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Old 12-22-2010, 05:20 PM   #46
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they are accusations - i don't know him personally



i've read some of his thoughts on Fard and The Minister


AND what do you think?


York said many things to rip people out of what they were in in order to give them what they needed - if he pointed out a flaw and widened it, then he was doing his job - i didn't like it at the time, but i see the significance of it now

it significance being?



if there is no truth in it then it's all a rip off

if there is truth in it, how can any one man claim it unless it was made up out of his imagination...and even then,if making it up out of ones imagination is possible, then there must be some form of truth in that thought for it to even manifest itself in ones mind


i agree

that's like saying that the west coast jacked Hip Hop from new york





many things were said about him - i know how it feels to have people who don't know me describe me to others



i enjoy his translations - he list everyone elses along with his

but what about his own interperation under the imam isa alias

he inspired allot of people in a positive way
look forward to your answers
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Old 12-22-2010, 06:55 PM   #47
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I think that they are his thoughts - and i can understand him


the significance of him inspiring people to really think about what it is they believe is a significant move toward awakening



his translations are good IMO
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:37 AM   #48
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what about the madam bravaksty connections and manly p hall

what about him taking the shamballa and plagarizing it
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:59 AM   #49
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what about the madam bravaksty connections and manly p hall

what about him taking the shamballa and plagarizing it


what about them ?

what about the effects of his works on the people

what are the effected people saying


people are going to have problems with you no matter what

people will accuse you of shit no matter what

and you will make mistakes that'll have some people throw all of your work away


people are people - instead of finding all of the shit that'll make you shake your head at him, study what he taught and use what you can to bring you and yours upward
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:14 AM   #50
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you have a point, sorry it it came across like im trying to diss him(im not)

i am intrigued though

specifically the claims of being indian around the allegations surface.


im trying to find more of the ansaru allah books.....no luck though

any help?
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:15 AM   #51
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and you still havent told me what books you own, lol
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:19 AM   #52
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i don't have any of my scrolls with me

or my tablets

i'm nomadic

i don't remember the titles to all the scrolls i've read and owned


go to brooklyn - in the train stations you might run into someone selling the scrolls
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Old 12-24-2010, 03:48 PM   #53
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this is an email bout the questions and allegations from the brother i told you about


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1. Q. have a question what you think about the accusation of him getting first crack at members wifes when he was within the Ansaru Allah Communit.

A. As i tried to answer this same question a couple of emails ago, it is hard for me to comment on the Master's personal life. Ant attempt at this by me would be a direct lie and misleading in every way. For years the Master teacher told us the we should stay out of people's bedrooms. I my self must inform you that I only focused on the esoteric information that he had, was and will continue to put into the public. my main focus was reading as many of his books that i could get my hands on. Sorry for not being able to help you with this question.

2. Q. also are you familiar with his thoughts on WD FARD and Sheikh Dawud
A. Yes, I am familiar with his teachings on Shaikh Daud and the teachings of the NIO under Elijah Muhammad. I believe he already addressed if not all of the questions that can be asked on this subject. Please read the book " Shaikh Daud vs WD Farad". This will help to answer all of the questions you may have about the subject at this time.

3. Q.His whole alien steez is a Sitchin and Raelin ripoff.
A. This is another attempt to not give credit where credit is due. The master teacher was teaching this information since 1967, when he came teaching nuwaubu "Right Knowledge". When he first started teaching this information, the people was not ready, so he started teaching religion, because that's what we wanted at the time. he taught us about the Annunaki, Neteru, and all the beings that we descended from, in an attempt to show us where we came from. Bear in mind, at that time in our history, there was in fact teachers from all over the world teaching exoteric and esoteric information, however he was the first person to show and prove that we (SO-called Afro Americans) had a connection to the stars. We cannot deny him that. Sure there are many teachers teaching this level of information, but we must acknowledge that it was Amunubi Roak Ptah who brought it to his own people. who else aid that so-called blacks were descendants of beings from the stars? Does it matter where the information came from? Sitchin focused on Sumeria, and Rale focuses on the same thing the master was teaching except he reaching out to white America. Don't believe me check it out foe yourself.

4. Q. He jacked the number 19 in the Qu'ran from Rashid Khalifa.
A. Seriously? If you would read some of the books that Imam Issa was putting forth in the 70's and 80's you would bear witness to the facts that only came from him. Once again, i cannot deny that there are other teachers out there, but I cannot deny that when I read his books, no one else is going into the language step by step to break down every tid bit of information such as he did. So to say he stole the number 19 from Rashid Kalifa, coincidentally which means successor (Khalifa) is a lie, because the number 19 is known through out the muslim world, however he was the only one to show that the prophecy related to him and the mission.


5. Q. He jacked the whole Native American connection with blacks in America from Noble Drew Ali (which he unsuccessfully tried using to get his child porn cases thrown out, in which his defense tried using that as an effort to show the court he was insane---and the judge didnt buy it.
A. The Master Teacher has show time and time again his connection by way of his mother being native American, how he is apart of the yamasee tribes. Read "Lets set the Record Straight".

6. Q. I have caught YORK in so many lies, its hard to believe anything he says anymore. YORK claims in his 1993 publication called "THE BOOK OF THE FIVE PERCENTERS" that he is the one who taught MALCOLM X how to make SALAT while in EGYPT. YORK would have been 16 years old. YET records show that YORK was in JAIL around that time York claims to be a be 33/720 Degree!!! Yet I have yet to find a Nuwaubian that can tell me what the 73rd Degree is. ( I don't even know the names of the Degrees after 33 ) Nuwaubians don't understand that when the 5% say they have 120 Degrees, its Symbol of 1/3 of Knowledge, Wisdom and Understanding. I has nothing to do with the actual number of Questions.
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A. Okay, ask whom ever told you this to show proof. being a student I never heard of this at all. There is no 73rd degree, who ever is making this claim is misleading you.5% percenters has always have problem with us, because of "THE BOOK OF THE FIVE PERCENTERS", in which the master told them to get of the streets and return back to being under the nation of Islam.Don't believe me check this out for yourself.

7.Q. York is somewhat fluent in Arabic to the point where he can hold a conversation. But he did not learn it in Sudan and Egypt. He learned it privately in Brooklyn.The Arabic Teachers who were there to teach the Children would also teach York. York didnt go to Sudann to go to school, York went there to travel and met the Mahdi Family because York was also a represenitive of SHEIK DAWOUD. The Conversations between the Mahdi Family and York were conducted in English. Sadiq Al Mahdi was educated in England and speaks Fluent English
A. Tell whom ever is making these claims to put forth the proof to support such allegations. Arabic was one of the languages that we were required to learn as muslims. As a matter of fact he would bring in teachers from Sudan to teach classical Arabic in those days, so who ever made this up is misleading you.Concerning the Mahdi family, all you have to do is check out the many publications that he put forth showing his family tree, which has never been disputed by any in Sudan. Can they deny that?
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Old 12-24-2010, 08:04 PM   #54
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Let's set the Record Straight is a good book - allot of info on Him
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Old 12-26-2010, 12:45 PM   #55
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i don't have any of my scrolls with me

or my tablets

i'm nomadic

i don't remember the titles to all the scrolls i've read and owned


go to brooklyn - in the train stations you might run into someone selling the scrolls
same here


as far as books i have:

what and where is hell?
the holy quran part 3
the messenger is right and exact 1 & 2
muslim man
muslim woman
he's a disease
question and debates series #6 -(this is the books where he explains the word hajj comes from a hebrew word and answers the quesron as ti why he went by so many names)
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:02 PM   #56
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there are sooo many scrolls yo

"Your Potential" is also a good scroll
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Old 12-26-2010, 03:53 PM   #57
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+ Rep ,going to have to check that out

i can hardly find anything under his imam isa alias online
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