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Old 10-18-2012, 05:04 PM   #76
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yes i knew that but i meant how do you know those two jacubs are the same jacob. eg abraham lincoln isnt the same as abraham in the bible.

u cant just assume theyre the same person.
because of those bible verses in genesis I listed detailing the events of the yacub story.

gen 30:37

now jacob took for himself rods of green poplar and of the almond and chestnut trees, peeled white strips in them, and exposed the white which was in the rods.

gen 30:40

then jacob seperated the lambs, and made the flocks face toward the streaked and all the brown in the flock of laban; but he put his own flocks by themselves and did put them with laban's flock.

one of our lessons goes like this:

tell us what and how the devil is made?

the devil is made from the original people by grafting and separating the germs. in the black man's body there exist 2 germs, a black germ and a brown germ. yacub with his law on birth control separated the brown germ from the black germ and grafted it into white by destroying the black germ. After following this process for 600 years, the germ became white and was no more original. also by thinning the original blood, the germ became weak and wicked and was no more the same. thus this is how yacub made the devil.
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:02 AM   #77
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Further proving yacub is real. I'll show proof from the bible

In the holy books, Yacub, Jacob, Israel, and John of patmos are all the same.
How is John of Patmos the same as Jacob/Israel?

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Exodus 1:16 shows the nurse's duty of killing all the black babies and saving the brown babies
In what translation does it say this?



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Now Gen 25:23 says

And the lord said to her:

Two nations are in your womb, two peoples shall be separated from your body one people shall be stronger than the other, and the older shall serve the younger."

In school, one learns the black gene is genetically dominant, and the white gene is recessive. It's also well accepted that black people are the original people of the planet(oldest), yet we are on the bottom to the young white "race"(white supremacy).
The older if read here in the proper context is Esau not Jacob...he's older by being the first of the two paternal twins born. The descendents of Esau/the Edomites served Jacob - the Black man (the stronger) - many times in history in the ancient world.

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Now Jacob had a brother, whose name was Esau. Esau was supposed to be given the birthright by Isaac, however Jacob(Yacub) STOLE it from Esau. That's a devilish thing to do.

Jacob actually took what was his - as was previously prophesied - read Genesis 25:23 again.

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That shit is being manifested right in front of eyes in a couple ways. The 1st way is the fact that the original people were suppose to receive that birthright(which was to have control over the planet)not the european.

The black man did indeed recieve the birthright. It has manifested in times past and will again in the future.

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Later, Jacob wrestles with god and gets his name changed to Israel. Israel is a supplanter(one who takes something from it's rightful owner).

The name Israel means Prince of God. YasharAhla/Yisrael/Israel= Ya/Is = He Shar/Ra =Prince Ahla/El = Power (Allah/God)

Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.


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These fake jews in Israel today are Yacub's children in the flesh.

Why do you call them fake but also the descendents of the Biblical Jacob?

More Study is needed.


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Old 10-19-2012, 10:59 AM   #78
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Read message to the blackman, making of the whiteman, theology of time and read some more on the NOI and the nation of gods & earths. Again like the original question of the thread. These teachings/lessons are all not meant to be taken 100% literal. Like the bible and quran each person who studies these lessons can get an understanding from it and apply it to their life, and actually see it before their eyes. For example yacub. a lot of people take that story on face value thinking it's REAL history in the sense that there was a big headed black guy on pelan, when in reality a black man who's doing devil things(lie cheat steal kill) is who? Yacub!

check this out, maybe you'll get a better understanding hearing it from a god in person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rtBo...=results_video
but if things cant be taken 100% literal they cant be considered proof. u cant try and build up evidence based on symbolism and metaphor.

i thought according to u that a devil wasnt how evil somebody is, instead a devil is something that has changed from the original and that u call this original thing "god".
u even said this
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When we say the white man is the devil it's because he is. Devil doesn't necessarily mean evil. It just the opposite of god. What may be good for black people, may not be good for white people, and what may be good for white people may not be good for black people. So there really is no such thing as good and bad. We all just try to do what's in the best interest of people.
so why exctly are lieing and cheating devil things. they look more like evil things and not necessarily devil things.

yet if u say something as general as "a black man who's doing devil things(lie cheat steal kill) is who? Yacub!" then u can say every black person is yacub cuz every black man has lied at some point in his life.
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:17 PM   #79
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because of those bible verses in genesis I listed detailing the events of the yacub story.

gen 30:37

now jacob took for himself rods of green poplar and of the almond and chestnut trees, peeled white strips in them, and exposed the white which was in the rods.

gen 30:40

then jacob seperated the lambs, and made the flocks face toward the streaked and all the brown in the flock of laban; but he put his own flocks by themselves and did put them with laban's flock.

one of our lessons goes like this:

tell us what and how the devil is made?

the devil is made from the original people by grafting and separating the germs. in the black man's body there exist 2 germs, a black germ and a brown germ. yacub with his law on birth control separated the brown germ from the black germ and grafted it into white by destroying the black germ. After following this process for 600 years, the germ became white and was no more original. also by thinning the original blood, the germ became weak and wicked and was no more the same. thus this is how yacub made the devil.
the only common thing between yacub and jacob is that they both have a knowledge on animal breeding.
but theres key differences. yakub used humans, jacob used goats, yakub wanted to create white people, jacob wanted to create speckled and brown goats. he actually rejected white goats as well
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33 And my honesty will testify for me in the future, whenever you check on the wages you have paid me. Any goat in my possession that is not speckled or spotted, or any lamb that is not dark-colored, will be considered stolen.
also yakub created white people through a eugenics program of making lighter skinned people mate with eachother.

jacob used a totally different method in which he made goats look at rods which were striped white and black and also by looking at black and white goats from labans herd.

totally different methods. jacobs doesnt involve any splitting of germs.

also yakub seems to want weaker people. u said he thineed the blood to do this. jacob wanted the opposite effect. he wanted his speckled flock 2 b stronger.

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41 Whenever the stronger females were in heat, Jacob would place the branches in the troughs in front of the animals so they would mate near the branches, 42 but if the animals were weak, he would not place them there. So the weak animals went to Laban and the strong ones to Jacob. 43 In this way the man grew exceedingly prosperous and came to own large flocks, and female and male servants, and camels and donkeys
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Well it's becoming to the point where I'm just repeating myself, and I don't want to lose any more time so Im going to end with this.

basic math of life

1. knowledge
2. wisdom
3. understanding

In order to understand something you must know the said subject, and in order to get a proper understanding you have to put it to use(wisdom)

So the 1st step for everyone here who has questions is to read those books. Message to the blackman has a whole chapter for the devil and yacub.

The next step would be to go over everything I've said, and watch some videos of the NOI and the gods and how they use the lessons. Both have their own way of using them.

Once you do those you will get an understanding. Either you'll understand and want to learn more, don't understand and reject it, or understand it and reject it, which is ok with me. If you're a christian, continue being christian, if you are a muslim, keep being that. Sound travels at 1,120 ft per sec, light travels at the rate of 186,000 miles per sec, so since neither is being used to teach, it's not surprising nobody is receiving the light.

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Old 10-20-2012, 11:38 PM   #82
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How is John of Patmos the same as Jacob/Israel?



In what translation does it say this?





The older if read here in the proper context is Esau not Jacob...he's older by being the first of the two paternal twins born. The descendents of Esau/the Edomites served Jacob - the Black man (the stronger) - many times in history in the ancient world.




Jacob actually took what was his - as was previously prophesied - read Genesis 25:23 again.




The black man did indeed recieve the birthright. It has manifested in times past and will again in the future.




The name Israel means Prince of God. YasharAhla/Yisrael/Israel= Ya/Is = He Shar/Ra =Prince Ahla/El = Power (Allah/God)

Genesis 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.





Why do you call them fake but also the descendents of the Biblical Jacob?

More Study is needed.


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Old 10-21-2012, 11:03 AM   #83
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So Kephrem....did God really instruct Moses to slaughter 200,000 men women and children....or is that Torah verses that have been tampered with????

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So Kephrem....did God really instruct Moses to slaughter 200,000 men women and children....or is that Torah verses that have been tampered with????

PEACE!!!!!!

What I do know is the reasoning for the destruction is written about in the so-called lost books of the Bible:


3 For it was thy will to destroy by the hands of our fathers both those old inhabitants of thy holy land,

4 Whom thou hatedst for doing most odious works of witchcrafts, and wicked sacrifices;

5 And also those merciless murderers of children, and devourers of man's flesh, and the feasts of blood,

6 With their priests out of the midst of their idolatrous crew, and the parents, that killed with their own hands souls destitute of help:

7 That the land, which thou esteemedst above all other, might receive a worthy colony of God's children.

Apocrypha: Wisdom Chapter 12

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/apo/wis012.htm
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:38 AM   #85
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""Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." "


pardon shelf if om mistaken but aren't the above and below contradictory?


"And also those merciless murderers of children, and devourers of man's flesh, and the feasts of blood,"


cuz the above talks about the merciless killing of children


but the below ceem's to indicate that it was a savage culture they was conquering and they was trying to liberate the children

whut chu think k?
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