out what whatever - you'll be pointing all day

but at the end of that day of pointing, what was accomplished by pointing

we can build on how filthy we are and the savage shit we do and list the consequences - that would be a good thread


our competitiveness on that level makes it difficult for us to play our role