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Old 10-01-2012, 07:26 PM   #16
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kanye > most mainstream artists.

check out freshman adjustment 1 & 2, if you wanna hear his raw shit that didnt make it to college dropout and late registration. his joint with ODB is fire:

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:29 AM   #18
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I must admit the word genius is thrown around too freely these days. Kanye West is an interessting personality and an important figure for hip hop. But to be censidered a genius, you must at least come up with your own melodies instead of just sampling. RZAs beats contains samples as well but he makes the samples into melodies of his own.

I havn't really liked a lot of his music since his last solo album but you have to be a fool not to regocnize he pushes the boundaries of what you expect of a hip hop album. Musically MDTBF is one of the best projects the last 10 years. I just wish it beat for beat was more coherent.
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I havn't really liked a lot of his music since his last solo album but you have to be a fool not to regocnize he pushes the boundaries of what you expect of a hip hop album. Musically MDTBF is one of the best projects the last 10 years. I just wish it beat for beat was more coherent.
LOL

bink! made the best beat on that album

kangay needs writers

and mike dean co produced and mixed everything

yet kangay is the talent...

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second album kangay needed jon brion

jon brion got a huge pay day to come up with the simplest shit in his career and make a no talent faggot that knew how to jack drums and loop samples look good

rhymefest wrote kangays biggest hit

rolling stone magazine thinks kangay is a genius for sampling daft punk

i think it makes him a FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:59 AM   #20
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On topic though Angry! is killing me with this hahaha man speaks the truth.
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lol @ rolling stones calling kanye a genius for sampling daft punk

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I must admit the word genius is thrown around too freely these days. Kanye West is an interessting personality and an important figure for hip hop. But to be censidered a genius, you must at least come up with your own melodies instead of just sampling. RZAs beats contains samples as well but he makes the samples into melodies of his own.

I havn't really liked a lot of his music since his last solo album but you have to be a fool not to regocnize he pushes the boundaries of what you expect of a hip hop album. Musically MDTBF is one of the best projects the last 10 years. I just wish it beat for beat was more coherent.
I find MBDTF to be extremely overrated. Kanye had one good album imo and that's College Dropout. Some find his second album to be good as well but personally I disagree. It wasn't his raps but he had beats on that album that were very good like All Falls Down. Nowadays it's just random trash with no skill at all. Not only were the guestappearances horrible, the beats on Dark Twisted are just bad. He turned down Madlib beats but can you blame him when the only thing on his mind is money.

Kanye is not a genius. A genius doesn't copy paste drums from a legend Pete Rock for his own track and makes it sound horrible.
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yes, the huge amount of praise his last album received was sickening.
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Yo who got that new god flow with the added ghost verse?
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RZA has been using musicians/instruments ever since 'Marvel', 'Soul Controller' and 'Reunited', Ain't nothing wrong with that.


When it comes to sample-flipping, Kanye's talent can't be disputed. But he's been messing around with synthetic sounds for a while. I swear, that generic quazi-808 snare and weird bass lines are all a mainstream producer could want. Reminds me of those claps that were heavily used by Dre and Storch around '03-'06. It's a trend of some sort. Overproducing is his middle name, as mentioned here before.





Angry is right about Kanye being overshadowed by ROC in-house producers though.
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