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Old 08-31-2012, 08:14 PM   #46
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to me, gravity,light,sound,electricity is all physical -

these "things" mentioned can move you, cut you, change you, etc...


gravity to me is just the force of sound pushing you down -

the spinning motion of the earth holding you down
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:15 PM   #47
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Have you ever touched those things? If not, then they are not physical.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:21 PM   #48
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there are allot of things that i have not touched - but are still in existence

if it exist, then it is indeed physical

we don't touch the wind - the winds touch us

we don't touch the sun, the sun touches us

gravity is a force that pins us in place - it exist - the word gravity may be used to describe what is happening to us, but to make it plain, i'll use it as the name of a very physical situation
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:30 PM   #49
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There are tangible things (things that can be touched)
There are intangible things (things that cannot be touched)

If it exists, does not mean it is physical. Smh

The wind does not touch us, we SENSE it. Same with the heat of the sun.

You are sounding uneducated.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:40 PM   #50
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There are tangible things (things that can be touched)
There are intangible things (things that cannot be touched)

If it exists, does not mean it is physical. Smh

The wind does not touch us, we SENSE it. Same with the heat of the sun.

You are sounding uneducated.
that's because i am uneducated, untrained to speak of these things the way the world says we should speak on them

the way i see it, the sun does "touch" us - if it touches us too hard, we end up with sun burn - the way i see it, if it can burn you, it is very physical -

the wind can lift you up and throw you - so i see that as a very physical thing


if we are able to label it, and it effects us in any way, then it exist - if it exist, then it is physical - i speak like this in order to make it plain and simple - and real.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:41 PM   #51
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adjective 1. capable of being touched; discernible by the touch; material or substantial.

2. real or actual, rather than imaginary or visionary: the tangible benefits of sunshine.


Doesn't the process of sensing the wind involve touch? Or are you saying the wind is imaginary or visionary?
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:42 PM   #52
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the word gravity may be used to describe what is happening to us, but to make it plain, i'll use it as the name of a very physical situation

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this part doesn't make sense - i wrote it like that for a reason - reread the thread -
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tan·gi·ble

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adjective 1. capable of being touched; discernible by the touch; material or substantial.

2. real or actual, rather than imaginary or visionary: the tangible benefits of sunshine.


Doesn't the process of sensing the wind involve touch? Or are you saying the wind is imaginary or visionary?

It involves touch not literally, but metaphorically.

Not saying wind is imaginary at all.
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this part doesn't make sense - i wrote it like that for a reason - reread the thread -

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the way i see it, the sun does "touch" us - if it touches us too hard, we end up with sun burn - the way i see it, if it can burn you, it is very physical -

the wind can lift you up and throw you - so i see that as a very physical thing
You've personified those things. Figure of speech.


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if we are able to label it, and it effects us in any way, then it exist - if it exist, then it is physical - i speak like this in order to make it plain and simple - and real.
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It involves touch not literally, but metaphorically.

Not saying wind is imaginary at all.
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Touch is based on nerve receptors in the skin that send electrical messages through the central nervous system to the cerebral cortex in the brain, which interprets these electrical codes.

Nerve endings that lie in or just below the epidermis cells respond to various outside stimuli, which are categorized into four basic stimuli: pressure, pain, hot, and cold.

This is what happens when sensing the wind. Nothing metaphoric about it at all.
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ya, you're right.

when I wrote that I had in mind that sunny said the wind touches us . I was saying that the wind does not touch. humans touch.

humans sense the wind. the sensation of touch is with us (inside of us) not the wind.
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yes scientists and poets r too much on one side of the brain.

wind is a bunch of gas partiles travelling in 1 direction so the particles touch us. its not a force lol.

gravity however is a force that we cant touch but maybe in the future that will b disproved or possibly not.

and what exactly is 'unseen' i cant see sub atomic particles and they effect things i can see.
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wind is a bunch of gas partiles travelling in 1 direction so the particles touch us. its not a force lol.

i thought about this before i wrote what i wrote - but something has to be pushing those particles - there has to be some type of force behind it in order for it to move - i would just say that it is a force -

with speakers - loud speakers - there is usually a hole cut out in it - the louder the sound/music, the stronger the wind/air

sound is the source of the wind -

what is the difference between air and wind ?

and what is force ?
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