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Old 11-04-2012, 11:54 PM   #61
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8 Diagrams >>>> Iron Flag imo
Of course. 8 Diagrams is even better than The W.

Click Click is the shit though.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:08 AM   #62
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Ofcourse, most of the people hate it because Rae and Ghost hated it before it even came out. It has filler, so what, it has great tracks. Life Changes by the way I thought had a very good beat but it was kind of irritating that RZA had the sample playing after every verse. If he did it just 3 times or something it would have been a better track.
my point is Rae and Ghost may not have even been talking about 8D as we know it but talking about the "Sunday Morning" album that Rza wanted to make initially.
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Old 11-05-2012, 03:53 AM   #63
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Of course. 8 Diagrams is even better than The W.

Click Click is the shit though.
If it was a year ago I would agree and I still think some things about 8 Diagrams are better than The W. The best tracks on The W are better than the best tracks on 8 Diagrams tho. I'd say they're about even; The W is probably a little bit better.
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Old 11-05-2012, 06:59 AM   #64
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8 Diagrams is mixtape material at best. Don't really feels like a group effort....comparing to previous albums and other groups, 8 Diagrams isn't good to anybody but a few die hard wu fans.

Big Doe Rehab >>>>>
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:39 AM   #65
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8 Diagrams is mixtape material at best. Don't really feels like a group effort....comparing to previous albums and other groups, 8 Diagrams isn't good to anybody but a few die hard wu fans.

Big Doe Rehab >>>>>
Nothing on Big Doe Rehab beats the Heart Gently Weeps or even Sunlight.

Big Doe was a good album..Slow Down and Yolanda's House are sick! Apart from Rae's verse on Yolanda's house....wack...his delivery is just wack now...i don't know what happened to Rae's delivery..it's horrible. Sometimes he can get away with it..but most of the time it's boring.

Go back to Bulletproof Wallets and listen to his verse on "never the same again" and you'll see what Rae used to be capable of..in terms of flow and delivery.

Now it seems like he's just rapping in one long line.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:04 AM   #66
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Nothing on Big Doe Rehab beats the Heart Gently Weeps or even Sunlight.

Big Doe was a good album..Slow Down and Yolanda's House are sick! Apart from Rae's verse on Yolanda's house....wack...his delivery is just wack now...i don't know what happened to Rae's delivery..it's horrible. Sometimes he can get away with it..but most of the time it's boring.

Go back to Bulletproof Wallets and listen to his verse on "never the same again" and you'll see what Rae used to be capable of..in terms of flow and delivery.

Now it seems like he's just rapping in one long line.
You see, the way people are complaining about GZA, I've been feeling about Rae for years. At least GZA usually has something clever to say. To me, Rae doesn't really contribute anything. Just peep his verse off The Gently Weeps. Just boring. He seems to do better on his own albums, songs like "The Scroll" are proof of that.
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"8 Diagrams is mixtape material at best. Don't really feels like a group effort....comparing to previous albums and other groups, 8 Diagrams isn't good to anybody but a few die hard wu fans."

Iron Flag is more comparable to mixtape material. That album hardly feels like a group effort & is more of a collection of random Wu songs.
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"8 Diagrams is mixtape material at best. Don't really feels like a group effort....comparing to previous albums and other groups, 8 Diagrams isn't good to anybody but a few die hard wu fans."

Iron Flag is more comparable to mixtape material. That album hardly feels like a group effort & is more of a collection of random Wu songs.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:14 PM   #69
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You see, the way people are complaining about GZA, I've been feeling about Rae for years. At least GZA usually has something clever to say. To me, Rae doesn't really contribute anything. Just peep his verse off The Gently Weeps. Just boring. He seems to do better on his own albums, songs like "The Scroll" are proof of that.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:59 PM   #71
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:16 PM   #72
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Whoever said 8D is better than The W is outta their fucking minds haha.
I still believe the new album is gonna be better than 8D hopefully.
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:25 PM   #73
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What about Wolves, Rushing Elephants and Unpredictable?

You didn't like those?
Wolves was ok but I liked the original "disco" type version that was never released....it was more uptempo.

Unpredictable was ok, but I just know Wu is capable of so much more...

Tracks like Rushing Elephants and Unpredictable are OK by Wu standards, but when you compare them to previous bangers like Heaterz, Reunited, or Itz Yourz, they just don't stack up.....
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:30 PM   #74
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What RZA and the Wu need to do (which probably won't happen) is to get all the generals in the studio at the same time, and bang out some ill tracks....get focused, feed off each others energy....become competitive again....thats what they used to do, is see who could 1-up eachother with the rhymes on each track. Now their mentality is just like "Fuck it, let me just spit this average 16 and get the F outta here...."

No emailed verses, no phoned in verses or any bullshit like that....

Get the Wu Elements producers in there....4th and True Master.....get Bronze....have like 15 dudes in the studio at the same time, just wildin out givin ideas...

Not just one some "oh, only Ghost and Rae are on this track, so the other 7 generals are nowhere to be found.....".....nahhhh.....even if you ain't on the track, get your ass in the studio and give input and ideas.....

WTF does dudes like U-God, GZA, and Deck gotta do anyway? Its not like their grindin out new music on the daily......
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What RZA and the Wu need to do (which probably won't happen) is to get all the generals in the studio at the same time, and bang out some ill tracks....get focused, feed off each others energy....become competitive again....thats what they used to do, is see who could 1-up eachother with the rhymes on each track. Now their mentality is just like "Fuck it, let me just spit this average 16 and get the F outta here...."

No emailed verses, no phoned in verses or any bullshit like that....

Get the Wu Elements producers in there....4th and True Master.....get Bronze....have like 15 dudes in the studio at the same time, just wildin out givin ideas...

Not just one some "oh, only Ghost and Rae are on this track, so the other 7 generals are nowhere to be found.....".....nahhhh.....even if you ain't on the track, get your ass in the studio and give input and ideas.....

WTF does dudes like U-God, GZA, and Deck gotta do anyway? Its not like their grindin out new music on the daily......
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